Man, it doesn't feel like it's been 10 years. I remember going to see it on opening night like yesterday.
http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/18/the-dark-knight-10th-anniversary-critics-conversation/
RolandDeschain wrote:It was a great film, for sure. Maybe considered a little better than it actually is/was due to Heath Ledger's death, but still a great film nonetheless.
Cyrus12 wrote:Pretty much the last show where a comic book movie was actually good.
Maulbert wrote:Cyrus12 wrote:Pretty much the last show where a comic book movie was actually good.
I know you'll disagree with anything I post here, but:
The Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Captain America: Civil War
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
X-Men: Days of Future Past
Deadpool
Logan
Kick-Ass
Kingsman: The Secret Service
Dredd
But whatever. Let's just dismiss them all.
RolandDeschain wrote:Maulbert wrote:Cyrus12 wrote:Pretty much the last show where a comic book movie was actually good.
I know you'll disagree with anything I post here, but:
The Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Captain America: Civil War
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
X-Men: Days of Future Past
Deadpool
Logan
Kick-Ass
Kingsman: The Secret Service
Dredd
But whatever. Let's just dismiss them all.
Virtually all of those movies are pretty good. I'd say one is even great. However, how many of them would you say deserve an Academy Award?
Judging by that metric...it's hard to argue against his proclamation of The Dark Knight.
Maulbert wrote:He said good, though. I'm not arguing greatness, or that any of them are better than The Dark Knight (though there are a couple I like better, that's just my opinion). I could and would quite easily argue that all of them are good, which his comment implied they weren't.
JGfromtheNW wrote:For me, TDK is the pinnacle of comic book/superhero movies. The pacing in that movie is pretty much perfect, the shots are fantastic, each scene and piece of dialogue feels like it matters, Ledger's and Eckhart's portrayals of the Joker and Harvey Dent are second to none, and I could go on and on. TDK was the perfect storm of great casting, great script and great execution.
I'd be surprised if I enjoyed another superhero movie that much again. I really liked Black Panther and some of the other Marvel movies that have come out in the recent past, but nothing has come close to the viewing experience and quality of film that TDK offers.
RolandDeschain wrote:High five, baby. However, I think Batman Begins gets unfairly overshadowed by TDK; in my opinion, TDK wouldn't be as great as it is without the exceptionally strong and damned good origin film that Batman Begins was. If Batman Begins had been "meh", TDK would not be quite as good despite no changes in the TDK film itself, if you get what I mean.
The_Z_Man wrote:
It's a little bit the same way when I watch Who Framed Roger Rabbit? - knowing that Bob Hoskins had himself hypnotized so he could believe he was actually interacting with these characters, and that it did permanent damage, and that he still hallucinates Roger Rabbit to this day, makes the movie slightly creepy...
HawkGA wrote:The_Z_Man wrote:
It's a little bit the same way when I watch Who Framed Roger Rabbit? - knowing that Bob Hoskins had himself hypnotized so he could believe he was actually interacting with these characters, and that it did permanent damage, and that he still hallucinates Roger Rabbit to this day, makes the movie slightly creepy...
Wait, what?
RolandDeschain wrote:...how many of them would you say deserve an Academy Award?
The_Z_Man wrote:HawkGA wrote:The_Z_Man wrote:
It's a little bit the same way when I watch Who Framed Roger Rabbit? - knowing that Bob Hoskins had himself hypnotized so he could believe he was actually interacting with these characters, and that it did permanent damage, and that he still hallucinates Roger Rabbit to this day, makes the movie slightly creepy...
Wait, what?
Oh yea, it's not common knowledge, but I read this in a book on method acting and writing. When they were filming Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Hoskins was struggling because he'd have someone reading the toons lines, but his performance was coming out flat because he couldn't envision the characters he was having to react to. He was actually in danger of being fired from the film when the director suggested seeing, I believe, some doctor who could hypnotize people.
So Hoskins took some short films of Roger Rabbit home, and a lot of original art from the set, had himself hypnotized and even did some hallucinogenics, I believe, it was DMT or DXM, so he could visualize Roger being in the room with him.
It totally worked.
Too well....
After filming wrapped, he couldn't get rid of Roger... the damned rabbit went everywhere with him. It wasn't quite Syd Barret (Pink Floyd's original lead) level, but close. It drove him a bit mad, ruined his career, and he never really recovered.
At first, the press was saying things like "He's an alcoholic" et. and blame his situation on being overworked or drinking too much, but it was a much deeper issue than that. Then when he died they passed it off as the new catch all... these days a lot of mental conditions get thrown under the umbrella of "Parkinson's Disease" but that's just something they can put in a blurb and the consuming public can nod and go "oh yea" because it's recognizable.
But what he really had was a form of dementia, probably brought on by what he went through.
It's like Robin Williams, officially they say "Parkinson's" but it was a rare form of dementia also. His brain was short circuiting and he was seeing and believing things that were not real. He was even having seizures.
Hoskin's struggle is RARELY mentioned, you only hear a blurb about it now and then.
Like in this clip here at 3:30 .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O55kFMD_dc&t=394s
It makes it sound like no big deal... but it was a very big deal.
Freaky, huh?
LargentFan wrote:RolandDeschain wrote:...how many of them would you say deserve an Academy Award?
In my opinion, three of the movies listed deserved an academy award. Unless we're talking visual effects, because then the list grows.
The first Avengers movie is better than Argo. Not shitting on Argo, but come on. Does anyone even remember that movie exists? the rest of the nominees that year are solid, but I doubt any will be remembered for close to as long as The Avengers.
Logan deserved consideration for best actor and supporting actor, in my opinion. I don't even like Wolverine or any of the mutants, but this movie was amazing. At the time of its release, it shot into my top three comic book movies of all time, joining The Avengers and The Dark Knight. Infinity War has now jumped into my top three, but I am not sure which movie got bumped. I haven't figured it out yet.
Infinity War is an unparalleled accomplishment in cinematic history. Not saying it's the greatest movie ever, but no other movie has even tried to do what it did. Bringing together so many different casts of characters in such a compelling and cohesive way is really impressive. Josh Brolin was perfect as Thanos and the rest of the cast was at their best as well. It might be my favorite comic movie of all time.
MontanaHawk05 wrote:Wally Pfister and Hans Zimmer really did the Lord's work in that film.
Maulbert wrote:I disagree on Hans Zimmer. He ruined film scores with the Dark Knight Trilogy and Inception. Now everything sounds just like his stuff, and themes and motifs have disappeared.
RolandDeschain wrote:Maulbert wrote:I disagree on Hans Zimmer. He ruined film scores with the Dark Knight Trilogy and Inception. Now everything sounds just like his stuff, and themes and motifs have disappeared.
So you're blaming Hans Zimmer for people ripping off his style?
Maulbert wrote:I don't really like his style to begin with. His stuff sounds too incedental and samey, with no distinction between his scores. However, I will admit the popularity of Chris Nolan's films is what's making so many composers ape his style, and that specifically is not his fault.
RolandDeschain wrote:Maulbert wrote:I don't really like his style to begin with. His stuff sounds too incedental and samey, with no distinction between his scores. However, I will admit the popularity of Chris Nolan's films is what's making so many composers ape his style, and that specifically is not his fault.
Not a fan of the soundtracks from Gladiator, Hannibal, or The Rock either, then?
The_Z_Man wrote:I think great movie scores have gone the way of great films... few and far between.
Really, video games and television shows in the last decade or so have had more iconic soundtracks than movies....
fenderbender123 wrote:The_Z_Man wrote:I think great movie scores have gone the way of great films... few and far between.
Really, video games and television shows in the last decade or so have had more iconic soundtracks than movies....
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