Tech Worlds wrote:Just being used. We all have seen this before

Tech Worlds wrote:Just being used. We all have seen this before

m0ng0 wrote:so how about a list of players the team should be looking at? the cano move seems as popular as the bloomquist signing talk to me fans of the mariners who is out there that is a good fit?

getnasty wrote:Where is Franklin going to play?

Smelly McUgly wrote:

getnasty wrote:Where is Franklin going to play?

In Tampa after we trade him and Taijuan Walker for David Price as if that's going to be a smart mo--**sobs**

Blitzer88 wrote:Well reports are that he is in Seattle today and the M's are willing to offer 10 years at 240-250 mil. That's a whole lot of dough!

Uncle Si wrote:

Smelly McUgly wrote:

getnasty wrote:Where is Franklin going to play?

In Tampa after we trade him and Taijuan Walker for David Price as if that's going to be a smart mo--**sobs**

what part would bother you more, losing Franklin or Walker? (I still dont see the deal going through. I feel like salary restraints will derail that one).

but seriously, as far as philosophy goes, Walker (his upside is as high as the risk of simply throwing his arm out) for a near Cy young level pitcher?

to me, the deal looks good, IF the Ms were closer (which they arent). they need more, and Price isnt what they need more of

SeatownJay wrote:FS1 reported that the Mariners' offer to Cano was less than $200 million.

CALIHAWK1 wrote:Sign him and pull off the trade for Kemp. Confidence restoted. Fannies in seats.

m0ng0 wrote:

CALIHAWK1 wrote:Sign him and pull off the trade for Kemp. Confidence restoted. Fannies in seats.

what is the trade Kemp rumor? Any details?

425HawkSpark wrote:

m0ng0 wrote:

CALIHAWK1 wrote:Sign him and pull off the trade for Kemp. Confidence restoted. Fannies in seats.

what is the trade Kemp rumor? Any details?

Same players for price. I did hear we are offering miller and Franklin.

Cano and his camp arrived in Seattle with what sources described as basically an eight-year deal for $200 million in hand and the assurances that Seattle would go to nine years and $225 million. But when Jay Z then upped the ante to 10 years for $252 million, Mariners president Howard Lincoln apparently "exploded," according to one of the sources, and ended the meeting.

The Mariners have to overcome a lot to win Cano, so they need to open their wallet big time. And it's not just that they're the Mariners and the Yankees are the Yankees. Consider ...

• It is well known that the new Cano agent Jay Z badly wanted Cano in New York, where he can presumably take full advantage of his marketing ideas, whatever they may be, and where Cano can be close to him.

• Cano's father Jose Cano, who played for the Houston Astros, and who's something of a stage father, badly wanted Cano in New York, too, and Cano listens to his father.

• Seattle is a long way from the 40-40 club and other New York City haunts Cano loves to frequent (and it isn't even known if he's a coffee drinker).

• Seattle is a long way from New York, and an even longer way from the Dominican Republic.

• Safeco Field historically has been one of the worst parks for hitters in the majors (though they lowered the fences and moved them in a bit last year). One baseball person wondered whether he could jeopardize his Hall-of-Fame chances by going from a 30-homer guy to 20.

• The Mariners still couldn't offer him much in the way of lineup protection.While they are trying for other big players such as Matt Kemp and Nelson Cruz, their best player at present is Kyle Seager.

• They are the Mariners. They've been crummy four straight years and have never made a World Series, contrasting with the Yankees, who have only missed the playoffs twice since 1995 and averaged 96 wins in that period.

Uncle Si wrote:The Yankees wont give him the 9 year the Ms offered nor the 10 year offer Jay Z wants. Cano might not be a Mariner, but I doubt he's a Yankee for anything more than a 7 year deal.

It signals another turn in the increasingly frustrating yet ultimately comical wheel that is the Mariners. What frustrates me the most is that Jack Z continues to try and nab the Fielder, Hamilton, and now Cano deals instead of taking the money he would have spent there and improving the team in other ways. In each of the first two attempts, once Fielder and Hamilton moved on (and thankfully in hindsight) their was no significant back up plan to spend that money.. only Ibanez and Morse. Why is he so incessant on spending on one guy? If you're willing to spend 25 million per year then cant it be done elsewhere if Cano doesnt work out? thats what scares me, is Jack Z will shut down if/when this doesnt work instead of dutifully applying the 25 million in a more constructive and creative manner.

Uncle Si wrote:The Yankees wont give him the 9 year the Ms offered nor the 10 year offer Jay Z wants. Cano might not be a Mariner, but I doubt he's a Yankee for anything more than a 7 year deal.

It signals another turn in the increasingly frustrating yet ultimately comical wheel that is the Mariners. What frustrates me the most is that Jack Z continues to try and nab the Fielder, Hamilton, and now Cano deals instead of taking the money he would have spent there and improving the team in other ways. In each of the first two attempts, once Fielder and Hamilton moved on (and thankfully in hindsight) their was no significant back up plan to spend that money.. only Ibanez and Morse. Why is he so incessant on spending on one guy? If you're willing to spend 25 million per year then cant it be done elsewhere if Cano doesnt work out? thats what scares me, is Jack Z will shut down if/when this doesnt work instead of dutifully applying the 25 million in a more constructive and creative manner.