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Well sure, Roland. Every generation has their new music equipment. Mine had the electric guitar. This generation has Auto-tune.


Come on, that's like me saying your generation had the cow bell. Auto-tune is something worthy of actually ranting about in this thread. ;)


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I disagree there is still alot of really relevant music now days but its just gone underground, there is just 10X more crap which makes the good stuff harder to find.

When was the last time you heard an album that was solid from start to finish? Most are a hit single and a bunch of filler. The album format is dying, take a look at a kids ipod these days and its 2 songs by this band, 1 of this band and 4 of another.

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You speak true Roland. It led to a lot of experimental music, some worked(Pink Floyd's catalog) some didn't(every King Crimson album after the first one).

There is some decent music out there, but few bands that I get into have my attention for one or more album. It's like they stumble onto their good songs and don't know the why of how they are good.

The Mars Volta made one of the greatest debut albums I ever heard, blending creativity and melody perfectly. Then went off the deep end of experimentation and kind of lost me.

However, Wolfmother is a current band that blends old school influences with their own unique sound. You listen to them, you hear Sabbath, you hear Metallica and you hear Zeppelin, and I dig that.

I think its funny all the complaining about autotune as we gleefully indulge in the other aspects of the digital age. We all love HDTV and live by our Smartphones. We love being able to download music, and digital recording over analog has led to some interesting innovations. But dammit, autotune, that's where the line is crossed, not a couple at dinner that sit texting each other rather than talking.


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Agree completely with the OP. Pretty much late 50's to early 90's for me with few exceptions.


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Your grandparents said the same thing about those silly groups like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Carry on.



Well my grandparents were right most of the time...

But seriously, that is a valid point and one I've thought about a lot... However unlike my grandparents I don't hate all music from today. Like others have pointed out, it's just been more of a pain to find the really good and creative stuff. I listen to rap, techno, electronic rock, etc. but certainly nothing that's on our weekly top 40 or that plays on any radio station. My grandparents wouldn't be caught dead listening to any form of rock n roll or pop music (strictly swing, classical, and jazz, all of which I also listen to).

BTW I'm 28, so as much as I got a nice laugh out of everyone's "old man" comments, that simply isn't the case :)

Another thing I've been wondering is why we rarely see instrumental hit songs anymore.

http://tunecaster.com/charts/music/inst ... op-10.html

From 1959 - 1966 (8 years) we had 84 instrumental songs crack the top 20.
From 1973 - Present (40 years), we've had 43 instrumental songs crack the top 20...with the most recent being in 1999

Why is it that people don't like instrumentals anymore?


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(I am guessing here) The general public has a short attention span and have no a imagination to let the music take you on a journey without lyrics to paint the picture for you. Also many think instrumentals in rock are just a guitar player wanking off.

**edit** I am probably in the minority here, but I don't really pay much attention at all to lyrics

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The Billboard Top Song of 1969 was Sugar, Sugar by the Archies.

Pop music tends to always suck, but its always popular. There's good artists out there now that don't get major airplay.


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They just don't make good bands like Murray Head anymore.

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There's plenty of good music today. However most everyone just has horrible taste.


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Why is it that people don't like instrumentals anymore?


Some people still do, Pelican is one of my favorite bands. But then again I have exceptional taste in music. :D

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Joe Satriani "wanks off" pretty good instrumentals.


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Your grandparents said the same thing about those silly groups like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Carry on.



Well my grandparents were right most of the time...

But seriously, that is a valid point and one I've thought about a lot... However unlike my grandparents I don't hate all music from today. Like others have pointed out, it's just been more of a pain to find the really good and creative stuff. I listen to rap, techno, electronic rock, etc. but certainly nothing that's on our weekly top 40 or that plays on any radio station. My grandparents wouldn't be caught dead listening to any form of rock n roll or pop music (strictly swing, classical, and jazz, all of which I also listen to).

BTW I'm 28, so as much as I got a nice laugh out of everyone's "old man" comments, that simply isn't the case :)

Another thing I've been wondering is why we rarely see instrumental hit songs anymore.

http://tunecaster.com/charts/music/inst ... op-10.html

From 1959 - 1966 (8 years) we had 84 instrumental songs crack the top 20.
From 1973 - Present (40 years), we've had 43 instrumental songs crack the top 20...with the most recent being in 1999

Why is it that people don't like instrumentals anymore?


Can't just be technology at all can it?

BTW, anything on the radio is straight up corny whether it be Hip hop, Rock, Country, Pop, you name it, I don't think they even play hip hop on Kube 93 anymore aside from that 2 hour block on Sunday nights do they?

And before anyone says anything about my love for hip hop and my technology comment, I do dab a little Tool & Deftones in the mix too, been into that stuff since I was 14 lol.

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The Black Keys are one band that I feel would still have music that could still be played at minimum 20 years from now. Great song writing, guitar, riffs, drums, melodies. Far from pop music but one I know I'll still be listening to for a long time.


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speaking of new music, new old I suppose :D This sounds sooooooo good ! Mark sounds BADA** singing to something a little more aggressive!


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There are far too many good bands out there to say music isn't good today. Radiohead is the best band in the world, and in any generation, that's a good thing. Also, Hip-hop is killing it right now, and if that's not your thing, then that's your fault.


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Easy to see why there are so many different types of music, look at all the different tastes.


I'm very shortly going to be 70 and still like good quality music no matter what genre.

I admit to prefering the Rock of the 60s-70s-80s.

Grew up and went to high school in Chewelah, Wa. that was pretty much the old Buck Owens type of country and never learned to like it much. My friends and I in school played in bands and made music but it was all Rick Nelson, stuff like that. Once got thrown out of a convacation for doing some of his music on stage.

Carl Perkins in those days was really rock a billy and helped make the rock and roll music popular. Then this guy named Elvis came along and the kids went wild. Again that was music the school people refused to let us play publically.

My very favorite kind of music tho is real good harmony, no matter if its country, rock or anything else. Its hard work to sing good harmony from barbershop stuff right up to groups like the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac.

I like a bit of Jazz but prefer the Dixieland version of it to the hard core stuff even while appreciating the talent it takes to play it. Have never learned to like Rap at all cause to me its not music. I know others of you like it and we are going to have to agree to disagree cause to us old people if you don't sing, or play and instrument, you aren't making music. To me Rap represents a lack of talent musically. That's just the way I see it and I'm not bashing any of you for liking it so don't bash me for not.

Regarding instrumentals, in the 60s-70s one of the most popular groups in the world was the Ventures. But you listen to any 60s-70s station and they never play them. Ventures, Duane Eddy, Chet Atkins, and so many more that contributed to our music culture have been thrown along side the road and left tho they were domineering in their day.

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I disagree there is still alot of really relevant music now days but its just gone underground, there is just 10X more crap which makes the good stuff harder to find.

When was the last time you heard an album that was solid from start to finish? Most are a hit single and a bunch of filler. The album format is dying, take a look at a kids ipod these days and its 2 songs by this band, 1 of this band and 4 of another.


Lamb of God - Sacrament
Anthrax - Worship Music
High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine (haven't bought their newest CD yet)

I could go on but you get my point. Their are still numerous albums that are very solid still being made, just most of them are not pop.

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In 2050 there will be songs from 2013 that are considered classics and some of the best songs ever made. We probably won't know which songs those are until the distant future though.

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