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Zebulon Dak
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Post subject: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions  Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:51 am |
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Hope you're happy, peaches. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03 ... ?mobile=ncQuote: Republicans voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act more than three dozen times, ran on a pledge to eliminate the law on “day one,” and sought to underfund the measure at every opportunity. But since the Supreme Court upheld the ACA and President Obama won re-election the political dynamics of reform have changed: Republican governors are slowly embracing elements of the law and Congressional Republicans are no longer scheduling votes to repeal it.
In another sign of the growing political support for health reform — or the sense that opposing its most popular elements has become politically perilous — a group of top House Republicans have written a letter to President Obama asking him to preserve a temporary program included in the law that provides health care coverage to people with pre-existing conditions. If you can't beat em, join em? Or just more political posturing? Paul/Rubio 2016!! _________________   Tanzania¹²
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:35 am |
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Actually, I think it's stategy. The program mentioned is one of the more costly provisions, that's why it's supposed to be temporary until the full law kicks in. The Repubs are trying to encourage overspending, so they can do their "See we can't afford it" posturing later. I'll believe they really want to cover more people when they actually move to fund the law.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:38 am |
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:53 am |
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damn those right wing socialist bastards.
But it's true, politics now-a-days is not much about the facts but about getting political power. Just like trickle down economics, no economist likes it, but it's still used by politicians.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:37 pm |
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Wait, so even when they agree, they're just being partisan assholes. I guess some folks are just born with little coal black hearts and are beyond salvation.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:48 pm |
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Seahawk Sailor wrote: Wait, so even when they agree, they're just being partisan assholes. I guess some folks are just born with little coal black hearts and are beyond salvation. Everyone on the opposite side of some people's political spectrums.
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Zebulon Dak
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:24 pm |
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Seahawk Sailor wrote: Wait, so even when they agree, they're just being partisan assholes. I guess some folks are just born with little coal black hearts and are beyond salvation. Ummm... you are familiar with the American political system? _________________ Tanzania¹²
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:49 pm |
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Ehh.. Paul/Rubio...
I think I may prefer Paul/Cruz.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:57 pm |
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Maelstrom787 wrote: Ehh.. Paul/Rubio...
I think I may prefer Paul/Cruz. Or Paul/Gonzales _________________ Tanzania¹²
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:01 pm |
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I think Chris Paul and Ricky Rubio would be a killer combination, personally.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:15 pm |
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haha nice try peaches but this isn't a futbol tourney
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:43 pm |
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:47 pm |
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Zebulon Dak wrote: haha nice try peaches but this isn't a futbol tourney Futbol > politics. Every time.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:16 pm |
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peachesenregalia wrote: Zebulon Dak wrote: haha nice try peaches but this isn't a futbol tourney Seahawks Football> politics. Every time. There, fixed it for ya!
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:19 pm |
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Zebulon Dak wrote: Hope you're happy, peaches. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03 ... ?mobile=ncQuote: Republicans voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act more than three dozen times, ran on a pledge to eliminate the law on “day one,” and sought to underfund the measure at every opportunity. But since the Supreme Court upheld the ACA and President Obama won re-election the political dynamics of reform have changed: Republican governors are slowly embracing elements of the law and Congressional Republicans are no longer scheduling votes to repeal it.
In another sign of the growing political support for health reform — or the sense that opposing its most popular elements has become politically perilous — a group of top House Republicans have written a letter to President Obama asking him to preserve a temporary program included in the law that provides health care coverage to people with pre-existing conditions. If you can't beat em, join em? Or just more political posturing? Paul/Rubio 2016!! It's hypocritical but a smart political move, they are playing both sides of the fence, so they can change their arguement based on the crowd they are speaking to.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:15 pm |
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Sports Hernia wrote: It's hypocritical but a smart political move, they are playing both sides of the fence, so they can change their arguement based on the crowd they are speaking to. I don't think it's any coincidence that in the past week or so they've come out in favor of gay marriage & healthcare reform and in opposition to gunning people down in the streets. 3 things they're notoriously usually the opposite on. _________________ Tanzania¹²
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:20 am |
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We should also pass a law forcing car insurance companies to cover pre-existing damages.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:43 am |
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fenderbender123 wrote: We should also pass a law forcing car insurance companies to cover pre-existing damages. Have you had an auto insurance company deny you coverage because of pre-existing damage? Is auto insurance not required by law in order to operate a motor vehicle? Do you think that the cost of operating and maintaining a motor vehicle can come even close to the potential costs of ambulance bills, hospital stays, surgeries, organ replacements, doctor's visits & prescriptions? In the rare case that an auto insurance company does deny you coverage (which in most cases is your fault for not paying/being a shitty person) do you DIE from it? Yeah. They're totally the same thing. That... is why you FAIL. _________________ Tanzania¹²
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:24 pm |
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Zebulon Dak wrote: fenderbender123 wrote: We should also pass a law forcing car insurance companies to cover pre-existing damages. Have you had an auto insurance company deny you coverage because of pre-existing damage? Is auto insurance not required by law in order to operate a motor vehicle? Do you think that the cost of operating and maintaining a motor vehicle can come even close to the potential costs of ambulance bills, hospital stays, surgeries, organ replacements, doctor's visits & prescriptions? In the rare case that an auto insurance company does deny you coverage (which in most cases is your fault for not paying/being a shitty person) do you DIE from it? Yeah. They're totally the same thing. That... is why you FAIL. I would say most pre-existing conditions lie at the fault of the person. Not all of course. But definitely most can be prevented by making healthy choices. Explain to me why I should have to pay more for my health insurance because some asshole decided to go skateboarding without protective gear and without health insurance and busted his shoulder? Wait wait I can already predict the response "DUDE YOU ARE PAINTING WITH BROAD STROKES. NOT EVERY SITUATION IS THE SAME" ....so before I hear any of that let me just explain that I am already aware of that.
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Post subject: Re: (R)'s Demand Coverage To People w/ Pre-Existing Conditions Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:43 pm |
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fenderbender123 wrote: Zebulon Dak wrote: fenderbender123 wrote: We should also pass a law forcing car insurance companies to cover pre-existing damages. Have you had an auto insurance company deny you coverage because of pre-existing damage? Is auto insurance not required by law in order to operate a motor vehicle? Do you think that the cost of operating and maintaining a motor vehicle can come even close to the potential costs of ambulance bills, hospital stays, surgeries, organ replacements, doctor's visits & prescriptions? In the rare case that an auto insurance company does deny you coverage (which in most cases is your fault for not paying/being a shitty person) do you DIE from it? Yeah. They're totally the same thing. That... is why you FAIL. I would say most pre-existing conditions lie at the fault of the person. Not all of course. But definitely most can be prevented by making healthy choices. Explain to me why I should have to pay more for my health insurance because some asshole decided to go skateboarding without protective gear and without health insurance and busted his shoulder? Wait wait I can already predict the response "DUDE YOU ARE PAINTING WITH BROAD STROKES. NOT EVERY SITUATION IS THE SAME" ....so before I hear any of that let me just explain that I am already aware of that. Cancer.
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