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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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Man, most of these moves look really suspect.

I really hope Carroll and Co. know what they're doing. I'm willing to give them a shot, see how this all looks on the field... But these moves are head scratchers.

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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Agreed with everyone, way too much compensation, what were they thinking.


They were probably thinking that Hass sucks, and Whitehurst has the ability to be a starter. I hope they're right, at least about Whitehurst.


Fair enough. I guess we'll find out if he has the ability to be a starter or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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Un-proven and hes not that young... I don't get it.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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With a 2 year deal they don't think he is the future. They are taking a flyer out on him, but they aren't committing to him. They paid to much to get him. Starting to wonder if these guys know what they are doing. At this rate we will probably get trade our 6th and a pick next year for Marshall.


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The more I think about it, the more I think we've been utterly hosed.

Man, that's expensive as hell. Wow. Dropping from 40 to 60 seems huge if we were going to wait for an OT or a safety.

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The thing that is particularly strange with this is the report that we are signing him to a 2-year deal. If they think he is the future QB for the team, why would this only be a 2-year deal?


That's the thing. We've given up high draft picks for only 2 years of a guy who won't even start the first year.


Maybe it's a two-year extension to the tender he signed...making it at least a three-year deal. If not and Matt ends up starting this year, they plan on handing it over to Charlie when he has one year left....This makes no sense whatsoever.


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It is only 2 years to make sure he is as good as they think and if he is he will get a new deal. I love the trade because they are gonna trade Rob Sims for another draft choice. :3-1:


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The more I think about it, the more I think we've been utterly hosed.

Man, that's expensive as hell. Wow. Dropping from 40 to 60 seems huge if we were going to wait for an OT or a safety.

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Or a DT.

Our offseason position is getting worse all the time.

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I wonder if this could be a sign that we're looking to trade back in the 1st since apparently we've given up on getting Bradford or Clausen with the 6?

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Well.. He certainly looks the part. 27 isn't that old for a QB. I have a feeling we might be pleasantly surprised here, folks. He's big AND mobile. Great combination.

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE.
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I dread what the Marshall deal will end up looking like.


Probably six draft picks, three of our starters, a key to the city, and someone's first born.


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Look at the bright side, we'll be getting tons of trade offers.

Of course, they'll all be expecting to hose us.

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I wonder if this could be a sign that we're looking to trade back in the 1st since apparently we've given up on getting Bradford or Clausen with the 6?


Hopefully that's the case.

Could you imagine the backlash if we traded a 1st rounder for Marshall at this point? :stirthepot:


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I wonder if this could be a sign that we're looking to trade back in the 1st since apparently we've given up on getting Bradford or Clausen with the 6?


...or they are pretty sure Bradford goes 1 (Rams) and Clausen goes 4 (Redskins).


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I'm hoping this 2 year part has some how been incorrectly released, makes absolutely no sense to give that up for a 2 year contract. Hell, his first starting year with us could be his contract year.


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The more I think about it, the more I think we've been utterly hosed.

Man, that's expensive as hell. Wow. Dropping from 40 to 60 seems huge if we were going to wait for an OT or a safety.

:vomit:


Or a DT.

Our offseason position is getting worse all the time.


The advantage to this is that it relieves a lot of the pressure to take a QB this year.

I have no clue if Whitehurst is the answer. But he's a talented QB who has been well coached for several years. At least there is a shot he is our answer. I would be a lot more comfortable passing on the QBs in this draft now...

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It is only 2 years to make sure he is as good as they think and if he is he will get a new deal. I love the trade because they are gonna trade Rob Sims for another draft choice. :3-1:


They'll trade him for a 6th, book it.


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What a rip off. I'm sorry, but it is. We get a 7th for Wallace next year, a guy who while not great has actual game experience and is a decent game manager. Then we trade this much for a guy he hasn't even played a down? This team is buying high and selling low.



Completely agree. My thoughts exactly!

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Here are my general thoughts:

1) If you compare with the Seneca trade, this deal sucks. Otherwise, it really isn't that bad...especially if he turns our to be starter-caliber.
2) The two year deal is to minimize risk. I mean, what if he doesn't pan out? It won't cost that much to let him go.
3) I'd take what we paid for Whitehurst (draft picks and $$$) over what we'd have to pay for Clausen. The FO clearly wasn't sold on Clausen, yet they understand they need to find a QB, so seeing if Whitehurst can pan out is a way of doing that while minimizing overall risk.
4) If Locker or some other true elite QB is available to us in the 2011 draft, we can still take him because we aren't totally married to Whitehurst.


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