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 Post subject: Re: Firefly
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I think most writers fall into the trap of creating similar voice for all their characters. Stephen King's characters are that way. David Eddings's characters were too. Anne Rice's, Terry Pratchett, the list goes on. Hell, I've noticed it in my own writing, and it bugs the shit out of me. I constantly struggle to give each character a voice of their own, while still remaining true to my style and voice. It's because the author is so much a part of each character, you can't help but have some of your own personality and voice creep into theirs. Whedon does as well as any in that aspect, and believe me, it ain't easy!

And to those saying that bringing back the show would be a tremendous letdown because all the momentum went out of the series at the end, I'd say that as a series with some of the most loudly voiced calls for a return, it'd do just fine. They'd stir up a huge frenzy of excitement over a reboot, and as long as they picked right back up where they left off, kept the plot moving as it was in the series, and continued Whedon's original vision for it, they'd be just fine. There wouldn't be a letdown as long as they stayed the same course the original series was on, and the only way for that to happen is by setting the movie aside.

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I think they'd have to start the series several years after the end of the movie, after the central planets have been weakened some by the revelation of what happened with the Reavers.

You could re-boot the series and have a theme of a second revolution/civil war and the outer planets fighting for independence again.

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I watched this series and I'm a Sci-Phi buff but couldn't get interested in it. Did however like the movie.

I thought Babylon 5 was a much better weekly show than Firefly.

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Babylon 5 was a much longer lasting series too. But Firefly spiraled to me more, especially Morena Baccarin.

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I think most writers fall into the trap of creating similar voice for all their characters. Stephen King's characters are that way. David Eddings's characters were too. Anne Rice's, Terry Pratchett, the list goes on. Hell, I've noticed it in my own writing, and it bugs the shit out of me. I constantly struggle to give each character a voice of their own, while still remaining true to my style and voice. It's because the author is so much a part of each character, you can't help but have some of your own personality and voice creep into theirs. Whedon does as well as any in that aspect, and believe me, it ain't easy!


That's a fair point. I shouldn't knock it if I haven't tried it, eh?

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^I'm still pretty sure that Christina Hendricks appearance in Firefly made me a man.

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^I'm still pretty sure that Christina Hendricks appearance in Firefly made me a man.


I'm pretty sure she could make anybody a man.

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I'm pretty skeptical when someone says a one-season show is a candidate for greatest show ever. I've never seen Firefly, but I've been meaning to; I have no preconceived notions about it, I've simply heard it's really good from a few people over the years. Your proclamation does make me want to watch it sooner rather than later though, Sailor.

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Roland, I'm shocked you haven't watched the series yet. Definitely do so sooner than later. You can stream it from netflix then watch Serenity.

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Yeah, I know it's on Netflix; just haven't gotten around to it, yet. I've only got a couple episodes left of season 9 of The X-Files, which has taken me quite a while to get through, (and dear God, I had forgotten how bad most of the final season was...ugh) so I'll watch Firefly next. I'll probably start it tomorrow morning before I have some friends over for BBQ ribs.

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I still have to finish 24, Dollhouse, and now Fringe. Sheesh, it's like I have a life or something.

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I still have to finish 24, Dollhouse, and now Fringe. Sheesh, it's like I have a life or something.


I'd rate those Dollhouse, Fringe, then 24. Of the three, the first two are completely awesome, the third well done, but eh...

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Oh Montana, you're such a kidder. You live in Montana. We know you don't have a life.

@Sailor: Don't impugn 24, it's not Kiefer Sutherland's fault the writing went to crap after season 4-ish. That show's first few seasons were awesome, and the format of the show was very refreshing.

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@Roland, true. It was well done. I enjoyed it. Just wasn't the same caliber of Firefly, Dollhouse, and Fringe. Of course, hard to find any show that is.

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I'm pretty skeptical when someone says a one-season show is a candidate for greatest show ever. I've never seen Firefly, but I've been meaning to; I have no preconceived notions about it, I've simply heard it's really good from a few people over the years. Your proclamation does make me want to watch it sooner rather than later though, Sailor.



I had to admit to never having seen the TV show. Our youngest and her hubby sent us the movie Serenity and I liked it. So tried to watch the TV show after that and it just didn't zing to me. For some reason not the same.

I loved Battlestar Gallactica in its original form. So when the new version came along with a couple of actors I really like, Mary McConnel & Edward Olmos I was sure I'd like it. But I missed the beginning weeks and never could get with that program.

So kind of like Roland says, just because someone else likes it doesn't mean I will. And no offense either. My wife loves Burn Notice, me? Bores me to tears. And I don't care what anyone says Fi is not gorgeous, or even pretty as far as I'm concerned. lol

Funy how disparate ladys will get my attention. Kenzie in NCIS LA could share a nights fantasy with me anytime. Same with Lucy Liu in Elementary. Now if there are 2 entirely different types of ladys they would be them.

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Never watched the series, but any low-budget sci-fi which gets critical acclaim, I'll watch. Loved the movie.

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Speaking of the new Battlestar Galactica which was one of my favorite sci-fi series of all time, they should just do a reimagining of Firefly. Not a radical change because what's the point of that? But they're going to need new actors, etc. so why not just start all over? a new telling altogether.

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I loved all the characters and how they interacted together. Adam Baldwin was awesome in both Firefly and Chuck (also a great show). By the way, if you want a Morena Baccarin nudity fix, watch Homeland, which is a great show also haha. Claire Danes is a CIA agent who suspects a soldier POW released after 8 years in terrorist captivity has turned, and is plotting a terrorist attack on American soil. Baccarin plays his wife.

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Yup, multiple times. It is a cable TV show after all! HBO or Showtime, I forget which. Just google image search "morena baccarin homeland" or something similar if you don't believe me haha.

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Firefly was a lot of fun. Wish I had seen it when it was on, but I was a bandwagon hop-on a couple years ago.

I would vote "no" to a re-boot. Too tough to replace those characters, and actors like Nathan Fillion just made the characters who they are. Another actor in some of those roles (or even just new characters filling out the cast) just wouldn't feel right.

I think the movie wrapped things up really nicely and gave some closure.

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I say yes if its a movie the quality of Serenity. Itd have to be a movie beacause Nathan Fillion and Gina Torres are series regulars on other shows. Alternate reality reboot won't work because the show was so short run. Continue after serenity with th opertunity to instal new characters. I'm sure they didn't cover all of Joshs ideas. Two by two, hands of blue.

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I was just reading the trivia section of Serenity on imdb and Whedon revealed that all the characters were originally suposed to survive but because the actors couldn't commit to a sequel they were killed off. He also said there was a strong possibility they would return if a sequel was to be made but he has to figure out a way that the audience would buy.

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