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 Post subject: Re: Dori Monson haters:
 Post Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:28 pm 
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I think you're mixing "discussing a specific event" with the drivel you just typed. What large assumptions are being made? I mean, the damn thing was caught on video. Discussing facts about what WASN'T done by anybody there is not "making large assumptions and treating a very particular situation as though it's representative of every other similar situation"...

There are a lot of other instances of this. Remember that lady that was passed out in the middle of the road and a security camera caught dozens of cars swerving to avoid her, and nobody stopping to help?

How about this little study: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12 ... udy-found/

You may not want to believe it, but people are assholes by and large when they think they can get away with it, and there's a lot of evidence that backs my "assumption", as you can see in the link I just posted. Let's not forget this list of psychological experiments that further demonstrates the point, too.

Stop thinking people are inherently good, kind, altruistic souls and maybe you won't disagree with me on this point so much. Bottom line is, people were all acting like a bunch of damsels in distress against a rowdy homeless guy who likely had mental problems, and nobody did anything about it besides ask others to take care of it for them. Can't dust up those fingers that have thousands of pounds of genius legal briefs to write for the next 5 decades, or risk actually doing anything. I almost wish he HAD been dangerous, just to prove a point. The point is, until you know whether someone is dangerous or not, you should assume they are if their behavior is suspicious; and I'd call a homeless man eating an ice cream cone wandering into a basement classroom at a university trying to flip over tables and chairs "suspicious."

The Blaze? Isn't that Glenn Beckkk's site? And you're calling people mindless? That's rich!
Monson and Beckkk you don't get much more extreme than that!


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Ad hominem abusive
An ad hominem is an argument which tries to disprove another argument by attacking the person who made it, rather than by focusing on the actual logical reasoning. The goal of an ad hominem argument is usually to take focus off of the actual argument by calling attention to a flaw of the person making it. This form of argument follows the form:
Person A argues that P
Person A is Q
Q is some derogatory description not related to the argument at hand
Therefore P is false


I try and read through articles before arguing that the point is invalid, even if I think most of the main stream media people are absolute idiots. (including Glenn Beck) Sometimes, they still make a valid point.


That's a pretty stupid train of thought. Do you read every spam email just in case there's something that might be there?

It's easy to disregard an article based on the author (I think most of us do this on here!). Once it comes from a credible source at least you can have faith in what you have read.

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 Post subject: Re: Dori Monson haters:
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That's a bad comparison...

I would read an article that I wanted to refute if someone had posted it here, and that is very different from reading every single spam email.

Sure it's easy to disregard an article based on the author, just as its easy to disregard an opinion coming from someone you don't care for, but it's still a fallacy.


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 Post subject: Re: Dori Monson haters:
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Is it? I have no clue. I don't follow Glenn Beck. I found that by Googling some key words for how much of a shit people don't really give about their fellow man. Regardless, it was a study/test at Clemson by a student there. I suppose the fact that it's on The Blaze makes it unreliable? I mean, if that's the case, pretty much everything you've ever linked is unreliable due to coming from left-wing nutjob sites. I love how you apply your special form of logic against people you disagree with, and ignore it in regards to yourself.

You probably don't even believe me when I say I don't follow Glenn Beck. Oh, well; I don't really care. I know what I do and do not do in my own life, and I'm sure as shit not insecure enough to give a rat's ass what someone like you thinks about it.

Really, my links are to left wing sites? I hardly ever link things and unlike you I don't need a political website to do my thinking for me. But hey, if that's how you get your rocks off???

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 Post subject: Re: Dori Monson haters:
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unlike you I don't need a political website to do my thinking for me.


You're right; your mind is made up and incapable of change even when hard proof is put in front of your eyes. That's your problem, not mine. Keep thinking you've got all the answers with your political view, bro. :th2thumbs:


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That's a pretty stupid train of thought. Do you read every spam email just in case there's something that might be there?

It's easy to disregard an article based on the author (I think most of us do this on here!). Once it comes from a credible source at least you can have faith in what you have read.


The world isn't so black and white. Even people like Hitler and Castro and all these dictators we hate were right about some things. Extremists and partisan hacks in my experiences are definitely less credible, but that does not mean they are always wrong and that we should disregard everything they say.


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 Post subject: Re: Dori Monson haters:
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RolandDeschain wrote:
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unlike you I don't need a political website to do my thinking for me.


You're right; your mind is made up and incapable of change even when hard proof is put in front of your eyes. That's your problem, not mine. Keep thinking you've got all the answers with your political view, bro. :th2thumbs:

And all because I don't share your extreme right wing viewpoint and believe your extreme right wing sources! Neat! :roll:
Politically speaking you either lied about knowing the political leanings of the source of your link or you are incredibly naive. I could see either being the case......

Or you can claim you got it from The Drudge report, a site that "conservatives" view as fair and balanced.

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 Post subject: Re: Dori Monson haters:
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Do you know what a "source" is? Glenn Beck and his cronies didn't do the research, numbnuts. I mostly try to avoid politics; as in, I never really go to political websites to read. Almost all the news I read/find of my own accord comes from http://news.google.com which is politically neutral. So, if not following politics like you do means I'm incredibly naive because I KNOW both sides are full of shit and I don't believe everything they say just because I agree with them like you do, then I am more than happy to be incredibly naive by your definition, Hernia. I consider it a compliment, in this case.


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Am I mistaken - or was it only women in the class that are quoted as being in fear for their life? Could it be that the "men" weren't afraid? and thus did not respond? So much so that they just recorded it on a cell phone to later post on YouTube?


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After I put him in a coma my defense would have been he was packing a nutty buddy :)

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