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 Post subject: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
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Despite saying last year that he wasn't going to do it, JJ Abrams is now being reported by some newsmagazine to be directing Ep 7 for Disney.

Something tells me that this is BS, but if so, hooraaaaaay this will get him off of Star Trek!

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I thought most people liked what he did with Star Trek? I haven't seen his Star Trek stuff, nor do I give a rat's ass about Star Trek. Star Wars, on the other hand, I'm definitely into.


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So... this Star Wars story is going to start Luke Skywalker with a troubled youth and daddy issues ( <- Holy crap, J.J Abrams is a genius. He's been setting up this up for years) who has to stop a future member of the Empire from destroying a planet with a black hole?

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I thought JJ Abrams would be a good candidate all along. People can complain, but he will not do anything near as bad as what Lucas recently did.


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I think they should let the guys from Titan AE do it.

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..., hooraaaaaay this will get him off of Star Trek!



That Trek movie was pure awesome. Actually I don't think I've met anyone who's thought otherwise.

If this rumour is true then I'm really excited to see what he can do with Star Wars. Based on what he did with Trek he would have been my first choice regardless. Star Trek is probably the only franchise that has a bible thicker than the Star Wars universe which ties the hands of writers yet he was able to deliver an awesome movie while staying true to the Trek universe.

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Abrams is a much better fit for Star Wars. It's more openly archetypal and spectacle-based, not as deep. I actually think he'll do very well there.

Who knows, maybe someone will ask him to do the next Indiana Jones, James Bond, and Battlestar Galactica films as well.

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Meh, Abrams brought an edge back to the hokeyness that we're the TNG films. It was pastuerized fodder, in a "shiny happy world where everyone smiles". Its fitting that the darkest one, Nemisis got the least praise.

And those old Trek films only hold up due camp and comfort. 2 and 3, good, but the rest, meh, okay at best.

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Meh, Abrams brought an edge back to the hokeyness that we're the TNG films. It was pastuerized fodder, in a "shiny happy world where everyone smiles". Its fitting that the darkest one, Nemisis got the least praise.

And those old Trek films only hold up due camp and comfort. 2 and 3, good, but the rest, meh, okay at best.


That's usually the only reason that AbramsTrek holds up for people: because it's not "Nemesis". If it were an ordinary Michael Bay film, it'd get yawned at like most modern trash.

Ugh, here I go again derailing threads. I'll shut up now.

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You're losing any credibility by comparing Abrams to Bay, sorry.

Want to compare Pete Carroll to Rich Kotite next?

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You're losing any credibility by comparing Abrams to Bay, sorry.


I didn't compare them. Abrams is a (marginally) better filmmaker. I just pointed out that if it weren't following such a bad run of Trek, XI wouldn't get nearly the positive press it does now.

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Oh please. All the TNG movies are great? Star Trek 4 and 5 are top-shelf?

I love the Trek movies, all of them. Seen them 100's of times...but they're not REALLY great films. Hell, Galaxy Quest is 3rd best ever behind Kahn and Abrams one. We weren't subjected to the insertion of corny political correctness "see, we can get along" references using Worf as the contrast. Or the forced one-liners between Kirk and Bones, that bordered on satire of itself in 4, 5 and 6.

Abrams made the characters three dimensional, which, ya know, adds depth. You finally knew why Kirk was reckless. Spock's kind of a dick and a messed up dude. Etc, etc, etc. The threat his villian posed seemed more realistic and alot less houkey.

You're the baseball writer who didn't vote Ripken into Cooperstown the first time, because "no one's ever got 100% of the vote". Or, that annoying movie critic who gave No Country a thumbs down, just to stand out.

I'm not even an Abrams fan, but to compare him on any level to Bay is literally like arguing that Kotite's on par with Parcells.

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And I'm sorry, every movie and episode Picard was trying to prove how in touch he was with his feminine side. "I'm crying because I'm the last Picard..." waaaahhh.

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We weren't subjected to the insertion of corny political correctness "see, we can get along" references using Worf as the contrast.


You know what's funny? Almost every critic of pre-Abrams Trek I've ever known has eventually gone here. "Ugh, that pretentious TNG, so pretentious and bland." It's all anyone seems to remember. It's an interesting commentary on how far our tastes have come in twenty years, given that TNG used to be one of the biggest shows on television and that there were, in fact, a lot of people who liked TNG for exactly what it was. Just because you weren't one of them, doesn't invalidate how they enjoyed the show. And I think it's understandable that those people feel a bit of a loss when the franchise is reduced to pure blaring action. (If you want better Trek, watch DS9 if you haven't already. Much smarter writing.)

Me? As a diehard Christian, I'm not one for the pure humanism side. I'm actually with you there. That warm, happy universe that Trek portrays will never happen, and it's arrogance to think otherwise. But at least these shows tried to be about something. TNG had a lot of great episodes that managed to explore the human condition without being preachy. They tried to think. Yeah, X, IX, V, they all sucked, but they tried to say something. Identity and destiny in "Nemesis", conscience and integrity in "Insurrection", the search for God in "V"...big ideas, if perhaps badly executed.

What was AbramsTrek about? Some vague hint at daddy issues? Gee, never seen THAT before. From Abrams. In every series he's created.


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Abrams made the characters three dimensional, which, ya know, adds depth. You finally knew why Kirk was reckless. Spock's kind of a dick and a messed up dude. Etc, etc, etc. The threat his villian posed seemed more realistic and alot less houkey.


This movie wasn't Scorcese. Kirk was an idiot who could have gotten the Enterprise destroyed without Spock's help at the end. Spock saw his mommy die, waaahhh, that's original. The villain was boring and almost every movie critic I've read has agreed to at least that much. This wasn't depth, it was archetypes. Exactly why I think Abrams is better suited for Star Wars and why Trek is better suited for TV.

And...how exactly did a CADET who just got caught cheating on the Academy's most prestigious command exam, get promoted to first officer of the Federation flagship? Eyeroll. One of the many moments where the movie jumped the shark and landed in "dumb action movie" territory.

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You're the baseball writer who didn't vote Ripken into Cooperstown the first time, because "no one's ever got 100% of the vote". Or, that annoying movie critic who gave No Country a thumbs down, just to stand out.


Funny...you wanna know who DID stand out and give Trek a thumbs down? Roger Ebert. At least someone recognized that there was little point to this film.

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Kirk cheated in the original films too. Its referenced in Kahn. He was promoted for guessing it was Nero.

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We're talking about the films, not the shows here.

And, you obviously dont know Star Trek if you didn't realize Abrams didn't make up Kirk cheatin on the test. Rodenberry did. Again, referenced in Kahn.

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I expect there to be 100s more exploring the Star Wars universe. I don't give a shit who directs, I want to see movies.

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I think they should let the guys from Titan AE do it.


I would be behind this 100%!


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Wait just a minute, I compensate A LOT for my nerdiness. My kidneys could process a laptop, no problem, that's how much I've abused my body and lived.

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