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 Post subject: Re: old school vs. new school
 Post Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:05 pm 
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That my man, is "Retirement Home" not Old School.


The original white emcee! You guys don't even know what 'old' means... the 80s are still 'new school'.


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If the performer's voice has no MELODY, than they ain't singing.
If they're essentially reading poetry, it ain't singing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but rappers read, not sing. Right?
So rap is a performance alternative for those who can't carry a tune... right?

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 Post subject: Re: old school vs. new school
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Explain, oh young ones, what differentiates Rap and Hip Hop?
Seems to be the same to me.

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Rap is part of hip hop. Rapping is not singing. Music is music whether you love it or hate it, whether it's good or bad. People who make music are musicians whether talented or not.

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If there is accompanying melody, it's definitely music.
If not, it's spoken poetry, no?

What element of the set of "hip hop" is absent in rap?

I plan on allowing Zebski to indoctrinate me on hip hop and rap in the next few years, for which I'll buy him Hamburger @ Mary's, if she's still open.

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If there is accompanying melody, it's definitely music.
If not, it's spoken poetry, no?


What about rhythm? Are drums not music without and accompanying melody?

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If there is accompanying melody, it's definitely music.
If not, it's spoken poetry, no?


What about rhythm? Are drums not music without and accompanying melody?


Old guys don't get it. No point in arguing.


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If there is accompanying melody, it's definitely music.
If not, it's spoken poetry, no?


What about rhythm? Are drums not music without and accompanying melody?


Old guys don't get it. No point in arguing.


They get it. They just don't like to admit it. ;)

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[quote="Rocket"]If there is accompanying melody, it's definitely music.
If not, it's spoken poetry, no?


What about rhythm? Are drums not music without and accompanying melody?


Old guys don't get it. No point in arguing.


They get it. They just don't like to admit it. ;)[/quote]

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 Post subject: Re: old school vs. new school
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Most of the new artists are way too over-produced for my tastes.

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Zebulon Dak wrote:
Rap is part of hip hop. Rapping is not singing. Music is music whether you love it or hate it, whether it's good or bad. People who make music are musicians whether talented or not.


Word. I really don't like rap. Never have. The closest I've gotten to liking it is the Beastie Boys. But I can appreciate the musical talent from the great musicians, even rappers.

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Rap is part of hip hop. Rapping is not singing. Music is music whether you love it or hate it, whether it's good or bad. People who make music are musicians whether talented or not.


Word. I really don't like rap. Never have. The closest I've gotten to liking it is the Beastie Boys. But I can appreciate the musical talent from the great musicians, even rappers.


I can totally understand that because I used to love rap with my whole heart and now I pretty much can't stand it.

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 Post subject: Re: old school vs. new school
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If there is accompanying melody, it's definitely music.
If not, it's spoken poetry, no?


What about rhythm? Are drums not music without and accompanying melody?


Drums comprise every single beat note in a musical piece.

I chart out everything for all of my students and it looks just like a written piece but without notes.

If you think drums do not make music, and are easy to play, then I invite you to come and sit in with my band..... :lol:

Oh, and BTW. Many studio engineers require drums to be tuned to the key the song will be recorded in. Drum machines do not have this ability, nor do drum machines have emotion, AI has tried to make it so but, nope.

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 Post subject: Re: old school vs. new school
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Like mouth kissing a hooker.



What's wrong with mouth kissing hookers?


When I think old school I think what was old school in my youth. Sugar Hill Gang etc. Then the stuff I grew up on (ghetto boys, NWA) 90's is just old. Stuff coming out today just sucks.


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