Music sales are not affected by web piracy, study finds

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  • SacHawk2.0 wrote:
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    Zebulon Dak wrote:Once music or video or data is created it exists and nobody has the right to control whether somebody is allowed to listen to it or watch it or use it or not. Good, reasonable, honest people know when & how to contribute monetarily to the people who put in the work to create it. It's the 21st century and that's how things work now. These are the new morals because the old ones don't fit anymore. There will always be people who misuse or take advantage of the system, just like there always has been.


    So any politician can use what ever music they want in their campaign and the artist/songwriter can't get them to stop.

    Good to know!

    Love these new morals!


    No. It's different if someone is using it for personal gain. Just like if someone is selling bootleg movies and music from the trunk of their car.


    Right. Public broadcast, advertisement, selling something that doesn't belong to you are different situations.
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  • DTexHawk wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Once music or video or data is created it exists and nobody has the right to control whether somebody is allowed to listen to it or watch it or use it or not. Good, reasonable, honest people know when & how to contribute monetarily to the people who put in the work to create it. It's the 21st century and that's how things work now. These are the new morals because the old ones don't fit anymore. There will always be people who misuse or take advantage of the system, just like there always has been.


    So any politician can use what ever music they want in their campaign and the artist/songwriter can't get them to stop.

    Good to know!

    Love these new morals!


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  • Largent80 wrote:This is the same guy that said Russell Wilson sucked.


    Did he? DTex, is this true? Did you pull a "cboom"?
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:This is the same guy that said Russell Wilson sucked.


    Did he? DTex, is this true? Did you pull a "cboom"?


    To be fair, a lot of people didn't believe in RW3 till after the Pats game, some it took even longer. They're all idiots, don't get me wrong, but there were a lot of them.
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  • My bad, it was Daytoman, but Dtex still sux.
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  • You confused a Texan with an Oklahoman? Oh man. DTex's gonna be pissed.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:You confused a Texan with an Oklahoman? Oh man. DTex's gonna be pissed.


    Largent80 is always confused, so no prob.
    And this post is not directed at anyone personally.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:You confused a Texan with an Oklahoman? Oh man. DTex's gonna be pissed.


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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    DTexHawk wrote:So can I quote you whenever you reply on a thread that someone is doing something that is wrong/illegal? ;)


    It's impossible for there to be different degrees, or levels of severity with things with you, isn't it? Tiniest infraction: DEATH PENALTY. Murdering 17 people in cold blood: DEATH PENALTY.

    :roll:


    Not at all, I already said we all draw our lines in different places.

    And really, is me giving you sh*t for the "tiniest infraction" the same as the DEATH PENALTY. ;)

    And just for the record, I am against the death penalty for the 17 yr old killer. And I don't find any joy by wishing him harm.
    And this post is not directed at anyone personally.
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  • My arms are hairy. I'm gonna shave em and send the hair to DTex. He can either bail them up into a pacifier or glue them to areas that he has none.
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  • Largent80 wrote:My arms are hairy. I'm gonna shave em and send the hair to DTex. He can either bail them up into a pacifier or glue them to areas that he has none.


    This will now be added to the memorable quotes thread
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  • DTexHawk wrote:And just for the record, I am against the death penalty for the 17 yr old killer. And I don't find any joy by wishing him harm.


    See, now I don't even believe that you're a Texan.
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  • Back on the original conversation in my opinion anyone that believes pirating music doesn't affect the sales/profits to the artist of same should look into the vast lake areas being sold in Utah/Arizona.

    You could get a bargain on beach front to build on.

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  • The Radish wrote:Back on the original conversation in my opinion anyone that believes pirating music doesn't affect the sales/profits to the artist of same should look into the vast lake areas being sold in Utah/Arizona.

    You could get a bargain on beach front to build on.

    :P


    Well, you could always check out the study.

    Seriously though, the digital age changed the music industry and it did affect record sales. But you have to look at the current state of the industry and accept that it's not going to get back to the way things were. It's important that musicians and record companies stay up to date if they want to continue making money, because there's still plenty of it out there to be had. And the people who are doing it right are still making lots and lots of it.
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  • The Radish wrote:Back on the original conversation in my opinion anyone that believes pirating music doesn't affect the sales/profits to the artist of same should look into the vast lake areas being sold in Utah/Arizona.

    You could get a bargain on beach front to build on.

    :P


    Of course it affects the sales and profits. The question is, does the massive extra exposure lead to even more profits than they would have had without the pirating and its huge extra exposure, or not? Serious statement/question.
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  • Throwdown wrote:-read this while illegally downloading music-

    :)


    Dude. Never admit to a crime in writing, no matter how f'in' stupid said law might be.
    It's a federal crime, they're tenacious and essentially boundary-less.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:
    The Radish wrote:Back on the original conversation in my opinion anyone that believes pirating music doesn't affect the sales/profits to the artist of same should look into the vast lake areas being sold in Utah/Arizona.

    You could get a bargain on beach front to build on.

    :P


    Well, you could always check out the study.

    Seriously though, the digital age changed the music industry and it did affect record sales. But you have to look at the current state of the industry and accept that it's not going to get back to the way things were. It's important that musicians and record companies stay up to date if they want to continue making money, because there's still plenty of it out there to be had. And the people who are doing it right are still making lots and lots of it.


    There are also a number of examples from authors who put their work out for free and challenged readers to "steal" their books. As I recall, they all recorded huge up-ticks in sales afterward. Like I said earlier, the number one killer of artists and authors is not piracy, but rather obscurity.
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  • release parties for albums that were leaked a week or two ahead of time are always kinda.......awkward :D
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