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 Post subject: Re: Car Max?
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:31 am 
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We test drove a 2013 Ford Escape SE with the 2.0 turbo engine yesterday. Man, that machine drives awesome for what it is, and it feels like you are piloting a spaceship. We are considering pulling the trigger. Only in RED

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 Post subject: Re: Car Max?
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:39 am 
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Car Max: High prices with no wiggling or haggling. Limited finance options requiring high down payments. Too many overhead costs and mouths to feed. Vehicles purchased at auctions and quickly run through the shop to seal leaks and detail them. Mechanics in their shops are dealership rejects who smoke too much weed on lunch breaks. Company policies dictate EVERYTHING personnel do and canned responses to every question.

Buy your used cars from a mainstream new-car dealership off their trade-in lots. Go to a Lexus, Range Rover, Jaguar, Cadillac, Mercedes (et al) dealership and look at what the affluent types have traded in to get into one of the more expensive luxury vehicles. Affluent clients tend to keep MUCH better care of their vehicles than the average person. Cars/trucks traded in by folks who never have had a problem coming up with the cash to fix them, are the best vehicles to find. Period.


I've always found the auto industry to be highly dishonest and frustrating. It most of my experiences they are really intent on screwing you. The sad part about it all is that it constitutes a major purchase in peoples lives and yet they are hell bent on kicking you in the nuts.

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 Post subject: Re: Car Max?
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:46 am 
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HoustonHawk82 wrote:
Car Max: High prices with no wiggling or haggling. Limited finance options requiring high down payments. Too many overhead costs and mouths to feed. Vehicles purchased at auctions and quickly run through the shop to seal leaks and detail them. Mechanics in their shops are dealership rejects who smoke too much weed on lunch breaks. Company policies dictate EVERYTHING personnel do and canned responses to every question.

Buy your used cars from a mainstream new-car dealership off their trade-in lots. Go to a Lexus, Range Rover, Jaguar, Cadillac, Mercedes (et al) dealership and look at what the affluent types have traded in to get into one of the more expensive luxury vehicles. Affluent clients tend to keep MUCH better care of their vehicles than the average person. Cars/trucks traded in by folks who never have had a problem coming up with the cash to fix them, are the best vehicles to find. Period.


All great information, though it's fair to mention that often times, vehicles traded into high end dealerships are sold into the auction circuit, even if that dealer has a pre-owned lot. When I bought my Infiniti, I applied a similar school of thought to yours and looked around at high end dealerships for pre-owned inventory. Most of the dealerships I visited sold most of their trade-ins on the auction circuit, allowing relatively few (typically just the best of the best) to make it to the pre-owned lot. The result was a car lot filled with $25k+ rides. They were more than willing to haggle, though, as I managed to roll away with my G35 for $16,500 cash (5k under their sticker price).

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 Post subject: Re: Car Max?
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:40 pm 
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We are actually going through our credit union which has a service that handles all the haggling and gets the best price by FAR and at 9.8 % apr.

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From what I gather, the availability of better-maintained vehicles really depends on what is actually moving in that particular geographic region. For example, down here in Texas, pickup trucks of all makes retain their value at an incredible rate. Not the best place to by one here, but if one ventures out, you can find the exact color and options you want with ease in this market.

I'm also seeing a spike in folks finding what they are looking for on eBay Motors. Surprisingly, shipping companies that specialize in cross-country moves of vehicles are not as expensive as some would be led to believe. Several of my clients have found specific cars for very fair prices using eBay anhd will swear its the best way to go. Lots of good pictures and info posted within the listings, and the protection of strict policies favoring the buyer.

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