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Sums it up pretty well, for me.


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Irony is putting a sign like this on a huge billboard in a public place.

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Irony is putting a sign like this on a huge billboard in a public place.


Ha! First thing I thought of.

I don't get people, what are you all so scared of? Religion seems to me to be the least of our concerns. People have the freedom to tell you about their religious beliefs. You have the freedom to ignore them.

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It's clearly not actually on a billboard, but Photoshopped on there.

Peaches, I am not scared of religion. Far from it. What I am, is tired of HEARING about it. It's annoying. I don't give a flying fuck about your (as in, anybody's) religion, and in this country, we not only have freedom OF religion, we have freedom FROM religion. So, keep that shit out of my face and thank your teammates, coaches, and your own hard work for the TD you just scored; not some invisible figment of your imagination in the sky. If you get motivation from said figment, that's perfectly fine. More power to you. However, don't attribute everything to it in front of millions of people. That is just self-serving and proving you are not, in fact, as pious and humble as your religion thinks you should be.


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Yeah! Let's stop people from doing harmless personal expressions! WOOOOO!!!!

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You've got the right to express your religion in public, and I've got the right to tell you to shut the fuck up about it. Why do you want to suppress mine, and not yours?


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Who said I want to suppress yours? i just think you're getting awfully upset about someone pointing to the sky. Seems excessive.

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You've got the right to express your religion in public, and I've got the right to tell you to shut the fuck up about it. Why do you want to suppress mine, and not yours?


continuing the circle, why is it ok for you to tell them to shut up about it, but not for them to tell you to shut up about them shutting up?


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Oh Roland... you make my heart sing.


You make everything....groovy....

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If it wasn't for the grace of God we wouldn't be able to agree to disagree!


If it wasn't for the grace of man we wouldn't have so many gods to agree or disagree about.

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Peaches, I am not scared of religion. Far from it. What I am, is tired of HEARING about it. It's annoying.


You remind me of John Morgan. He could have just ignored the trolls on the ESPN boards. But I get the impression that he spent so many sleepless nights gnashing his teeth over the very thought of their ignorance, deliberately visiting those boards to slowly stoke his self-righteous indignation, that eventually he felt compelled to build a community around a false sense of intellectual elitism just to try and show up the trolls. And it eventually it bit him in the butt. When all he had to do was ignore the trolls.

Forgive me, but I'm finding a hard time envisioning a real-life scenario where you are unable to simply tune out the spiritual beliefs of others. I hope you weren't that high school dropout who nabbed a second job as a church janitor and then was shocked to find himself surrounded by spiritual influences. Do you live in a drafty apartment right next to a megachurch? Have your car radio somehow stuck on K-LOVE? Handle accounts for Westboro? What has you so fixated on this?

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RolandDeschain wrote:
Peaches, I am not scared of religion. Far from it. What I am, is tired of HEARING about it. It's annoying.


You remind me of John Morgan. He could have just ignored the trolls on the ESPN boards. But I get the impression that he spent so many sleepless nights gnashing his teeth over the very thought of their ignorance, deliberately visiting those boards to slowly stoke his self-righteous indignation, that eventually he felt compelled to build a community around a false sense of intellectual elitism just to try and show up the trolls. And it eventually it bit him in the butt. When all he had to do was ignore the trolls.

Forgive me, but I'm finding a hard time envisioning a real-life scenario where you are unable to simply tune out the spiritual beliefs of others. I hope you weren't that high school dropout who nabbed a second job as a church janitor and then was shocked to find himself surrounded by spiritual influences. Do you live in a drafty apartment right next to a megachurch? Have your car radio somehow stuck on K-LOVE? Handle accounts for Westboro? What has you so fixated on this?


I'd love to know this as well

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Peaches, I am not scared of religion. Far from it. What I am, is tired of HEARING about it. It's annoying.


You remind me of John Morgan. He could have just ignored the trolls on the ESPN boards. But I get the impression that he spent so many sleepless nights gnashing his teeth over the very thought of their ignorance, deliberately visiting those boards to slowly stoke his self-righteous indignation, that eventually he felt compelled to build a community around a false sense of intellectual elitism just to try and show up the trolls. And it eventually it bit him in the butt. When all he had to do was ignore the trolls.

Forgive me, but I'm finding a hard time envisioning a real-life scenario where you are unable to simply tune out the spiritual beliefs of others. I hope you weren't that high school dropout who nabbed a second job as a church janitor and then was shocked to find himself surrounded by spiritual influences. Do you live in a drafty apartment right next to a megachurch? Have your car radio somehow stuck on K-LOVE? Handle accounts for Westboro? What has you so fixated on this?


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Does this answer your question?


And now this all makes sense. Roland will get back to us on this when he recovers from the aneurysm.

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Sums it up pretty well, for me.




If only atheist could practice what they preach.


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continuing the circle, why is it ok for you to tell them to shut up about it, but not for them to tell you to shut up about them shutting up?

It is ok for them to tell me to shut up. They never do, though. See, they just don't have much ammunition to use against me because I never tell them they should be atheist, or attribute anything to being atheist. I don't walk around going "Oh yeah, nailed that <random whatever>, praise be to lack of God!" while pointing to the sky, or anything.

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Oh Roland... you make my heart sing.

Lol, who says we have to disagree on everything? ;)

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You remind me of John Morgan. He could have just ignored the trolls on the ESPN boards. But I get the impression that he spent so many sleepless nights gnashing his teeth over the very thought of their ignorance, deliberately visiting those boards to slowly stoke his self-righteous indignation, that eventually he felt compelled to build a community around a false sense of intellectual elitism just to try and show up the trolls. And it eventually it bit him in the butt. When all he had to do was ignore the trolls.

Forgive me, but I'm finding a hard time envisioning a real-life scenario where you are unable to simply tune out the spiritual beliefs of others. I hope you weren't that high school dropout who nabbed a second job as a church janitor and then was shocked to find himself surrounded by spiritual influences. Do you live in a drafty apartment right next to a megachurch? Have your car radio somehow stuck on K-LOVE? Handle accounts for Westboro? What has you so fixated on this?

I realize that it probably doesn't seem this way, but it barely affects my daily life. I spend VERY little time thinking about religious people, or things they do that annoy me. I saw this picture posted by someone on Google+, laughingly agreed, and posted it here because I found it funny and I agree with it, by and large. When I do discuss this, it tends to be vehemently. Whenever I see an NFL player during a game do the "Thank God finger-point", nary a shadow even crosses my face. It's if they do more than that, like kneel down in the end zone and do the 10-second-prayer thing, that annoys me.

Some of these guys will sit there and make their teammates stand around waiting for them to finish before they can congratulate them. That's when I think "give me a fucking break, get over your false humbleness and thank those that busted their ass to help you get that play". Attributing your performance to God in practically every interview in front of a camera is annoying, too. I'm watching football, and despite the fact that it's Sunday, I'm not here to have you tell me it's the original gangsta that goes by the name of GOD that got you that TD, when my own two eyes saw you make a good play, not walk on water. I'm pretty sure a lot of these types, their ego literally gets off on attributing great plays to God.

As far as tuning out the religious beliefs of others; where did I say or imply that I can't? I typically do. I tend not to, on PURPOSE, when it gets what I consider to be excessive. Literally about 99% of the maternal side of my family is very religious. I'm talking church every Sunday, the women preaching in choirs on Sunday, some of them teaching Sunday School, bringing baked goods, etc. The whole shebang. I get along with them very well, even though some of them can't help but bring up religion in regular conversation. I let my annoyance of in-your-face religious preaching annoy me to a great degree occasionally and semi-regularly, but only for very short periods. Think of it like a short fuse. Burns brightly, but quickly expires.

This may surprise you, Montana, but I actually lived through junior high and most of high school in a rental house, in rural Wisconsin, that we rented from the church we went to. The back entrance to the church was literally 25 feet from the side of my house. Here it is on Google Maps, if you're curious. http://goo.gl/maps/lFWCg I grew up going to that church the whole time I was in Wisconsin, (basically, the 90s) and I truly believed in God until around the age of 12-13. I started questioning things privately to myself, and eventually I was agnostic by around 15, and atheist by the time I was 18 or 19. I had a "good Lutheran upbringing", and I stopped believing in God of my own accord. I've never lived in a drafty or low-end apartment.

I'm not fixated on or obsessed about religion, but when something comes up such as a pic on my G+ feed that I find funny, or that I agree with, etc.; sure, I'll make a post about it. John Morgan may very well have had trouble falling asleep because of his troll obsession. I, however, stopped having trouble sleeping once I came to my own opinion (see how I label it as opinion, not fact, or 'truthful realization', or any other religious dig?) that I wasn't sure God existed sometime around 8th grade. There was a time around then where I did lay awake in bed at night for a while, thinking God and religion in general through and through, though.

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Does this answer your question?


And now this all makes sense. Roland will get back to us on this when he recovers from the aneurysm.

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Just like how that innocent bystander on the strip in Vegas is dead because she LET that gangster hit her with stray bullets. I promise you I could continually annoy you face-to-face if I wanted to, long after you wanted it to stop. :)

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If only atheist could practice what they preach.

I do. I never tell anyone else what they should or should not believe, and I never attribute anything to atheism, like a winning lottery ticket, or the Soda Stream machine I won at the Kirkland Uncorked wine festival last summer. Show me where I'm wrong, since you clearly believe otherwise; likely just an assumption because, since tons of other people "demonstrate" their religion to others, I surely must do the same with my lack of religion.


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I especially hate it when I see a bunch of them standing around praying over some dude that got his neck broke on the 50 yard line.....who do they think they ARE?

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