To NASA doubters, watch this video with Neil deGrasse Tyson sound clips from his speech to Congress about NASA funding: (everyone else, too)



iOS users: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... lGemHL5vLY

Do this math... $526 billion divided by 300 million people. Would you rather have that cash back or have been told we made it to the moon?
Me too!!!

Any other claims of "NASA has helped in this or that area" will never be accompanied by the details of the invention. You are just told, Yep NASA helped with wireless radios.

Its just not enough bang for the buck!

I vote for the moon.

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Really? Give me 5 bucks and I will tell you I went to Mars and give you some questionable photos of my trip as well

Wait-o-minute, I take it all back. I just called NASA and asked about aliens, and they said...
"Aliens do exist. They're just waiting for Chuck Norris to die before they attack"

So if you add the moons photos plus the Chuck Norris information then YES I can justify not feeding hungry children for the sake of NASA. EFFING STUPID!

Spokane, you are a God-troll, my friend. Thank you. I want you to post more.

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Peaches, I don't know what a God troll is, but I do know you are the one member I can not beat so I will not argue with you

Peaches, if you want some troll man-meat in your mouth, just ask him.

Roland is different, He is ok with "going insane and is ok with people dying" over a nfl trade, so be careful

I mean, just look at his sig!!! He's the troll master.

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In all fairness, the sig is true! Obama spoke of a "Jew tax" and Bush flat out said He is anti Jew. Its good to know what people are thinking.

Back on topic.

We don't know if there are other planets or not due to the lack of light on the planet.

Ya, but think of all the blue chicks we could score with! Put me down for blue chicks! Giggity!

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When the Thunder play the Grizzlies, I'll be cheering for a tornado.

As a nerd i've always wished it was like Mass Effect except minus the death and wars and reapers and such... you know cause that'd suck.

Seriously though, i wish i was born later on so that i could be apart of a space exploration team. how BAD ASS would that be?!?!?

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Im late getting in..havent had time for real posts..

First on the OP... this isnt the good news we'd like it to be in my opinion. First, yes, we can imagine situations where life exists on planets orbiting red dwarves..but life evolving there seems to be problematic. Red dwarves come about when a "normal" star first goes nova, then shrinks up. Because of its low energy output its "Goldilocks zone" (the zone where life could exist because there is the possibility of liquid water) is quite near the star. But when the star went Nova all the inner planets were engulfed, just like the Earth will be one day by our own sun. So.. after the star recedes into a dwarf.. you would then need a (presumably rocky) planet to move into a nearer orbit for some reason..then need it to be stable there. All the moving around..and the transfer of the planet from the outer solar system..is going to reduce the odds of other things that help life evolve, if they are not strictly necessary.

And if all THAT is in error, then in fact what this discovery may point to is not it being more likely that we are not alone, but quite the opposite. Another 100 billion potential life sheltering planets out there, and still.. despite that if intelligent life is common there must be intelligent species with billions of years of history.. we hear deafening silence. It is the one confirmed fact we know. No matter where we listen or observe, we dont find any sign of life anywhere. The Fermi paradox hangs ever heavier as we learn more and more about our own galaxy...

To address some of the comments.. its not a "huge" assumption that life elsewhere would be carbon based. The complex chemistry presumably needed for complex life needs a base that can be combined into many different compounds easily. Carbon really has no rival, though some theorize that silicon might do in a pinch.

As far as the idea that it could be "anything" that is moving in front of the stars.. that shows ignorance on several levels. First, it didnt happen that something passed in front of a star. No. Astronomers laid out a theory.. with predictions. IF a planet passed in front of a star..what would we observe? Then they go out and observe. If it matches up with predictions, then for the time being the best info we have says its a planet..and it would be based on not one observation, but a combination of things. It notably COULDNT be a meteor.. a meteor would be too small to show up. Remember too that many of these planets have been measured TWO ways as well.. by the blocking of light and by the gravitational effect it has on its planet star. If something blocks like like something planet sized would..orbits like a planet would.. has the mass of a planet .. guess what? Its a planet. Unless you have any other hypothesis that fits the data?

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Couldn't agree more, Ross. The Fermi Paradox is really the main reason why I believe we are alone in the observable universe.

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I've never heard of this Fermi thing... but now that I've read about it, it makes me sad. What I chilling thought.

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Its far outside my specialty but Ive spent.. countless hours at universities I visit discussing it with different professors, and Ive read a handful of books on the paradox.. discussing solutions to the Paradox. None hold up except.. we are alone. But it doesnt make me sad.. it makes me feel..responsible. It gives me a sense of purpose, of duty. I want to do well with my life because in all of this galaxy it may be that I am part of the only life that exists, I am part of the galaxy's voice..the part of existence that can actually know there IS an existence. Its an honor..a privilege that I want to take full advantage of. I dont want to waste a single day I have of my LIFE.

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“If somebody thinks they're a hedgehog, presumably you just give them a mirror and a few pictures of hedgehogs and tell them to sort it out for themselves.”

That's very eloquent, and well stated Veta.

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Meh. There's no more Star Trek for me anyway.

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