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I think the FO is trying to trade some of these good players that we have to cut before we cut them. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we were able to do it either. Who could you see being the most likely to fetch a pick or player?

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I think Guy. DBs are always a premium and he is a big hitter too.

Think about it with the amount of QB injuries, Quinn may have a fair amount of interest. Cheap contract , limited duration. If you need a guy for a year (NYJ &BUF)
and want to make sure you get him would you give a 7th? I think I would.


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Guy, Lane, Maragos (I dont like this one, but I believe it to be true).

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My sources have indicated to me that no trades will be made prior to the cut down.

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Do teams ever really make trades right before the cut down? I feel like all this talk of getting value out of players we're just going to cut anyway is kinda homer talk


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Tech Worlds wrote:
My sources have indicated to me that no trades will be made prior to the cut down.

Mine confirmed this.

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The Patriots may bite on a cheap TE. They made some odd cuts today. Unless playing Tebow at TE isn't just a rumor?


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Tech Worlds wrote:
My sources have indicated to me that no trades will be made prior to the cut down.


Yeah trades pretty much never happen during these times.

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It might also be Brooks but I really hope they don't cut him.


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Do teams ever really make trades right before the cut down? I feel like all this talk of getting value out of players we're just going to cut anyway is kinda homer talk


I don't think so. Say a player that's good is going to get cut and a team low on the waiver wire order wants that player.

They could trade for him and guarantee to get that player or run the risk of him getting claimed by a team ahead of them.

There may be a few players in that category.

But I think a trade is remote in any case.


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Tech Worlds wrote:
My sources have indicated to me that no trades will be made prior to the cut down.


Yeah trades pretty much never happen during these times.

On a rare occasion, a team will make a trade if they think a coveted player will not be available to them in FA for some reason, but yeah, it's really rare. It'd be nice if we could pick up a late round draft pick or two, but you certainly can't count on that.

These are, after all, players that didn't make the roster. :229031_shrug:

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Had to share this and a good spot I think

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Mayeb Thurmond and Maxwell, starter quality buried in the depth chart here.

Sorry misread, obviously those are 2 players not getting cut, but two who could have other teams interested in, to trade for.

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I think the FO is trying to trade some of these good players that we have to cut before we cut them. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we were able to do it either. Who could you see being the most likely to fetch a pick or player?


Why would another team trade for a player that's about to be cut?

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jlwaters1 wrote:
therealjohncarlson wrote:
Do teams ever really make trades right before the cut down? I feel like all this talk of getting value out of players we're just going to cut anyway is kinda homer talk


I don't think so. Say a player that's good is going to get cut and a team low on the waiver wire order wants that player.

They could trade for him and guarantee to get that player or run the risk of him getting claimed by a team ahead of them.

There may be a few players in that category.

But I think a trade is remote in any case.


This would be the only scenario I could think of for someone wanting to do a trade and they also would pretty much have to be in desperation mode for that position. Being so close to the season opener, it would be difficult to see how the player fits into the team and if it doesn't pan out, they basically wasted a roster spot. The key thing is though, teams aren't going to be willing to trade draft picks for roster cuts during the trimdown time, and pretty much will only trade player for player. The Hawks really don't need any more players outside of depth and they're already having a hard time trimming the roster down to 53 as is, so I don't see a trade likely.

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I think the FO is trying to trade some of these good players that we have to cut before we cut them. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we were able to do it either. Who could you see being the most likely to fetch a pick or player?


Why would another team trade for a player that's about to be cut?


If it is a player that multiple teams are interested in, and you are a crappy team with no chance of a player wanting to play for you (ie. Buffalo)...then maybe you take a shot on a bargain trade that allows you to get the player without competing for his services.

It doesn't happen much, but it is not completely unheard of.

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Do cuts at this time even go on the waiver wire? I was of the impression that most, if not all, final cuts are UFAs. Certainly, anybody that was UDFA, thus not drafted, would not be subject to waivers.

The only thing the 'Hawks would want in this unlikely scenario would be draft picks for next year. Waht we would get would probably be 7's anyway. Useful, of course, but not top value.

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Winston Guy has zero trade value. He's yet to prove himself in a regular season game and has a PED suspension on his record, and the fact that he'd be available in trade would imply that the team which drafted him a year ago is already done with him. You wouldn't get a ripped Dave Valle baseball card in trade for Winston Guy.


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I think the FO is trying to trade some of these good players that we have to cut before we cut them. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we were able to do it either. Who could you see being the most likely to fetch a pick or player?


Why would another team trade for a player that's about to be cut?


Because it may not cost them anything. You trade one player who's going to be cut for another that's going to be cut.
They get who they want, and we are assured the ninners don't pick him up.
eg. Stephen Williams.


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Do cuts at this time even go on the waiver wire? I was of the impression that most, if not all, final cuts are UFAs. Certainly, anybody that was UDFA, thus not drafted, would not be subject to waivers.

The only thing the 'Hawks would want in this unlikely scenario would be draft picks for next year. Waht we would get would probably be 7's anyway. Useful, of course, but not top value.


Yes they go through the waver wire system.

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I think the FO is trying to trade some of these good players that we have to cut before we cut them. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we were able to do it either. Who could you see being the most likely to fetch a pick or player?


Why would another team trade for a player that's about to be cut?


Because it may not cost them anything. You trade one player who's going to be cut for another that's going to be cut.
They get who they want, and we are assured the ninners don't pick him up.
eg. Stephen Williams.


For the Seahawks, it would be difficult because outside of depth, nothing is really of need. They're already having a hard time trimming the roster down as is, so I don't see them trading for another player likely unless they're extremely high on them since they don't really have the time to see how they fit due to the start of the season coming up and if they miss on this prospect, they basically wasted a roster spot.

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Winston Guy for a 5-th/6-th round pick (Jacksonville?)

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The only one I could see would be Quinn. He played fairly well in the 2nd half last night, and there are a lot of teams that could use a serviceable backup QB at this point... the scenario where a team that's really low on the waiver pecking order might be willing to give up a 7th round pick next year to get him is very real, I think. That said, do I think it's going to happen? No. Just that it's the most likely player we could get a pick for. We don't need more players...


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Tech Worlds wrote:
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Do cuts at this time even go on the waiver wire? I was of the impression that most, if not all, final cuts are UFAs. Certainly, anybody that was UDFA, thus not drafted, would not be subject to waivers.

The only thing the 'Hawks would want in this unlikely scenario would be draft picks for next year. Waht we would get would probably be 7's anyway. Useful, of course, but not top value.


Yes they go through the waver wire system.


Depends on the player. If you have 4 years of accrued seasons in the NFL or more, you become an UFA and can sign with any team. Your previous contract is void.

If you have 1-3 years of accrued seasons you must go through the waiver wire. If claimed, they pick up your previous contract. If you clear waivers, your previous contract is void and you become an UFA and can sign with any team to a new contract.

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I think the FO is trying to trade some of these good players that we have to cut before we cut them. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we were able to do it either. Who could you see being the most likely to fetch a pick or player?


Why would another team trade for a player that's about to be cut?


Because it may not cost them anything. You trade one player who's going to be cut for another that's going to be cut.
They get who they want, and we are assured the ninners don't pick him up.
eg. Stephen Williams.


We're cutting players to free up roster space. Doesn't make sense to trade for another player that's also going to take up the roster spot you just had to get rid of.

Maybe for a draft pick, but again if you're another team it doesn't make sense to trade valuable draft picks for players that are being cut. In fact, I've never even seen that done. Teams just wait til after the roster cut downs.

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Heard some rumblings of a winfield move.


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Heard some rumblings of a winfield move.


Hmmmmm. Thus does jibe with the way I have heard it.

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Heard some rumblings of a winfield move.


That makes me nervous. I understand that Thurmond's had a great camp, and Winfield's been gimpy.........but I like knowing that they're both going to be there in case one of the other might have to miss a game (or worse).

IMO until Thurmond proves he can keep his ass healthy for half a season or more, I want Pete and John to keep Winfield as insurance.

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