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 Post subject: Nerd-Off: Django vs Rails
 Post Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:00 am 
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I'm about a year off from finishing my programming degree (Yeah, yeah, I go back to school and reinvent a lot). The curriculum itself is a bit dated... well, a lot dated. I'm going through quite possibly the worst class I've EVER been through at the moment. My textbook, printed in 2013 and costing 90 bucks, actually spends a chapter rambling on about Firefox 2 vs Internet Explorer 7.

I'm looking at adding a language+framework, and I'm looking in particular at Python and Ruby. Now, from what I can tell it's almost a toss-up of varying pros and cons as to which is 'Better', and I'm not really interested in that debate. I'm just curious who prefers which and why without trying to get into The Fight.

Comparison job market might be worth talking about, too, though just talking about pure numbers PHP is going to blow both of 'em away, so it's not JUST about employability after graduation.


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A friend of mine that makes well into 6 figures as a Linux software developer would say Python.

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 Post subject: Re: Nerd-Off: Django vs Rails
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RolandDeschain wrote:
A friend of mine that makes well into 6 figures as a Linux software developer would say Python.


Rackspace is right down the street... they seem pretty Python friendly. (Though, weirdly, there's quite a few postings for Ruby developers with the caveat that they should be willing to learn Python, heh.)


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Python is a must, and if you can build with JS, you're going to be set for a long time as so many things run client side now.

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 Post subject: Re: Nerd-Off: Django vs Rails
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SonicHawk wrote:
Python is a must, and if you can build with JS, you're going to be set for a long time as so many things run client side now.


Been having waaaay too much fun with JQuery.


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Django is the best web framework in existence, bar none. It has loads of moving parts and is a total bitch to properly tune, but it is capable of high concurrency due to the nature of Python's ability to pre-compile and cache opcodes natively. PHP is definitely worth knowing for its popularity and high functionality, but Python and Java are still the king for high concurrency back end work.

If you want to have marketability, go with PHP. If you want to be a systems engineering god, go with Python, Java, and Django as the framework/CME.

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 Post subject: Re: Nerd-Off: Django vs Rails
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Well, PHP is a given with my program -- Next semester is loaded down with a ton of it.

Fall '13:
Class 1: PHP/MySQL
Class 2: Straight-up SQL
Class 3: VB.NET (Meh.)
Class 4: Linux+/LPIC

Semester after that, double down on PHP and .NET. Spent a semester with Java -- comparing to the C++ afterward... Initially liked C++ better for syntax, then it started to feel clunky when delving a bit more into OOP, while Java was definitely friendlier. Between Python and Ruby so far, I think I -prefer- Ruby's syntax (Those for loops are great, for example). VB.NET syntax I haaaaaate.

In conclusion, I think I -like- more truncated syntax and don't care how cryptic it ends up seeming. But syntax -really- isn't that that big of a deal. Interesting to hear about Django, as so far I've seem to hear more people going on about Rails, but the side-by-side comparison really doesn't seem to merit it.


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 Post subject: Re: Nerd-Off: Django vs Rails
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The web's filled with stories like this one; replace Ruby on Rails with X, see big performance improvements. Just sayin'.

https://blog.twitter.com/2011/twitter-s ... -3x-faster

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