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 Post subject: Gangster Squad
 Post Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:21 am 
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I just bought this movie and watched it last night.. Supposedly a real life account of the life and times of Irish Gangster Mickey Cohen.. Who along with Bugsy Seigel attempted to take over LA in the 40's... After the Assasination of Bugsy Seigel , Mickey Cohen successfully took over LA, owned many brothels and gambling houses, along with most of the burbank police and judges.. Having survived 12 assasination attempts and several trials, ( he was the origninal Teflon Don ) he was finally brought down for tax evasion , later released, he died in 1976 peacefully at home.. The movie will have you believe the Gangster Squad was responsible for his demise, but this is misleading.. They were respsonible the destroying a good part of his empire, buy burning down and destroying his businesses and arresting the members that worked under him.. But it was the bean counters of the IRS that ultimately finished him off for good.

I thought the movie was good, very Hollywood, and not historically accurate, but i found it very entertaining, and would reccommend it.. Big Fan of Josh Brolin and Sean Penn's work..

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Nice. I remember thinking the trailer was awesome, but never did see it. Probably because they removed that scene where the guys open up on the movie theater audience because of the real-world shooting? I hate it when movie studios do that kind of crap.

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This movie was bad and ridiculously inacurate.


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I thought the movie was good, very Hollywood, and not historically accurate,

What, a gangster movie isn't historically accurate? Next you'll try to tell me that Eliot Ness didn't really throw Frank Nitti off a roof during Capone's trial.

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Haven't seen it and probably won't. The name Mickey Cohen sounds more Jewish than Irish though. Us Irishmen are always getting a bad wrap. And yes, there are four of us here and a fifth.


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I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, it was over the top and everyone had an IQ of like 40. Also, are you sure Cohen was Irish? I know he was Jewish but I didn't think he was also Irish. I guess he could be on one side though, but he's much more famous for being in the Jewish Mafia.


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are you sure Cohen was Irish?
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I guess he could be on one side though


A 40 IQ'er could figure that one out. lol.


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Mickey Cohen was from an Orthodox Jewish family in Brooklyn. His mother was from Kiev, Ukraine.

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Only good thing in that movie was...

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Also, are you sure Cohen was Irish? I know he was Jewish but I didn't think he was also Irish. I guess he could be on one side though, but he's much more famous for being in the Jewish Mafia.


You do realize that Judaism is a religion, right? Anybody can go become a Jew if they want to, regardless of ethnicity; just like anybody can go become a Catholic or a Protestant.

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Also, are you sure Cohen was Irish? I know he was Jewish but I didn't think he was also Irish. I guess he could be on one side though, but he's much more famous for being in the Jewish Mafia.


You do realize that Judaism is a religion, right? Anybody can go become a Jew if they want to, regardless of ethnicity; just like anybody can go become a Catholic or a Protestant.



True but Irish (not to stereotype but assuming catholic) gangsters don't convert to Judaism mid-crime spree.


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True but Irish (not to stereotype but assuming catholic) gangsters don't convert to Judaism mid-crime spree.


Well, yeah; but they could, lol. Hell, in a manner of speaking, I'd say people regularly forsake their religion when they choose to do things that go against their religion. Like murder, steal, rape, beat spouses/kids, etc. I always did find the idea of religious/Catholic Italian gangsters to be highly hypocritical, haha. Murder on Saturday night, church on Sunday morning. How charming.

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RolandDeschain wrote:
therealjohncarlson wrote:
Also, are you sure Cohen was Irish? I know he was Jewish but I didn't think he was also Irish. I guess he could be on one side though, but he's much more famous for being in the Jewish Mafia.


You do realize that Judaism is a religion, right? Anybody can go become a Jew if they want to, regardless of ethnicity; just like anybody can go become a Catholic or a Protestant.


Yes... I do realize that. But I also realize the name "Cohen" is a very traditional Judaic name dating back to priests in Jurusalem. So.. I think it's safe to say his ancestors on at least one side of his family are Jewish.


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therealjohncarlson wrote:
I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, it was over the top and everyone had an IQ of like 40. Also, are you sure Cohen was Irish? I know he was Jewish but I didn't think he was also Irish. I guess he could be on one side though, but he's much more famous for being in the Jewish Mafia.


you are correct, typo... He was Jewish not Irish.. my bad.

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hawker84 wrote:
therealjohncarlson wrote:
I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, it was over the top and everyone had an IQ of like 40. Also, are you sure Cohen was Irish? I know he was Jewish but I didn't think he was also Irish. I guess he could be on one side though, but he's much more famous for being in the Jewish Mafia.


you are correct, typo... He was Jewish not Irish.. my bad.



If I'm not mistaken they tried to play him off as an Irish gangster. I cant remember that or not. I do know there was no mention of him being Jewish.


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If you read his bio , it states he comes from Jewish decent, i believe on his mothers side.

As far as the Irish thing that might be true , they may have made some reference to him being Irish in the movie, maybe that's how it popped in my head, can't remember.

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CALIHAWK1 wrote:
hawker84 wrote:
therealjohncarlson wrote:
I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, it was over the top and everyone had an IQ of like 40. Also, are you sure Cohen was Irish? I know he was Jewish but I didn't think he was also Irish. I guess he could be on one side though, but he's much more famous for being in the Jewish Mafia.


you are correct, typo... He was Jewish not Irish.. my bad.



If I'm not mistaken they tried to play him off as an Irish gangster. I cant remember that or not. I do know there was no mention of him being Jewish.


I remember one line in the movie about him being a self-loathing Jew or something like that. So it was definitely mentioned at least once.


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