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 Post Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:38 pm 
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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/05/tsa-to-allow-small-knives-on-flights/

Starting April 25, blades shorter than 2.36 inches will be allowed on U.S. airline flights. Interesting. And also worthless, since pretty much any pocket knife has a three inch blade.

Of course, this means you'll probably get to keep your fingernail clippers, so there's that.

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This actually means the combination tiny knife/bottle opener I keep on my key chain can stay on it when I fly, now; so I'm on board.


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Good move, should have been made long ago. Too bad I lost my pocket knife. :(

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I had one of those mini swiss army knives, 1 blade, toothpick, tweezer and what I believe is a finger nail file, the smallest ones you can get as far as I know. Blade's maybe an inch and a half? Greyhound took it. Bastards.

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I had 7" screwdriver in my backpack (use it for work) that I forgot about it. The guy just looks at me and goes, "is this your bag? You know this was in there?" I shook my head no, and he says, "it shouldn't be over 7" but its close enough. Here ya go. Have a good flight." I was so freaking worried. Luckily the guy was cool about it.


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I had a nice leatherman in my backpack that was either going to be confiscated or I could drop it in this machine and mail it back to my home, I was away for 4 days my leatherman arrived from PDX to my house almost a month later :D

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awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!

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Sweet. Time to go cut a bitch.

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awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!


Ah. Irony writ large.

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awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!


Ah. Irony writ large.


Hardly. The improvements in safety and security of the cockpit is what will prevent another 9/11, not just banning sharp objects.

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ChiefHawk wrote:
awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!


Actually box cutters are still illegal. Also, from what I've been reading at various places online, it seems that the policy for the type of knife you can carry is so particular that most average pocket knifes still aren't allowed.

Sometimes I wonder how many man hours the government puts into thinking up all this stuff


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kidhawk wrote:
ChiefHawk wrote:
awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!


Actually box cutters are still illegal. Also, from what I've been reading at various places online, it seems that the policy for the type of knife you can carry is so particular that most average pocket knifes still aren't allowed.

Sometimes I wonder how many man hours the government puts into thinking up all this stuff

And how many tax dollars are spent in that process.

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Sports Hernia wrote:
kidhawk wrote:
ChiefHawk wrote:
awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!


Actually box cutters are still illegal. Also, from what I've been reading at various places online, it seems that the policy for the type of knife you can carry is so particular that most average pocket knifes still aren't allowed.

Sometimes I wonder how many man hours the government puts into thinking up all this stuff

And how many tax dollars are spent in that process.


No doubt, and they call it "improvement" :roll:


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SonicHawk wrote:
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ChiefHawk wrote:
awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!


Ah. Irony writ large.


Hardly. The improvements in safety and security of the cockpit is what will prevent another 9/11, not just banning sharp objects.


True, the improvements in cockpit security is what will prevent another 9/11, but it is ironic that the very thing that precipitated it all in the first place is now free to bring on a plane again. (If indeed that's the case.)

And do we really trust TSA with determining what's legal and illegal, when they can't do it now without falling all over themselves and molesting three-year-olds in the screening process?

Hey, update: box cutters are still banned, because “There’s just too much emotion associated with them." Yea, that's how to make risk analysis decisions, on fucking emotion. News flash: there is a shit ton of emotion and fear associated with turbulence. If something's going to go wrong with your flight, fucking unlikely as hell it'll be turbulence. Any chance that's higher on the priority list than say a fuel leak, something not associated with emotion and fear, but certainly associated with your flight going down in a fiery ball of death?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-05/tsa-will-permit-knives-golf-clubs-on-u-s-planes.html

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Sports Hernia wrote:
kidhawk wrote:
ChiefHawk wrote:
awesome. the weapon the 911 hijackers used (boxcutters) is now allowed again!

Think of the money we will save by disbanding the TSA!


Actually box cutters are still illegal. Also, from what I've been reading at various places online, it seems that the policy for the type of knife you can carry is so particular that most average pocket knifes still aren't allowed.

Sometimes I wonder how many man hours the government puts into thinking up all this stuff

And how many tax dollars are spent in that process.


And then they pat themselves on the back and say "see, we haven't had another airplane hijacking incident...it's working!" even though the odds of having another one anyway without TSA is probably close to zero.


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I saw in later reports that actual boxcutters were still banned - my bad, although I'm not real sure what the safety difference is in how a 1.5-2" blade is held.

I think the improvements to cockpit security were a good thing - but we don't need a bloated TSA for that.

The most likely thing to happen in the event that someone attempted to hijack a plane today is that that individual gets pounded to pudding by the other pax in about 20 seconds flat. As a people, we are no longer passive in the event of a hijacking.

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