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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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On a lighter note, this is probably karma for ripping off Denver last year for their #1 so it was the Seahawks turn in the barrel with a new GM/Head coach taking over. So far seems the new tandem rates other teams assets higher than they regard the ones they have.

Come on Whitehurst!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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I don't have anything against Whitehurst. He has above average athleticism and a good arm, though accuracy is still unproven. But I agree with a comment earlier that it seems we are selling low and buying high with every move we make. It smacks of a desperate deal to get a starting QB. Those can be great if they pan out, but the FO better be right about this one. Their tenure will be defined by this.

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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Man, most of these moves look really suspect.

I really hope Carroll and Co. know what they're doing. I'm willing to give them a shot, see how this all looks on the field... But these moves are head scratchers.


Man when Snohomie starts to question moves I know we are in trouble....crap!

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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Does anyone sense that the pre-draft wheeling and dealing is done for the team? Neither do I.

Those picks we just exchanged with the Chargers could be back within a day or two if not sooner via other trades and transactions we are involved in...

By trading down from #6 alone we could load up with a few real nice picks...

my two cents worth...


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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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40 to 60 AND a third rounder next year?!?!

What... the... hell...

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could someone help me understand how a third next year is considered like trading a 4th, or however you say it?


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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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He has amazing physical attributes and is a great fit for the system Jeremy Bates runs. I think this could end up being a very good move.

Giving the keys to the franchise to somebody based on physical attributes rather than he has done on the field is a big risk though. It'd be like using our first pick on Bruce Campbell or Taylor Mays.

I'm happy about this overall. About time we took some risks. I got tired of our only moves being for low-ceiling guys like Deion Branch.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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I am so confused. We are creating a team full of backups and paying heavily to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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Look at the bright side, we'll be getting tons of trade offers.

Of course, they'll all be expecting to hose us.

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could someone help me understand how a third next year is considered like trading a 4th, or however you say it?


From what I understand, a pick this year is worth the same pick, only a round earlier next year. For example, we traded a 2nd last year to Denver for their first this year.

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could someone help me understand how a third next year is considered like trading a 4th, or however you say it?


If you cant use it now, its considered devalued.

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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The more I think about it, the more I think we've been utterly hosed.

Man, that's expensive as hell. Wow. Dropping from 40 to 60 seems huge if we were going to wait for an OT or a safety.

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Don't see why we're going to have to wait for an OT. We've still got the 6 and 14, and we're damn sure not spending them on a QB. And as McKinja pointed out, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see us move back in the 1st round to pick up extra picks for the continuing rebuilding process.

The contract itself makes sense to me. They're going to give him the reins, no doubt, but they're not going to give him a big, long-term deal until he proves them right on whether he can be a solid starter. Once he does (IF he does), then the big contract will follow.

The only part that bugs me is the pick value we gave up. I think we could have gotten by with just moving back in the 2nd. Then again, if Carroll and Schneider are right and this guy can be our long-term solution at QB, then the price will be justified.

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Okay, so maybe that pass rush is still an issue. Lather, rinse, repeat.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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Mass hysteria, dogs and cats living together, real old testament stuff,,,,,, :roll:

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My buddy just called me and said that Brock Huard is just going off about this deal.....

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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I am so confused. We are creating a team full of backups and paying heavily to do it.


Considering we started with a team of backups, I think we're doing alright. We've added depth to this point. Whitehurst, as a backup, is as good or better than Wallace in the same spot. I just think we gave too much away with this.

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That price tag sure stings, but if he turns out to be a quality starter for us, then it will be worth it. I guess you have to take a leap of faith at some point, and I think we just took ours. At least we still have 3 picks in the top 60.

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My buddy just called me and said that Brock Huard is just going off about this deal.....


Probably because Brock was holding out hope that the Hawks would sign him back as their #3 behind Teel.

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gonzhawk wrote:
could someone help me understand how a third next year is considered like trading a 4th, or however you say it?


Well for one, that coach might not be there next year so a 3rd round pick next year isn't as valuable as the 3rd round pick this year, because by trading away pics this year, it makes it harder to succeed as a coach this year, thus putting his job in jeopardy.

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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could someone help me understand how a third next year is considered like trading a 4th, or however you say it?


It's just a weird NFL thing. Apparently, everyone is Al Davis and expects their supply of human blood to run out before the next draft, so they're fine trading next year's first for this year's second, or this year's third for next year's 2nd, etc.

It doesn't really make sense to me, but that's how the league seems to work. Weird, huh?

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My buddy just called me and said that Brock Huard is just going off about this deal.....


He thinks it's good or bad?

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