Largent80 wrote:

Zebulon Dak wrote:John Mayer can shred!!

Your body is a wonderland.....Ummmmm...No

Throwdown wrote:Eminem

Zebulon Dak wrote:

Largent80 wrote:

Zebulon Dak wrote:John Mayer can shred!!

Your body is a wonderland.....Ummmmm...No

He makes shitty music and he's a douche bag but he can shred. It's not debatable.

Soppie wrote:Van Halen, ACDC, and Ozzy. Maybe its just because my local rock station still plays them like they are still relevant, but I cannot stand them when they come on the radio. So overplayed..

Rush sucks too.

Eminem is the best rap artist of all time.

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

m0ng0 wrote:

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

Buckethead

Soppie wrote:
Eminem is the best rap artist of all time.

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

By the way f*ck Moron 5, Coldplay, Lil Wayne, One Direction, Foo Fighters and that ga damned Gangnam Style mofo.

Largent80 wrote:

rastahawk wrote:Speaking of shredding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like its still the same guys that we associate with shredding are still "the" guys. There's nobody new on the scene. Anytime there's something on about guitar playing its either Slash, Satriani, Clapton, Vai, Santana or some other 70's-80's guitar guru. No wonder the young people don't listen to it, its shit their dad's listen to.

By the way f*ck Moron 5, Coldplay, Lil Wayne, One Direction, Foo Fighters and that ga damned Gangnam Style mofo.

You can blame this on the hip hop, sampling video game generation. People are too lazy to actually pick up an instrument and have the dicipline to takes to become a master.

The sad thing is, there are probably thousands out there that have the ability but don't even realize it because it is so much easier to sample and scratch rather than actually develope talent.

Zebulon Dak wrote:Sampling and scratching are talents that require a different skill set than playing a string or wind instrument. They're actually much more similar to playing the drums.

Largent80 wrote:

Zebulon Dak wrote:Sampling and scratching are talents that require a different skill set than playing a string or wind instrument. They're actually much more similar to playing the drums.

You are a bigger idiot than I once thought. Congrats on your graduation.

pehawk wrote:The Marshall Mathers LP stands up in terms of brilliance and importance as much as any Robert Johnson, Stones, Patti Smith, G n R, Bowie, Motown, etc LP. It's genius and HUGELY important.

dunceface wrote:I understand your pining for the good ol' days, but its called musical evolution and I'm sorry it makes you sad

dunceface wrote:I understand your pining for the good ol' days, but its called musical evolution and I'm sorry it makes you sad

Zebulon Dak wrote:

pehawk wrote:The Marshall Mathers LP stands up in terms of brilliance and importance as much as any Robert Johnson, Stones, Patti Smith, G n R, Bowie, Motown, etc LP. It's genius and HUGELY important.

Not only was the album a critically acclaimed masterpiece and hugely influential (although some [see: me] would argue negatively) on the future of music, but between Infinite, Slim Shady & Marshall Mathers, even the Eminem Show, Em was one of the most, if not the most, skilled rappers & lyricists in the game. He was rapping circles around just about everybody between 98 & 02 or 03.

pehawk wrote:Largent80, a classical composer would find your work "cute and child-like". So....

Zebulon Dak wrote:Nobody's a musician unless they use drumsticks.

Largent80 wrote:

Zebulon Dak wrote:Nobody's a musician unless they use drumsticks.

Oops....you're bad....Sorry Zeb, But I also teach guitar, and have a published book on guitar instruction. In other words scratchmeister....I SHRED. sorry to fuck up your whole deal.

Zebulon Dak wrote:Aesop Rock by a lot for me.

Throwdown wrote:I don't care for Eminems music, but I'll agree that his first 3-4 albums were influential in today's Hip Hop, you ask any of these rappers ages 23-27 who has had an impact on them as an artist they'll most likely say Eminem & Jay-Z, it's almost a given.

Where Eminem lost me at an early age, was the content of his music. No hate at all, but it wasn't for me.

& Haha @ Dunce about Aesop Rock, but that could be said about a lot of underground rappers.

pehawk wrote:Em's lyrics on the MM LP, 95% of the songs, had a social commentary/social satire vibe. I know art is subjective, but that's what I want from artists, social commentary and messages. Dont get me wrong, sometimes I'll reach for something bragadocious (mirror, mirror by Big Gipp), sometimes violent (Triumph by Wu), sometimes fun (five duece four trey by Backbone), but mostly I want to hear their stance on things.

Wonder why I like message boards?

Throwdown wrote:

pehawk wrote:Em's lyrics on the MM LP, 95% of the songs, had a social commentary/social satire vibe. I know art is subjective, but that's what I want from artists, social commentary and messages. Dont get me wrong, sometimes I'll reach for something bragadocious (mirror, mirror by Big Gipp), sometimes violent (Triumph by Wu), sometimes fun (five duece four trey by Backbone), but mostly I want to hear their stance on things.

Wonder why I like message boards?

He lost me at the psycho wannabe stuff, but it's been years since I've heard the MM LP, that came out when I was like...10 or 11, god damn we're getting old

Zebulon Dak wrote:Em's biggest mistake, imo, was trying to be gangster. When he wasn't trying to be tough he was hilarious.

pehawk wrote:

Zebulon Dak wrote:Em's biggest mistake, imo, was trying to be gangster. When he wasn't trying to be tough he was hilarious.

50 too! Ever hear, I think its called "Who Shot ya" by 50? I think it was pre-shotup time. He was actually fairly whimsical and clever.

I love Lil Wayne, but also blame him for recent bad trends in hip-hop. He needs to move to Atlanta for awhile to get a bit more musicianship.