Tylerhawk wrote:Bad pass protection maybe

The Outfield wrote:
Hopefully he doesn't mind sitting out until he learns more about the offense and blocking.

Tech Worlds wrote:Secret weapon! They are going to unleash him down the home stretch at key points in the game to totally overwhelm our opponents.

Word

Bigpumpkin wrote:I can say that I really can't blame him for feeling like an "outcast". He sees other teams make playing time for their 1st Round picks...."Why am I not I seeing the field?"

DavidSeven wrote:

Bigpumpkin wrote:I can say that I really can't blame him for feeling like an "outcast". He sees other teams make playing time for their 1st Round picks...."Why am I not I seeing the field?"

Who says he feels like an outcast? And he was the very last pick of the 2nd round, not a first rounder.

LaMichael James was a 2nd round pick last season and didn't play an offensive snap until December. He's still barely used behind Gore and Hunter.

He was a "1st Rounder" for the Hawks, was he not? Perhaps, I should have said "first pick".

Smellyman wrote:it is frustrating that we lament the fact we need game breakers who threaten a D and desperately want to see harvin, have a guy on the bench who does just that.

Smellyman wrote:it is frustrating that we lament the fact we need game breakers who threaten a D and desperately want to see harvin, have a guy on the bench who does just that.

A few packages and plays per game would be nice

Scottemojo wrote:I understand being intoxicated with what this kid can do, but at the risk of appealing to authority, I trust Pete to do right by Michael. Golden Tate was a talented dude too, but didn't get how to be a professional and how to run routes. It took him time, why should we assume CM won't take time? CM has documented issues with his college coaching staff, perhaps he is learning as much about life right now as he is about football. Or not learning, which could also be the explanation for his lack of time.

Brandon Browner got benched for not playing within the frame of the defense. The limited bit we have seen CM suggests he doesn't play well in the frame of the offense, ignoring the one cut to look for the bigger play.

What is so hard to understand about not trusting the rook?

ivotuk wrote:Why would anyone want ot start an inexperienced rookie behind this line? You think Marshawn is having fumble problems? Put Michael in there and see what you get, well besides him getting your franchise QB killed.

I never understand why people bemoan the fact that an untested rookie is not playing and seem to think he will be the next big thing. In reality, those kind of moves hurt a team, not help it. Relax, Lynch and Turbin are playing well and are one of the main reasons our QB can still walk.

Go back and watch some of the blocks Marshawn and Robert make, then imagine Christine attempting those blocks and what would happen to Russell Wilson. Remember Lynch spitting up blood?

I'm guessing here, but I believe they are making their decisions based on what they are seeing in practice.

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Smellyman wrote:it is frustrating that we lament the fact we need game breakers who threaten a D and desperately want to see harvin, have a guy on the bench who does just that.

1. When you have one of the best backs in the league like Lynch, it's hard to not give him touches for an unproven rookie.

2. Michael still has to learn pass protection. It's not as easy as just saying "He's exciting, let's get him in the game." He has a lot of responsibility other than just carrying the rock. Until he's got all that down, Pete isn't going to play him...........especially when he has two backs that know what they're doing ahead of him.

Michael is more than likely the back of the future, but that's not for another 2-3 years.

plyka wrote:
The only argument which can be made not to give him time is that they are not comfortable with his understanding and or blocking. Which makes perfect sense. Russell is the #1 guy on this team, superbowl hopes would go up in flames if he got hurt, so if Michael increases that chance, then you don't give him time. But this is the only argument against Michael. And you can better judge once he is in their for a few snaps in the game.

hawk79 wrote:Don't know if this has been posted, but what is going on with Michael? Why are they not using him more? Kind of surprised.

HawkWow wrote:I think we can go back and forth all day long about why Pete is holding CM out. In the end, only the team knows. The camp that wants to see CM now has every right to demand as much. It's just too easy to say "CM is a 3rd string back....has trouble blocking...troubles with special team play". There's no position easier to transition from college to pro, than RB. IF after almost 3 months CM is still not ready, he was drafted WAY too high.

When we used our 1st pick on a back, most of us asked WTH? But we grew comfortable with the pick because CM was damn "near Harvin-like" in terms of explosiveness. "Just wait til you see this guy". OK, we're waiting. IF CM was as deadly as promised, they would have found a place to work him in from time to time. It's not like we have been blowing teams out week after week and again, if the concern is "games have been tight, can't risk a turnover". if that's the case, again, he was drafted WAY too high.

"We're saving him for the future". Why? Did we fear the NCAA was getting ready to ban RBs? There's never a shortage of RBs, but in 2013, we did have a shortage of top draft picks.

The argument "there are many 3rd string backs with no more carries than CM" only holds water if those backs were 1st or 2nd rounders.

MontanaHawk05 wrote:

hawk79 wrote:Don't know if this has been posted, but what is going on with Michael? Why are they not using him more? Kind of surprised.

BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS PETE CARROLL AN IDIOT, BUT HE DIDN'T LIKE CHRISTINE MICHAEL ANYWAY AND ONLY PICKED HIM BECAUSE SCHNEIDER REALLY WANTED HIM AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THE BEGINNING OF A RIFT BETWEEN CARROLL AND SCHNEIDER THAT WILL DERAIL OUR SUPER BOWL DREAMS. ALSO, CARROLL HAS IT OUT FOR MICHAEL AS AN INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE HIS MOTHER.

Just kidding. Hawk79's question was totally innocent. But I do wonder sometimes what the Michael fans are looking for.

HawkWow wrote:As of today, he's a top pick not seeing playing time. Hard to be a fan of that.

MontanaHawk05 wrote:

HawkWow wrote:As of today, he's a top pick not seeing playing time. Hard to be a fan of that.

This is actually common for a championship team. Once a team becomes a perennial contender, they often go into "maintenance mode" with their high picks and ease them in while the current stars wear down. They were selected with a specific role in mind, but there's no hurry to rush them into that role as there would be with a bad team. They have more wiggle room for "luxury picks".

As for Seattle - well, we could debate over whether they went into maintenance mode prematurely, but they did almost make the NFCCG last year. And RB's wear down fast. I never really raised an eyebrow at the Michael pick.

Blitzer88 wrote:I would love to see production from our 2nd rd pick this year, but right now we have not necessarily needed him yet, plus they probably still want him to improve on certain aspects of his game such as pass pro.

HawkWow wrote:

Blitzer88 wrote:I would love to see production from our 2nd rd pick this year, but right now we have not necessarily needed him yet, plus they probably still want him to improve on certain aspects of his game such as pass pro.

Your last sentence is the one that causes me the most discomfort, Blitzer. In college, CM played at a major program where the passing game was prominent. He should have been fairly well dialed in on protection from his time there, alone.

Since that time, he's had the luxury of some of the worlds best coaches working with him while being surrounded by some of the best players in the league. We know that he is a very talented athlete, so with all that coaching and all that talent, how is it that he can't get on a football field? For me, it's troubling.

chris98251 wrote:Shaun Alexander had a few splinters in his butt that first year also. We can start a new tradition though, the Wheres Micheal weekly Thread, I think we see one every week sionce he looked so dynamic in pre season.

Hawks46 wrote:

chris98251 wrote:Shaun Alexander had a few splinters in his butt that first year also. We can start a new tradition though, the Wheres Micheal weekly Thread, I think we see one every week sionce he looked so dynamic in pre season.

We can add that to the "holy crap someone sneezed in China and Turbin fell down" thread we see every week.

Meanwhile, Turbin ran over 5 guys in the Arizona game on his way to a 3-4 yard run and looked like Lynch doing it. But no one will mention it when anything good happens since he seems to be a pariah on this board now.