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Re: Star Wars
Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:03 pm
  • For the record I was actually talking about my meat and two veg. I have no idea what Roland is talking about.
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    Me? As a diehard Christian, I'm not one for the pure humanism side. I'm actually with you there. That warm, happy universe that Trek portrays will never happen, and it's arrogance to think otherwise. But at least these shows tried to be about something. TNG had a lot of great episodes that managed to explore the human condition without being preachy. They tried to think. Yeah, X, IX, V, they all sucked, but they tried to say something. Identity and destiny in "Nemesis", conscience and integrity in "Insurrection", the search for God in "V"...big ideas, if perhaps badly executed.


    Being a Trek fan who saw the pilot episode when it first aired as a little kid, I can forgive you for missing the premise behind the "warm, happy universe". The premise is that once we take to the stars, all the resources of the universe become available for dirt cheap. Gold? Common. Food? You've seen the replicators. The point being, without life suddenly being a zero sum game and with the ability to relieve over population by colonization, the factors that inevitably lead to mans cruelty to man have been eliminated for the most part. So yes, this was envisioned as an idealist utopia.
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  • I know the idea quite well, thanks. It was scattered all through the franchise.

    Your argument relies on the idea that justifies humanism in the first place, that our flaws are generated by the conflicting need for material. I reject that theory.
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  • I bought like 3 Star Wars shirts last week. I own exactly 0 Star Trek shirts.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:58 pm
  • There needs to be more Chinese Jedi. ......I got nuthin, just wanted to participate. You guys seem to be having fun here.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:43 pm
  • I'm a Star Wars nerd, but you "EU is canon" nerds blow me out of the water. Is there gonna be World War III if the new movie doesn't even keep Leia's twins names (or what if she only has one kid)?
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:10 pm
  • 12evanf wrote:I'm a Star Wars nerd, but you "EU is canon" nerds blow me out of the water. Is there gonna be World War III if the new movie doesn't even keep Leia's twins names (or what if she only has one kid)?


    Hey, if you didn't get mad when there was no Ant Man in the Avengers movie, than this shouldn't even register on the nerd richter scale. As long as lightsabers still make that cool "wroom wroom" noise and there's no Jar Jar Binkses, I'll be totally geeked to go watch another Star Wars movie. Hopefully it'll be out right around the time my oldest kid is old enough to "get it".
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:52 pm
  • 12evanf wrote:I'm a Star Wars nerd, but you "EU is canon" nerds blow me out of the water. Is there gonna be World War III if the new movie doesn't even keep Leia's twins names (or what if she only has one kid)?


    Dude, minor changes are fine. I'm talking about major stuff. As in people that are alive who should be dead, or vice versa.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:00 pm
  • I'd actually be pissed if they changed the twins names. Unless they were awesome names like Ralnar and Thornak or something.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:21 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    12evanf wrote:I'm a Star Wars nerd, but you "EU is canon" nerds blow me out of the water. Is there gonna be World War III if the new movie doesn't even keep Leia's twins names (or what if she only has one kid)?


    Dude, minor changes are fine. I'm talking about major stuff. As in people that are alive who should be dead, or vice versa.


    Wait, is Boba Fett living canon?
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:22 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:I'd actually be pissed if they changed the twins names. Unless they were awesome names like Ralnar and Thornak or something.


    What if they were like Chris and Stephenie? That'd be cool, right?
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:23 pm
  • CANHawk wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:I'd actually be pissed if they changed the twins names. Unless they were awesome names like Ralnar and Thornak or something.


    What if they were like Chris and Stephenie? That'd be cool, right?


    Is that how Canadians spell Stephanie?
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:25 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:I'd actually be pissed if they changed the twins names. Unless they were awesome names like Ralnar and Thornak or something.


    Or Jesus and Banjo.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:42 pm
  • Jesus and Banjo would be awesome names for the twins. And no Jar-Jar Binks would be a major change. For the better.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:56 pm
  • 12evanf wrote:Wait, is Boba Fett living canon?


    Do you really want to know? If so, then...


    GIGANTIC SPOILER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!










    Yes, Fett is alive. He's still alive when Luke Skywalker's in his 60s, and Fett is like mid-70s if I recall correctly, as far forward as the Luke Skywalker era goes.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:57 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    12evanf wrote:Wait, is Boba Fett living canon?


    Do you really want to know? If so, then...


    GIGANTIC SPOILER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!










    Yes, Fett is alive. He's still alive when Luke Skywalker's in his 60s, and Fett is like mid-70s if I recall correctly, as far forward as the Luke Skywalker era goes.


    SPOILER




    Yeah I know, but that is stupid, because he's totally dead.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:16 pm
  • Nope, Fett lived.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:07 pm
  • Jango's dead. Sam Jackson chopped his head right the eff off his shoulders.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:15 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:
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    Zebulon Dak wrote:I'd actually be pissed if they changed the twins names. Unless they were awesome names like Ralnar and Thornak or something.


    What if they were like Chris and Stephenie? That'd be cool, right?


    Is that how Canadians spell Stephanie?

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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:48 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Jango's dead. Sam Jackson chopped his head right the eff off his shoulders.


    What's this got to do with Boba? Besides the fact that it shaped Boba's entire life and made him what he was, basically.
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Re: Star Wars
Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:24 pm
  • I hope JJ Abrams is reading this thread. If nothing else comes out of it, I hope that he includes 'yub-nub' in the next film.
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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:12 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:I hope JJ Abrams is reading this thread. If nothing else comes out of it, I hope that he includes 'yub-nub' in the next film.


    Let me be the first (and probably only) to say that I prefer the redone ending to ROTJ. Yub Nub was great, but the song John Wiliams conducted for the re-release is phenomenal. I won't argue for it, either you like it or you don't, and I totally understand if you don't. But I love it.

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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:49 am
  • Yub-nub > victory celebration.
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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:57 am
  • I totally want to go watch Phantom Menace now. Then ima go play that pod racing game on N64.

    The very best parts of the whole Star Wars experience IMO.
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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:50 pm
  • CANHawk wrote:I totally want to go watch Phantom Menace now. Then ima go play that pod racing game on N64.

    The very best parts of the whole Star Wars experience IMO.


    Don't you dare mention "Phantom Menace" with "very best parts of the whole Star Wars experience" ever again.

    EVER.
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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:52 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    CANHawk wrote:I totally want to go watch Phantom Menace now. Then ima go play that pod racing game on N64.

    The very best parts of the whole Star Wars experience IMO.


    Don't you dare mention "Phantom Menace" with "very best parts of the whole Star Wars experience" ever again.

    EVER.


    But he's exactly right. That pod racing game was better than any of the SNES Super Star Wars games, or KOTOR or any of the other Star Wars frnachise games, and Phantom Menace is EASILY the best of the six feature films. Liam Neeson played the best Jedi, and Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan > Alec Guinness' Obi Wan.
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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:59 pm
  • I have both KOTOR and the Pod racing N64 game, haven't played them in years though. May have to dig them up this week. What's the SW game where you play as Dash Rendar? A Han Solo type. I have it, but it's been so long I can't remember what it's called.
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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:36 pm
  • MLOhawks wrote:I have both KOTOR and the Pod racing N64 game, haven't played them in years though. May have to dig them up this week. What's the SW game where you play as Dash Rendar? A Han Solo type. I have it, but it's been so long I can't remember what it's called.


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Re: Star Wars
Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:11 pm
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    MLOhawks wrote:I have both KOTOR and the Pod racing N64 game, haven't played them in years though. May have to dig them up this week. What's the SW game where you play as Dash Rendar? A Han Solo type. I have it, but it's been so long I can't remember what it's called.


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    OMG that game was SO awesome too! KOTOR was awesome too. The Ebon Hawk was the shit!

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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:40 am
  • I do love the new ROTJ ending theme. Star Wars would not have been what it is without John Williams.
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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:52 pm
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:I do love the new ROTJ ending theme. Star Wars would not have been what it is without John Williams.


    The new ending is more epic, the original is more campy. I prefer the new one actually, but to each their own.
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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:36 pm
  • Oh of course! Thank you man. I used to play that game a lot back in the day.
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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:03 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Jango's dead. Sam Jackson chopped his head right the eff off his shoulders.


    What's this got to do with Boba? Besides the fact that it shaped Boba's entire life and made him what he was, basically.


    ATTENTION FANBOYS, THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT DISPARAGES THE NAME OF BOBA FETT, AND STAR WARS IN GENERAL

    Boba Fett is the most overrated character in the entire episodes 4-6 trilogy. He appears on maybe two dozen frames of film, has a whopping four lines of dialogue in the entire trilogy, and he gets his ass handed to him by a blind man. The most feared bounty hunter in the entirety of the Star Wars canon gets owned by a frigging blind man. Why this character has a dearth of idiotic fanboys dedicated to worshipping him, I will never know.

    Enough on that jackass.

    Star Wars sucks. The entire legacy was sullied by George Lucas' zeal to produce the most profitable, marketable films in history. The introduction of Jar Jar as a goon, suitable for occasional comic relief and appealing to the lucrative market of toddlers and kindergarteners, pretty much assured episode 1-3's utter suckitude. Any future movie featuring this character as anything other than perhaps a lightsaber test dummy would be similarly disastrous.
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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:34 pm
  • @Smokin': Yes, Fett's overrated. That's obvious. However, you can't let George Lucas's abortions (Episodes 1-3) ruin it because he would have ruined the original trilogy had he been able to. So, you like the original trilogy because bright people interfered with it and made it great, yes? Then why are you letting Lucas ruin other Star Wars stuff like the expanded universe? Forget Lucas's garbage. Just pretend he has never been involved with it, and you'll enjoy all the other stuff a lot more...

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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:37 pm
  • Don't worry Smokin. I hear the big villian for Ep. 7 is going to be an Ewok Sith Lord named Darth Scruffy.
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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:47 pm
  • SmokinHawk wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Jango's dead. Sam Jackson chopped his head right the eff off his shoulders.


    What's this got to do with Boba? Besides the fact that it shaped Boba's entire life and made him what he was, basically.


    ATTENTION FANBOYS, THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT DISPARAGES THE NAME OF BOBA FETT, AND STAR WARS IN GENERAL

    Boba Fett is the most overrated character in the entire episodes 4-6 trilogy. He appears on maybe two dozen frames of film, has a whopping four lines of dialogue in the entire trilogy, and he gets his ass handed to him by a blind man. The most feared bounty hunter in the entirety of the Star Wars canon gets owned by a frigging blind man. Why this character has a dearth of idiotic fanboys dedicated to worshipping him, I will never know.

    Enough on that jackass.

    Star Wars sucks. The entire legacy was sullied by George Lucas' zeal to produce the most profitable, marketable films in history. The introduction of Jar Jar as a goon, suitable for occasional comic relief and appealing to the lucrative market of toddlers and kindergarteners, pretty much assured episode 1-3's utter suckitude. Any future movie featuring this character as anything other than perhaps a lightsaber test dummy would be similarly disastrous.


    Because he looks cool and wears fresh kicks.

    I know a dude with a Fett tattoo :34853_doh:
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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:16 pm
  • @smokin. You forgot that he dies by falling into a big hole with teeth. Ewoks died more honorable deaths.

    But he busts some wicked rhymes...

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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:21 pm
  • Lol, Fett's Vette; I haven't seen that in so long. The song played to a bounty hunter in Star Wars Galaxies is better, though.
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Re: Star Wars
Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:53 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:Lol, Fett's Vette; I haven't seen that in so long. The song played to a bounty hunter in Star Wars Galaxies is better, though.


    Yep, it's pretty hi-larious. It's a damn shame the Fett had to die in something resembling a Gelgameck's vagina....
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