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  • Shoe dropped. Data was released.

    Probably a moment in time before someone cross-references available data on email addresses tied to location (home, work, etc - collected from damn near every app in every phone/tablet on every platform). My understanding is there are several versions of the file out, only one legit - the dummies likely put out by Ashley Madison or allies to create false negatives and give plausible deniability to those caught.

    My question is how this affects sports?

    We are already seeing people checking the sites for politicians, bank employees, and celebrities (Of course Duggar got nailed in that search as an example). Is it unreasonable to expect athletes will not be in that group when they are already catching politicians in it? Of course not.

    So does this become a slow bleed where sport fans DL the data and scrape it for the opponent players? Digging for distractions? Or is that ridiculous (I can certainly see some fans doing this just like crazy things people do on Twitter to try to "help" their team).

    Seems like this is fair bounds to discuss as a potential issue that might affect 1 or more teams as the year progresses. Might even be some NFL teams affected just because of the sheer size of the teams, likely more chances for one or two to have gotten caught.

    My understanding is you can use whatever email address you want but if you want to pay for it, ie to actually USE the service, then you need access to the account to get in. So the 'somebody used my email account without my knowledge' does not likely work unless you didn't pay. That means credit card info is verification you did use the site with intent.

    Will be interesting to see if or how this affects different sports.
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  • I hear a RUMOR, that the dad of the Duggar family (19 kids) was found on there.
    This will get interesting as it goes.
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  • pmedic920 wrote:I hear a RUMOR, that the dad of the Duggar family (119 kids) was found on there.
    This will get interesting as it goes.


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  • I'm a little surprised more names haven't made the news, especially politicians. Though politicians are usually pretty up front about who they're screwing (Us).
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  • I haven't seen anything about the dad, only Josh. Got a link for this?
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  • What's the over/under on someone with the last name Slater being on that list?
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  • Listen, just because I'm taking my wife out into the desert for the next six months where there's no cell reception or internet has NOTHING to do with this Ashley Madison hack.
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  • pmedic920 wrote:I hear a RUMOR, that the dad of the Duggar family (19 kids) was found on there.
    This will get interesting as it goes.


    After 13 kids, ostensibly one forgets if they're all from one's own womb.

    Time to fire up the DNA tester.
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  • The hackers are saying that the members are 90-95% men, and that the female profiles are mainly fake. It seems that there's a lot more wishing than affairs going on.
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  • austinslater25 wrote:I haven't seen anything about the dad, only Josh. Got a link for this?


    Yeah I am only seeing that Josh Duggar (the one who admitted to being a molester a few months ago) was on the list. Not the Dad of the 19 kids.
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  • There a better chance of a Martin being on the list.
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  • HawkFan72 wrote:Yeah I am only seeing that Josh Duggar (the one who admitted to being a molester a few months ago) was on the list. Not the Dad of the 19 kids.

    Considering how impossible it'd be to actually spend more than two minutes of one-on-one time raising a kid when you've got 19 of 'em, I'd say it's fair to put a little accountability on the dad, IMO.

    Err, I mean, let's all continue the Lord's work of breeding as much as possible, because awesome.
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  • SnoCoHawk wrote:The hackers are saying that the members are 90-95% men, and that the female profiles are mainly fake. It seems that there's a lot more wishing than affairs going on.



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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    SnoCoHawk wrote:The hackers are saying that the members are 90-95% men, and that the female profiles are mainly fake. It seems that there's a lot more wishing than affairs going on.



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    Hah! That's just the hook-up sites though. I think the numbers at the "let's go out on dates with the intention of finding a real relationship" sites are a bit more even.
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  • SnoCoHawk wrote:[I think the numbers at the "let's go out on dates with the intention of finding a real relationship" sites are a bit more even.

    I'm sure. I'd be curious to know what the real numbers are on a place like Match.
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  • austinslater25 wrote:I haven't seen anything about the dad, only Josh. Got a link for this?


    No I don't , that's why I said rumor, after I had time to look into it, turns out it was Josh.
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  • Yeah they nailed his OK Cupid site too.

    Probably a good thing.

    As for the #s? The valid dump is approx 86% male and 14% female. Which is pretty close to the actual #s on most dating sites as far as active users.

    I knew some women that used Ashley Madison or at least used to be on it when they were married. When they were later single they left, since that community has some unpleasant names for singles that go on the site or people that pretend to be in a relationship.

    The feedback I got from them, was it worked for them. So I doubt it was just a bunch of hopeful guys and no actual affairs. I am betting a fair # of them made it out of the gate.

    The #s are pretty much what you would expect. It just means the girl gets to dance a lot and the guys only get a few times he gets to get on the floor. But given some of the guarantees, l would bet a fair % of the guys (more than 25%?) get at least one spin around the room.

    Still nothing from the sports world, but I am betting just the #s alone mean some of them had to have gotten hit - on one side or the other.

    On the other hand, the military and government addresses are going to get shelled. I get why people used them, they thought their spouse might accidentally get into their personal email (or might have access) but would never have a need to get into their work email - but since most work email is name origin, hard to try to hide later then. Even worse, if people were using mobile devices with this thing, it kept the GPS location data. So you know the house and work address of each user - if you want, create a Google maps account and just pop the GIS data in there. Then you will have directions to where they live, if you wanted.

    Pretty sure a lot of people with security clearances are going to lose them over this one.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:I could care less. I could. Not by much though.

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  • Sports Hernia wrote:I couldn't care any less......... None of my business.


    This is how I feel too.
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    I think cheating is one of the least evil things you can do because its between the couple and their family.
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  • Hasn't everyone had a roommate use their credit card info to sign up for a porn site? Oh, that was just me?

    I'm in the "who cares?" category on this one.
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  • The "who cares" attitudes in this thread are even more disturbing than the affairs themselves.

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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:The "who cares" attitudes in this thread are even more disturbing than the affairs themselves.

    How far we've fallen.


    Well said, sir.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:The "who cares" attitudes in this thread are even more disturbing than the affairs themselves.

    How far we've fallen.


    Well said, sir.


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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:The "who cares" attitudes in this thread are even more disturbing than the affairs themselves.

    How far we've fallen.

    Oh, here we go. Another person that thinks things were better in the good old days.

    Tell me, at what point was cheating far less rampant? When did we fall from there? You mean, like, the good old days where nobody batted an eye that Bing Crosby beat the piss out of his wife and slept with every attractive female capable of spreading her legs that he could find?
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:The "who cares" attitudes in this thread are even more disturbing than the affairs themselves.

    How far we've fallen.

    Oh, here we go. Another person that thinks things were better in the good old days.

    Tell me, at what point was cheating far less rampant? When did we fall from there? You mean, like, the good old days where nobody batted an eye that Bing Crosby beat the piss out of his wife and slept with every attractive female capable of spreading her legs that he could find?


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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:The "who cares" attitudes in this thread are even more disturbing than the affairs themselves.

    How far we've fallen.


    Yeah, the people that committed suicide over the ordeal deserved it, right? I mean, everyone's personal lives should be laid out for the world to see. Much healthier, yeah?

    I mean, real people benefit from this, not the media or assholes who want to wag their finger at someone else.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Tell me, at what point was cheating far less rampant?


    Honest question, you don't think that technology has made it easier today, and therefore more might do it?
    And this post is not directed at anyone personally.
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  • DTexHawk wrote:Honest question, you don't think that technology has made it easier today, and therefore more might do it?

    Technology has made it far easier to get caught at a scale above and beyond that which it has made easier to do the initial cheating with in the first place, in my opinion.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    DTexHawk wrote:Honest question, you don't think that technology has made it easier today, and therefore more might do it?

    Technology has made it far easier to get caught at a scale above and beyond that which it has made easier to do the initial cheating with in the first place, in my opinion.


    This. I wonder how many people have been caught cheating due to texts, pics being sent, etc. Even emails that weren't made public by hackers.
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  • Montana was referring to the attitude that no-one cares about cheating and the damage that is done to families by people's selfish attitudes. Perhaps if society did care more and didn't sensationalise and rationalise this kind of behaviour, people would be less apt to do it. Websites like Ashley Madison are disgusting, in my opinion, and shouldn't exist. Despite what you may believe, the spouses and children of cheaters are victims of the selfishness of the cheater, whether they're aware or not. The suicides are sad, but only show just exactly how selfish those people were to begin with, as suicide is a selfish and cowardly action in itself (most of the time, I don't hold anything against people who are suffering needlessly at the hands of someone else if they choose to take their own life to escape the suffering). Just my opinion.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:Montana was referring to the attitude that no-one cares about cheating and the damage that is done to families by people's selfish attitudes. Perhaps if society did care more and didn't sensationalise and rationalise this kind of behaviour, people would be less apt to do it. Websites like Ashley Madison are disgusting, in my opinion, and shouldn't exist. Despite what you may believe, the spouses and children of cheaters are victims of the selfishness of the cheater, whether they're aware or not. The suicides are sad, but only show just exactly how selfish those people were to begin with, as suicide is a selfish and cowardly action in itself (most of the time, I don't hold anything against people who are suffering needlessly at the hands of someone else if they choose to take their own life to escape the suffering). Just my opinion.


    That's a lot of generalizing about pretty complicated human behavior.

    I have a brother that committed suicide. The last words I'd ever use to describe him are selfish or cowardly. Honesty, selflessness and loyalty come first. Apparently even the best of us can make mistakes. People like that don't take their own lives out of cowardice. All it takes is a moment of weakness at the absolute worst time in their lives.

    I also had a friend in high school who's 12yr old brother committed suicide. Wonder what drove him to his cowardice...

    Not trying to be dramatic, just calling bullshit on that one. The loss of life was unnecessary.
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  • Laloosh wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Montana was referring to the attitude that no-one cares about cheating and the damage that is done to families by people's selfish attitudes. Perhaps if society did care more and didn't sensationalise and rationalise this kind of behaviour, people would be less apt to do it. Websites like Ashley Madison are disgusting, in my opinion, and shouldn't exist. Despite what you may believe, the spouses and children of cheaters are victims of the selfishness of the cheater, whether they're aware or not. The suicides are sad, but only show just exactly how selfish those people were to begin with, as suicide is a selfish and cowardly action in itself (most of the time, I don't hold anything against people who are suffering needlessly at the hands of someone else if they choose to take their own life to escape the suffering). Just my opinion.


    That's a lot of generalizing about pretty complicated human behavior.

    I have a brother that committed suicide. The last words I'd ever use to describe him are selfish or cowardly. Honesty, selflessness and loyalty come first. Apparently even the best of us can make mistakes. People like that don't take their own lives out of cowardice. All it takes is a moment of weakness at the absolute worst time in their lives.

    I also had a friend in high school who's 12yr old brother committed suicide. Wonder what drove him to his cowardice...

    Not trying to be dramatic, just calling bullshit on that one.


    Call bullshit all you want, that's your right. But for someone to just take their own life without regard for all of the people they're going to hurt by that action, just because they're not able to face up to their own mistakes or take whatever punishment is coming to them is cowardly in my opinion. You are entitled to your opinion also. Obviously, people with real psychological issues that lead them to suicide are probably not acting out of selfishness or cowardice. But these guys who were caught on Ashley Madison? Cowards, all of them. I sympathize greatly with the families they hurt by the cheating, and then by the suicide. The families deserved better.
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  • The cool thing about cheating is that there's 2 sides. You can either be the overweight, complacent married guy sitting at home thinking your wife is just "out with the gals", or you can be the awesome dude who she's sleeping with behind her husband's back. I like to be the latter.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:The "who cares" attitudes in this thread are even more disturbing than the affairs themselves.

    How far we've fallen.

    Oh, here we go. Another person that thinks things were better in the good old days.

    Tell me, at what point was cheating far less rampant? When did we fall from there? You mean, like, the good old days where nobody batted an eye that Bing Crosby beat the piss out of his wife and slept with every attractive female capable of spreading her legs that he could find?


    I think the point about how things were better in the good old days is that they were far better simply because people rarely if ever got caught because they weren't mindless schmucks who were far more discrete than folks nowadays.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:Montana was referring to the attitude that no-one cares about cheating and the damage that is done to families by people's selfish attitudes.


    Pretty much. I'm not one to believe that humanity has ever been perfect (Roland), but it's the "meh, another day in the life" reaction that is concerning.
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  • Fun fact: Only 3 zip codes in the entire US did not have a account linked to this. I think that's nuts. Maybe I'm naive.


    Also, who here thinks porn and infidelity are related? I watch lots, maybe tons and only hit one honeyhole. The Duggar kid claims watching Adult Cinema lead to his cheating. I don't buy it at all.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Montana was referring to the attitude that no-one cares about cheating and the damage that is done to families by people's selfish attitudes.


    Pretty much. I'm not one to believe that humanity has ever been perfect (Roland), but it's the "meh, another day in the life" reaction that is concerning.


    Yeah, Roland made a straw man argument and missed the point of your original comment. Should we as a society not condemn adultery? I realize that people make mistakes and no-one is perfect, but if society takes a 'ho cares' attitude towards adultery, then what is the point of marriage anymore? What's the point of having a family unit anymore? It is indeed concerning.
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  • Marriage is already a broken system. The divorce rate is incredible high.

    Everyone probably knows half of their friends/family have gotten divorced or looks like its on its way there.

    No one gets married knowing theyre going to get divorced but a lot of people get married for the wrong reasons too. This results in way too many divorces because people just assume that marriage is the next step.

    In the "old days" you couldn't get divorced because of family/religious reasons. Doesn't mean that couple were that much happier than couples today. The reason why I don't care about this site and its hack is because I not one of these fools that put my info out there.

    If you are more concerned about the existence of this site then that's your morals coming out. Do you really care if your neighbors cheat?
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  • Most cheating can be boiled down to having a vanilla lover and they want to be a little rocky road. Being in love with someone means that you are afraid to lose that love. Asking a partner you're in love with to tie you up and humiliate you (like some people enjoy) can be scary for most people. What if it freaks out my partner who I love with all of my heart? What if he/she doesn't want me anymore?
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  • sammyc521 wrote:If you are more concerned about the existence of this site then that's your morals coming out. Do you really care if your neighbors cheat?


    I believe in the impact of this crap on society, yeah. Marriages produce children, and children are affected by what goes in their homes. Their ability to trust, to respect others, and to live well is affected when the sanctity of their home is invaded. As a teacher, I've seen kids from such households turn into selfish and manipulative individuals. They didn't mean to; the intrusion of tragedy into their home leaves them feeling vulnerable and causes them to develop a shell, or a need for control as a defense mechanism. Those kids might become my kids' bosses one day. I don't want my kids working in an environment where they're abused and treated like tools.

    It probably isn't my business what my actual, physical neighbors do. But I do think I have a vested interest in the vice in general, especially when it manifest itself in such tangible ways as the Ashley Madison site.
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  • All mammals are wired to reproduce with as many mates as possible. The longer you have sex with a single mate, the less endorphin and dopamine response in your brain. With new partners, you will always experience the greatest euphoria, your brain has evolved that way over millions of years in order to guarantee the greatest genetic diversity.

    Those who speak of monogamy as a moral thing are simply inventing things that go against our biological nature. Nature wants you to hump as many people as possible and that's why it feels so awesome.
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  • I'm embarrassed to admit that I did this in my previous marriage and to deny that there isnt a moral component in all of this is narrow minded and wrong Hans. You're looking at it in a vacuum. My sons life was impacted in a negative way because of my selfish decision. His mom and I because of decisions we both made still have to deal with this on a continual basis to make sure we limit the impact of our decisions on him. My situation is better than most, thankfully but it is something I'll have to combat and monitor for years. How can this be viewed as anything but wrong?
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  • HansGruber wrote:All mammals are wired to reproduce with as many mates as possible. The longer you have sex with a single mate, the less endorphin and dopamine response in your brain. With new partners, you will always experience the greatest euphoria, your brain has evolved that way over millions of years in order to guarantee the greatest genetic diversity.

    Those who speak of monogamy as a moral thing are simply inventing things that go against our biological nature. Nature wants you to hump as many people as possible and that's why it feels so awesome.


    Caveman much?

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  • SnoCoHawk wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    SnoCoHawk wrote:The hackers are saying that the members are 90-95% men, and that the female profiles are mainly fake. It seems that there's a lot more wishing than affairs going on.



    Online dating in one pic


    Hah! That's just the hook-up sites though. I think the numbers at the "let's go out on dates with the intention of finding a real relationship" sites are a bit more even.


    I thought I read that even Ashley Madison's breakdown of member's sex, was like 90% male.

    Chicks don't need dating sites to hook up, they hold the sexual power. They could get laid on their lunch break if they felt like it.
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  • austinslater25 wrote:I'm embarrassed to admit that I did this in my previous marriage and to deny that there isnt a moral component in all of this is narrow minded and wrong Hans. You're looking at it in a vacuum. My sons life was impacted in a negative way because of my selfish decision. His mom and I because of decisions we both made still have to deal with this on a continual basis to make sure we limit the impact of our decisions on him. My situation is better than most, thankfully but it is something I'll have to combat and monitor for years. How can this be viewed as anything but wrong?

    If you wish to see it as "wrong", go for it. Don't let me take your cross.

    Although why would your kid have known about it? That seems odd to me. It's your sex life. Seems like that's something that should have remained private. If you just mean that your kid was affected by divorce, well, that's pretty common now. Mine divorced too, but it didn't upset me because I understood that people break up, etc. I think some of that might be projection
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