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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 10:30 am
  • Satisfying ending to an unsatisfying season. I actually really enjoyed last night's finale. I just wish they would have given seasons 7 and 8 all the time that they needed to get where they were going.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 11:43 am
  • Some people need serious therapy. It’s just a TV show. Hahaha.
    Guess what? There are other shows to watch. I’m not cancelling HBO cause I have to watch the 2nd season of The Deuce and right now I am enjoying Chernobyl a lot. I also plan on checking out Big Little Lies, per the suggestion of a good friend.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 11:47 am
  • Im telling you guys, Barry is great.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 11:48 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:I'm finished.

    What a disappointment.

    One actual great moment in the entire friggin' episode.

    For me, at least; the way this season has unfolded is worse than anything that has happened in the books, or in the show before it. We've seen some sad and horrific character deaths, but killing the legacy of the entire friggin' show is worse.

    :laugh:
    Uh, we are all finished cause it is done. On to the next thing.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 1:55 pm
  • I would think since they consulted with Martin back in 2013 the fate of the main characters is what Martin envisioned. So any issues with that should be criticisms of Martin not the show runners.

    But the journey of how we got to the end of last night is on the show runners. Especially if they made the decision to cut things off when the 2 shorter seasons when HBO was willing to give them a longer runway

    So many things missing like the conversation when Jon tells his siblings about his true parents or Bran telling Tyrion about his time beyond the wall. As Seinfeld would say they yadda yadda’d the best parts
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 1:58 pm
  • HawkRiderFan wrote:I would think since they consulted with Martin back in 2013 the fate of the main characters is what Martin envisioned. So any issues with that should be criticisms of Martin not the show runners.


    Guess we'll find out in a short 24 years when Martin finally finishes the books.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 2:32 pm
  • Seahwkgal wrote:Some people need serious therapy. It’s just a TV show. Hahaha.
    Guess what? There are other shows to watch. I’m not cancelling HBO cause I have to watch the 2nd season of The Deuce and right now I am enjoying Chernobyl a lot. I also plan on checking out Big Little Lies, per the suggestion of a good friend.


    Why is there always someone who has to play the "I'm better than you because I don't care." game?

    Just stop.

    We all have lives. What we care about, our hobbies, our interest are different. There are people here who have struggled through major health issues, cancer, financial ruin, the death of loved ones, and so forth. Escapes are nice.

    Good for you that you don't care about this subject, but why post?

    Do you sit through every Seahawks game when they are playing bad and have zero response? Do you never get irate and upset when the team plays like crap, or are you just above all that?

    When something shitty happens to the thing you enjoy, when someone drops the ball when they have the best job in the world and are making millions off the entertainment dollar you spend, and you are grinding and struggling to survive, you're liable to complain about it.

    I don't know about you, but when I order a pastrami sandwich and I get a shit sandwich instead, I'm going to spit it out and yell "DISGUSTING!"
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 3:25 pm
  • The biggest issue this ending had was the fact that they did a terrible job of seeding Dany's madness in the previous 3 seasons. If they had just laid a few tracks, I think this would have felt more earned. Ultimately, people whining about it just need to grow up and move on. It's a TV show that cut several plotlines from the books even before it passed it by. This was never the definitive version.

    Whether we ever get that version or are happy with it, god knows, but I know this ending isn't worth getting upset over, and was somewhat poetic. You want an ending that truly shits on a shows legacy? Go watch Dexter.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 5:11 pm
  • Loved it. Wish it could just keep going.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 8:14 pm
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 10:01 pm
  • Seahwkgal wrote:Some people need serious therapy. It’s just a TV show. Hahaha.
    Guess what? There are other shows to watch. I’m not cancelling HBO cause I have to watch the 2nd season of The Deuce and right now I am enjoying Chernobyl a lot. I also plan on checking out Big Little Lies, per the suggestion of a good friend.

    Everything you said translates to the fictitious books that most people base their entire lives and existences around.

    I'm referring to the Bible, Quran, etc.

    But, I suppose it's ok for them but not ok for people to feel a little down for an evening after a decade-long show they've loved ends, eh?

    "It's just TV show."

    To that, I say: It's just a book.

    :)
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 10:06 pm
  • JGfromtheNW wrote:Satisfying ending to an unsatisfying season. I actually really enjoyed last night's finale. I just wish they would have given seasons 7 and 8 all the time that they needed to get where they were going.

    I suspect that this is your brain forcing itself to protect itself from the trauma of admitting just how bad this season and the finale has been, actually. Just like the people who react with a laugh or boredom when their doctor tells them they have terminal cancer.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 20, 2019 10:34 pm


  • Kristina Baskett graduated from Mount Rainier High School before heading to The University of Utah on a scholarship. Most recently, she spent time as a stunt double on the HBO show ‘Game of Thrones,’ filling in for Maisie Williams as Arya Stark.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Tue May 21, 2019 7:36 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    JGfromtheNW wrote:Satisfying ending to an unsatisfying season. I actually really enjoyed last night's finale. I just wish they would have given seasons 7 and 8 all the time that they needed to get where they were going.

    I suspect that this is your brain forcing itself to protect itself from the trauma of admitting just how bad this season and the finale has been, actually. Just like the people who react with a laugh or boredom when their doctor tells them they have terminal cancer.


    Again, the writing's been bad for almost two seasons, so not sure why you're being overly critical of this season.

    The last two seasons have been like a Michael Bay movie.........big, loud and dumb.

    GOT is still one of the greatest achievements in TV history, and cinema for that matter. The uneven and ham fisted writing and plot direction of the last season isn't going to diminish that for me. What we got to be a part of for eight seasons is incredible.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Tue May 21, 2019 8:28 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:
    JGfromtheNW wrote:Satisfying ending to an unsatisfying season. I actually really enjoyed last night's finale. I just wish they would have given seasons 7 and 8 all the time that they needed to get where they were going.

    I suspect that this is your brain forcing itself to protect itself from the trauma of admitting just how bad this season and the finale has been, actually. Just like the people who react with a laugh or boredom when their doctor tells them they have terminal cancer.


    Again, the writing's been bad for almost two seasons, so not sure why you're being overly critical of this season.

    The last two seasons have been like a Michael Bay movie.........big, loud and dumb.

    GOT is still one of the greatest achievements in TV history, and cinema for that matter. The uneven and ham fisted writing and plot direction of the last season isn't going to diminish that for me. What we got to be a part of for eight seasons is incredible.


    Roland, I did genuinely enjoy the finale. I definitely think they fumbled the end of the journey over the last couple seasons, but I was happy with the destination and felt like everyone's end was fitting (except Cersei and Jamie, Cersei deserved worse while Jamie deserved better).

    I really wish Jon would have been named King, but him going off to live in the North away from the fighting and the game was fitting for him. Bran (the internet) should make for the best ruler, the North gets autonomy and Sansa gets to become a Queen, Arya gets to explore (and probably discover America), Brienne finishes Jamie's story in the Kingsguard book, Tyrion returns to Hand of the King where he's proven himself most valuable -- all of these things I was satisfied with and felt like they did well.

    Sgt. Largent, I agree with you. The last couple seasons of inconsistent writing and lackluster payoffs (among a handful of great episodes and moments) did not and can not ruin GoT for me. I think seasons 2-4 are probably the best seasons of television I've ever watched. The spectacles of Hardhome, Battle of the Bastards, the destruction of the Sept., losing Viserion, Arya killing the Night King, watching Daeny destroy Kings Landing and more were enough to justify the last few seasons.

    It'll be a long time before we see another show that rivals the quality of GoT.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Tue May 21, 2019 9:51 am
  • Personally, I think the writing in season eight is significantly worse than the writing in season seven. Seven went from great writing in season six to mediocre writing in season seven, but seven went from mediocre to flat-out terrible in season eight.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Tue May 21, 2019 10:14 am
  • I enjoyed episodes 5 and 6 in isolation. Have a feeling they knew how those would go for many years now and mostly hit their mark, but for some reason decided to not spend appropriate time getting there, which is what made the previous seasons so good. The post Dany world could have had an entire season reorganizing the kingdom after what essentially was a terrorist attack, something I'd be very interested to see. My biggest disappointment is the urgency to end. Season 7 had writing issues and felt rushed but I forgave it because I thought it was to get to the finish line and really end strong. Still, probably my favorite show of all time and will go into every spinoff with an optimistic view.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 3:04 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:Personally, I think the writing in season eight is significantly worse than the writing in season seven. Seven went from great writing in season six to mediocre writing in season seven, but seven went from mediocre to flat-out terrible in season eight.



    Roland is right. S7 was bad in a dumb action movie sorta way, but S8 was just epic ... even the dialogue, my god...

    I can give you one terrible example right off the top of my head.


    Jon and Arya just walked through the dead burned bodies of possibly a half million men women and children.

    Arya: "I know a killer when I see one."

    Maise Williams should get an Emmy for uttering that line with a straight face.



    Nobody had a better story than Bran, are you kidding me?

    Everyone had a better story than Bran. The highlight of Bran's story was "hold the door" and that was Hodor's highlight, not Bran's.

    I don't want to even go into all the stupid crap... do you know how long it would take to rebuild a city like King's Landing...

    It took the Romans 32 years to rebuild Rome the first time it was sacked by the Gauls in 390BC ... and that was when most of the city was still wooden structures... it was about 3 years before they even started tearing down the old walls and putting up new ones.

    Here Tyrion is scooting around chairs in a brand new room in a Red Keep completely rebuilt just a few months later? I mean, you think the stonemason's guild just got right on that, since, you know, their own guild hall went KABOOM with wildfire when Dany set it off... and probably every one of the buggers died in there...

    I could go on on and on and on over the stupidity.

    The small council stuff was like some bad parody... everyone got their happy ending.


    Cept for Jon, you know.

    At last we know why Lady Stoneheart didn't make an appearance in the show... Cat was busy working on the season ending script.



    "Oh yes, what shall I right now? My beloved Bran, Kinged! Oh, and let's make my pretty little Sansa Queen!

    Oh, and Arya, lets give her a ship and a crew and send her off on fun adventures!

    As for the bastard, he can f**** off to the north again where he'll be forgotte
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 3:53 am
  • Jeez man, the rebuilding of one room bothers you that much? I could say I work in construction management and we gut and rebuild entire schools from the inside out over the course of a single summer, so I think one room wouldn't be a problem if they put everyone on it. But that would be ridiculous because they are different times.

    I get it, if this is a show about the sacking of Rome and they showed this it would be lame. But we are not talking about a historical time or even a historical place here, so I can suspend disbelief a bit. You are even bringing your own head canon in to complain about it. The guild hall was destroyed specifically by wildfire? I must have missed that. They even had a guild hall? I must have missed that.

    Actual historical movies must drive you nuts because they are full of inaccuracies. Braveheart?
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 5:51 am
  • I think the issues with Bran becoming king comes down to the disconnect between the books and show, if Bran being king was Martin's end game, which I think it is. I have heard in the books so far, it makes sense that Bran becomes king. TV Bran? Not so much.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 11:54 am
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 1:12 pm
  • Well all those ships in the bay was sort of weird, Yara had her fleet destroyed, Eurons Fleet destroyed, the Kings Landing Armada destroyed.

    That Small Council room was a bit much, a meeting about getting Gold to rebuild the City yet the Keep looks great, also where did the Taylors get all that material to make new Armor, and clothes for everyone.

    Plus to rebuild you need labor.

    Most of Kings Landing wiped out and the people to a large extent, the North had a large percentage of it's people wiped out as well. Riverlands and Freys wiped out, The Reach is the real northern region and the Aerie where damage didn't occur, but the Aerie took a large hit on their army up north also. That leaves Dorne, ya really think after the killing of most that dude in the chair they didn't name as the New Prince of Dorne was going to send everything to help after they basically wiped out their whole Hierarchy.

    Unsullied and the Dorthraki don't do a lot of Arts and Crafts so.

    One last thing.

    Bran said he was going to look for Drogon, how can he rule and or look for Drogon when the High Sparrow removed and burned all of the Weirwood Trees. There is no Weirwood .Net in Kings landing which Bran needs to be able to tap into his Google.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 3:24 pm
  • Seanhawk wrote:Jeez man, the rebuilding of one room bothers you that much? I could say I work in construction management and we gut and rebuild entire schools from the inside out over the course of a single summer, so I think one room wouldn't be a problem if they put everyone on it. But that would be ridiculous because they are different times.

    I get it, if this is a show about the sacking of Rome and they showed this it would be lame. But we are not talking about a historical time or even a historical place here, so I can suspend disbelief a bit. You are even bringing your own head canon in to complain about it. The guild hall was destroyed specifically by wildfire? I must have missed that. They even had a guild hall? I must have missed that.

    Actual historical movies must drive you nuts because they are full of inaccuracies. Braveheart?



    Headcanon, jeezus. Why do people twist themselves in knots to defend a bunch of Hollywood millionaires who made their bank, collect their rewards, and stop caring once they get the all the casual bitches on board.

    The masons guild, jewelers guild, and merchants guild are all in dragon's square, which is shown going kaboom with wildfire when Dany is blowing up the city. All of that is show in the maps that HBO PRODUCED.

    They include all of it in the DVD's .... along with westerosi lore -- which they even take the time to have the actors narrate, you know, back when they put real effort into the show.

    Look, they took great time to make this show believable in the beginning. Remember Jorah's fight in season 1 with the Dothraki... and he makes a statement about how useless dothraki blades are against plate armor... and we SEE the Dothraki hit Jorah with his sword full on, and Jorah's plate easily protects him and he kills the man.... accurate, thoughtful portrayal. Good writing! That's what built the show.

    Season 8 some random zombie is punching right through Jorah's plate with a dull, rusty knife.... *sigh*


    Don't even get me started on Braveheart... people wearing kilts centuries before there were Kilts.

    Mail coifs with no padding underneath.

    A romance with Queen Isabella of France who was only 9 years old at the time Wallace died...

    ugh
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 3:40 pm
  • At least Braveheart was a thoroughly entertaining film throughout. Nobody in their right mind can say that about season eight of Game of Thrones.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 5:08 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:At least Braveheart was a thoroughly entertaining film throughout. Nobody in their right mind can say that about season eight of Game of Thrones.


    If I had to choose between the two, you can take Braveheart, Mel Gibson, and the entire Scottish Isle and erase it from existence. Hell, take Jack, Rose & the Heart of The Ocean right along with it for good measure. This last season of Thrones was by far the most fun I've had watching TV, not including sports. I'd do it all over again and wouldn't change a thing. I wouldn't even brighten up the Battle of Winterfell.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 5:14 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:At least Braveheart was a thoroughly entertaining film throughout. Nobody in their right mind can say that about season eight of Game of Thrones.


    If I had to choose between the two, you can take Braveheart, Mel Gibson, and the entire Scottish Isle and erase it from existence. Hell, take Jack, Rose & the Heart of The Ocean right along with it for good measure. This last season of Thrones was by far the most fun I've had watching TV, not including sports. I'd do it all over again and wouldn't change a thing. I wouldn't even brighten up the Battle of Winterfell.


    I'm just sick of this general attitude from people upset with the ending acting like no one in their right mind could have enjoyed the ending. This world is full of people with different opinions. Hell, there are people that actually enjoyed the DCEU work of Zack Snyder!
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 5:20 pm
  • Maulbert wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:At least Braveheart was a thoroughly entertaining film throughout. Nobody in their right mind can say that about season eight of Game of Thrones.


    If I had to choose between the two, you can take Braveheart, Mel Gibson, and the entire Scottish Isle and erase it from existence. Hell, take Jack, Rose & the Heart of The Ocean right along with it for good measure. This last season of Thrones was by far the most fun I've had watching TV, not including sports. I'd do it all over again and wouldn't change a thing. I wouldn't even brighten up the Battle of Winterfell.


    I'm just sick of this general attitude from people upset with the ending acting like no one in their right mind could have enjoyed the ending. This world is full of people with different opinions. Hell, there are people that actually enjoyed the DCEU work of Zack Snyder!


    People have different tastes. The DCEU doesn't do much for me. Neither did Avatar or Harry Potter. LotR I love, the Hobbit movies not so much (the book is a different story). I don't like the Star Wars prequels, but I do enjoy the sequels. I also prefer Legion, Better Call Saul & Fargo over Dexter, Breaking Bad & The Walking Dead. Love The Sopranos, never seen The Wire. Who cares, right?
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 5:25 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:At least Braveheart was a thoroughly entertaining film throughout. Nobody in their right mind can say that about season eight of Game of Thrones.


    If I had to choose between the two, you can take Braveheart, Mel Gibson, and the entire Scottish Isle and erase it from existence. Hell, take Jack, Rose & the Heart of The Ocean right along with it for good measure. This last season of Thrones was by far the most fun I've had watching TV, not including sports. I'd do it all over again and wouldn't change a thing. I wouldn't even brighten up the Battle of Winterfell.


    I'm just sick of this general attitude from people upset with the ending acting like no one in their right mind could have enjoyed the ending. This world is full of people with different opinions. Hell, there are people that actually enjoyed the DCEU work of Zack Snyder!


    People have different tastes. The DCEU doesn't do much for me. Neither did Avatar or Harry Potter. LotR I love, the Hobbit movies not so much (the book is a different story). I don't like the Star Wars prequels, but I do enjoy the sequels. I also prefer Legion, Better Call Saul & Fargo over Dexter, Breaking Bad & The Walking Dead. Love The Sopranos, never seen The Wire. Who cares, right?


    That's my general point, but I will admit I took a cheapshot at the DCEU. In the end, I don't really care if someone loves it, at least that's a positive emotion.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 5:51 pm
  • The_Z_Man wrote:Don't even get me started on Braveheart... people wearing kilts centuries before there were Kilts.

    Mail coifs with no padding underneath.

    A romance with Queen Isabella of France who was only 9 years old at the time Wallace died...

    ugh


    You know what else they didn't have? Movie cameras. Huge continuity error on their part and ALMOST NOBODY BRINGS IT UP! Remember when Mel Gibson assured us that it was going to be absolutely and completely historically accurate? Yeah right, a-hole. Just admit you took some liberties and move on because we're not buying the BS anymore!
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 6:17 pm
  • The_Z_Man wrote:
    Seanhawk wrote:Jeez man, the rebuilding of one room bothers you that much? I could say I work in construction management and we gut and rebuild entire schools from the inside out over the course of a single summer, so I think one room wouldn't be a problem if they put everyone on it. But that would be ridiculous because they are different times.

    I get it, if this is a show about the sacking of Rome and they showed this it would be lame. But we are not talking about a historical time or even a historical place here, so I can suspend disbelief a bit. You are even bringing your own head canon in to complain about it. The guild hall was destroyed specifically by wildfire? I must have missed that. They even had a guild hall? I must have missed that.

    Actual historical movies must drive you nuts because they are full of inaccuracies. Braveheart?



    Headcanon, jeezus. Why do people twist themselves in knots to defend a bunch of Hollywood millionaires who made their bank, collect their rewards, and stop caring once they get the all the casual bitches on board.

    The masons guild, jewelers guild, and merchants guild are all in dragon's square, which is shown going kaboom with wildfire when Dany is blowing up the city. All of that is show in the maps that HBO PRODUCED.

    They include all of it in the DVD's .... along with westerosi lore -- which they even take the time to have the actors narrate, you know, back when they put real effort into the show.

    Look, they took great time to make this show believable in the beginning. Remember Jorah's fight in season 1 with the Dothraki... and he makes a statement about how useless dothraki blades are against plate armor... and we SEE the Dothraki hit Jorah with his sword full on, and Jorah's plate easily protects him and he kills the man.... accurate, thoughtful portrayal. Good writing! That's what built the show.

    Season 8 some random zombie is punching right through Jorah's plate with a dull, rusty knife.... *sigh*


    Don't even get me started on Braveheart... people wearing kilts centuries before there were Kilts.

    Mail coifs with no padding underneath.

    A romance with Queen Isabella of France who was only 9 years old at the time Wallace died...

    ugh


    Oh, there's plenty to bitch about. I was disappointed in this final season. They didn't sell the Jon-Dany love story to me in the past couple seasons, which in turn didn't do Dany's heel turn this season any favors as far as believability goes. I think the Jon/Targaryen reveal went over like a wet fart, but despite the time constraints Weiss and Benioff imposed on themselves I think it could have been salvageable.

    What if it played out almost exactly as it did except Dany never found out about Jon from Jon? Jon still told Sansa and Arya and she found out through Tyrion. Jon didn't tell her because he truly didn't want to be King, but he still soured on their relationship because she's his aunt. Dany took him not telling her as him plotting for the throne and her turn was her thinking this was the only way to be queen. But that's just my opinion.

    But what you're doing is nitpicking. Trying to draw on historical examples of why they can't possibly be meeting in a room that was destroyed a few months ago? Except it wasn't destroyed.
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    I think they could have rounded up someone to re-hang that chandelier, a couple of curtains, and do some dusting. Or was the chandelier hangers' guild in Dragon's Square too?
    So maybe it wasn't your head canon, but it was someone's at HBO you're right on that. But you really think Weiss, Benioff, Sapochnik, Nutter, or any of the directors had anything to do with creating that content?


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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 6:35 pm
  • The_Z_Man wrote:Nobody had a better story than Bran, are you kidding me?

    Everyone had a better story than Bran. The highlight of Bran's story was "hold the door" and that was Hodor's highlight, not Bran's.


    Do you really think that's what he meant when he said that?
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 10:04 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:If I had to choose between the two, you can take Braveheart, Mel Gibson, and the entire Scottish Isle and erase it from existence. Hell, take Jack, Rose & the Heart of The Ocean right along with it for good measure. This last season of Thrones was by far the most fun I've had watching TV, not including sports. I'd do it all over again and wouldn't change a thing. I wouldn't even brighten up the Battle of Winterfell.

    That's nice, dear. Considering what you think of the newer Star Wars films, this surprises me not at all.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed May 22, 2019 10:37 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:If I had to choose between the two, you can take Braveheart, Mel Gibson, and the entire Scottish Isle and erase it from existence. Hell, take Jack, Rose & the Heart of The Ocean right along with it for good measure. This last season of Thrones was by far the most fun I've had watching TV, not including sports. I'd do it all over again and wouldn't change a thing. I wouldn't even brighten up the Battle of Winterfell.

    That's nice, dear. Considering what you think of the newer Star Wars films, this surprises me not at all.


    Oh snap you like better movies than me bro! Sick burn!
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 12:21 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Seahwkgal wrote:Some people need serious therapy. It’s just a TV show. Hahaha.
    Guess what? There are other shows to watch. I’m not cancelling HBO cause I have to watch the 2nd season of The Deuce and right now I am enjoying Chernobyl a lot. I also plan on checking out Big Little Lies, per the suggestion of a good friend.

    Everything you said translates to the fictitious books that most people base their entire lives and existences around.

    I'm referring to the Bible, Quran, etc.

    But, I suppose it's ok for them but not ok for people to feel a little down for an evening after a decade-long show they've loved ends, eh?

    "It's just TV show."

    To that, I say: It's just a book.

    :)

    This thread took a strange turn. Curious why this post doesn't violate "forum rules", but since it doesn't I may as well address it.

    Roland, have you ever actually checked into the historicity of the bible or does your default prejudice prevent that? You may be surprised by the amount of extra-biblical sources, archaeological evidence, and numerous historians, like Josephus, that corroborate large portions of the events described. I believe it's up to 25,000+ supporting pieces of historical evidence - far, far more than any other book from antiquity. I mean, believe whatever you want but check your facts first.

    Where we can agree is that GoT season 8 was like one of the 10 plagues of Egypt...
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 12:31 am
  • Thunderhawk wrote:This thread took a strange turn. Curious why this post doesn't violate "forum rules", but since it doesn't I may as well address it.

    Roland, have you ever actually checked into the historicity of the bible or does your default prejudice prevent that? You may be surprised by the amount of extra-biblical sources, archaeological evidence, and numerous historians, like Josephus, that corroborate large portions of the events described. I believe it's up to 25,000+ supporting pieces of historical evidence - far, far more than any other book from antiquity. I mean, believe whatever you want but check your facts first.

    Where we can agree is that GoT season 8 was like one of the 10 plagues of Egypt...

    I was raised Lutheran, went through Catechism and got confirmed, and as a young adult I actually read the entire KJV cover to cover.

    I'm an atheist now. That's all I'll say; but I'm actually pretty well-read on Christianity in general, as I also did a lot of extraneous reading on many facets of it after reading the KJV.

    To avoid going into disallowed territory, I agree, let's get back to GoT.

    Rumor has it, season eight was a disappointment. ;)

    Zebulon Dak wrote:Oh snap you like better movies than me bro! Sick burn!

    I don't think that at all. I do think I'm more honest with my film evaluations, however. :)
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 12:49 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Thunderhawk wrote:This thread took a strange turn. Curious why this post doesn't violate "forum rules", but since it doesn't I may as well address it.

    Roland, have you ever actually checked into the historicity of the bible or does your default prejudice prevent that? You may be surprised by the amount of extra-biblical sources, archaeological evidence, and numerous historians, like Josephus, that corroborate large portions of the events described. I believe it's up to 25,000+ supporting pieces of historical evidence - far, far more than any other book from antiquity. I mean, believe whatever you want but check your facts first.

    Where we can agree is that GoT season 8 was like one of the 10 plagues of Egypt...

    I was raised Lutheran, went through Catechism and got confirmed, and as a young adult I actually read the entire KJV cover to cover.

    I'm an atheist now. That's all I'll say; but I'm actually pretty well-read on Christianity in general, as I also did a lot of extraneous reading on many facets of it after reading the KJV.

    To avoid going into disallowed territory, I agree, let's get back to GoT.

    Rumor has it, season eight was a disappointment. ;)

    Zebulon Dak wrote:Oh snap you like better movies than me bro! Sick burn!

    I don't think that at all. I do think I'm more honest with my film evaluations, however. :)


    Of course you think that :rofl:
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 4:26 am
  • And HBO subscriptions are flying off the shelves....NOT.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 7:38 am
  • Largent80 wrote:And HBO subscriptions are flying off the shelves....NOT.


    There's a reason there's now three GOT spinoffs in the works.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/entertai ... index.html


    I'm still keeping my subscription, HBO has some great shows.

    - Westworld
    - Barry
    - Big Little Lies
    - Succession
    - True Detective

    Also The Watchmen trailers look bad ass, as well as they're killing it with their one off mini series like The Night of, Sharp Objects and Chernobyl.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 7:50 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:And HBO subscriptions are flying off the shelves....NOT.


    There's a reason there's now three GOT spinoffs in the works.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/entertai ... index.html


    I'm still keeping my subscription, HBO has some great shows.

    - Westworld
    - Barry
    - Big Little Lies
    - Succession
    - True Detective

    Also The Watchmen trailers look bad ass, as well as they're killing it with their one off mini series like The Night of, Sharp Objects and Chernobyl.


    For real, the trailers for upcoming shows look amazing, people who get rid of HBO because of a disliked 8th season of the biggest show on TV are nuts. I am beyond psyched for Watchmen, need to catch up on Barry, Westworld S3 looks like a completely different show and added Aaron Paul, Chernobyl is apparently incredible so that's next for me, his dark materials although a not great name looks like another fantasy hit, always enjoy Silicon Valley. No other network pumps out this consistent quality of shows. Finally caught up on Veep's final season too and that is another homerun.

    Plus, I'm sure HBO will throw the money needed at all GOT spinoffs to keep them on par with GOT. The Long Night (or whatever title they go with) which just started filming sounds like it will have just as much political intrigue with epic battles as the children of the forest create the NK to fight off mankind.

    Can probably get a different thread going but also very interested in Amazon's LOTR series. That is a tonnnnnnnn of money they've thrown at Tolkien estate just to get the rights.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 9:02 am
  • mistaowen wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:And HBO subscriptions are flying off the shelves....NOT.


    There's a reason there's now three GOT spinoffs in the works.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/entertai ... index.html


    I'm still keeping my subscription, HBO has some great shows.

    - Westworld
    - Barry
    - Big Little Lies
    - Succession
    - True Detective

    Also The Watchmen trailers look bad ass, as well as they're killing it with their one off mini series like The Night of, Sharp Objects and Chernobyl.


    For real, the trailers for upcoming shows look amazing, people who get rid of HBO because of a disliked 8th season of the biggest show on TV are nuts. I am beyond psyched for Watchmen, need to catch up on Barry, Westworld S3 looks like a completely different show and added Aaron Paul, Chernobyl is apparently incredible so that's next for me, his dark materials although a not great name looks like another fantasy hit, always enjoy Silicon Valley. No other network pumps out this consistent quality of shows. Finally caught up on Veep's final season too and that is another homerun.

    Plus, I'm sure HBO will throw the money needed at all GOT spinoffs to keep them on par with GOT. The Long Night (or whatever title they go with) which just started filming sounds like it will have just as much political intrigue with epic battles as the children of the forest create the NK to fight off mankind.

    Can probably get a different thread going but also very interested in Amazon's LOTR series. That is a tonnnnnnnn of money they've thrown at Tolkien estate just to get the rights.


    Show marked for the Pilot is now titled Bloodmoon, sounds like a Werewolf movie, but if you remember the Red Comet from GOT astrological significance of Red stars and Comets means signs of the Apocalypse in Westeros.

    The Lead I forget her name is also portrayed as a Lady with a Dark Secret, is she going to get the Ned Stark Treatment? One season to suck you in and get you bought into the premise and then a kill off? The rest of the cast I have seen isn't raw unknowns like many in GOT almost everyone has some credits to their resume'

    It is suppose to be based on what we were calling the Long Night previously, oh and the guy who was the Night King in GOT from what I heard reprises his roll, so he is a old dude, 3000 years or so.

    Must have been hard to swallow, all that time and ten feet away from your objective only to have Arya Monkey Jump and take it all away and enough time to think ahhh damn I SCREWED UP, should have just used the damn Dragon.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 9:25 am
  • mistaowen wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:And HBO subscriptions are flying off the shelves....NOT.


    There's a reason there's now three GOT spinoffs in the works.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/entertai ... index.html


    I'm still keeping my subscription, HBO has some great shows.

    - Westworld
    - Barry
    - Big Little Lies
    - Succession
    - True Detective

    Also The Watchmen trailers look bad ass, as well as they're killing it with their one off mini series like The Night of, Sharp Objects and Chernobyl.


    For real, the trailers for upcoming shows look amazing, people who get rid of HBO because of a disliked 8th season of the biggest show on TV are nuts. I am beyond psyched for Watchmen, need to catch up on Barry, Westworld S3 looks like a completely different show and added Aaron Paul, Chernobyl is apparently incredible so that's next for me, his dark materials although a not great name looks like another fantasy hit, always enjoy Silicon Valley. No other network pumps out this consistent quality of shows. Finally caught up on Veep's final season too and that is another homerun.

    Plus, I'm sure HBO will throw the money needed at all GOT spinoffs to keep them on par with GOT. The Long Night (or whatever title they go with) which just started filming sounds like it will have just as much political intrigue with epic battles as the children of the forest create the NK to fight off mankind.

    Can probably get a different thread going but also very interested in Amazon's LOTR series. That is a tonnnnnnnn of money they've thrown at Tolkien estate just to get the rights.


    Uh, did you see Westworld is adding one Marshawn Lynch too?
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Thu May 23, 2019 10:43 am
  • I have a really good feeling about His Dark Materials. Love the casting of James McEvoy and Dafne Keen.

    Very interested to see season 3 of Westworld. Not a huge Aaron Paul fan but the appearance of Marshawn more than makes up for it.

    And of course Watchmen should be a quality watch.

    Already looking forward to Z Man picking these all a part.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Fri May 24, 2019 9:36 am


  • Another video with a Metallica song.

    Edit: Haha, adding another video, co-worker just sent me this. How dead on accurate is this? And knowing that HBO was offering more time, more money to flesh out the season.

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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 27, 2019 8:02 am
  • The phrasing of some of the questions goes a long way toward explaining some of the results. Also, did you look at the N= value in that PDF report on your own article? Some of those questions were only answered by 54 people, or 104 people, etc. That's a pretty damned small sample size.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Mon May 27, 2019 7:33 pm
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:I have a really good feeling about His Dark Materials. Love the casting of James McEvoy and Dafne Keen.

    Very interested to see season 3 of Westworld. Not a huge Aaron Paul fan but the appearance of Marshawn more than makes up for it.

    And of course Watchmen should be a quality watch.

    Already looking forward to Z Man picking these all a part.



    I'm mixed on WW... really liked Season 1... S2 was a bit of a mixed bag. Looking forward to S3.

    Watchmen is my favorite comic of all time -- I own the extended edition blue ray of the movie - a lot of people think that movie is terrible, but I loved it, though I really do wish they went full squid.

    Crossing my fingers that they don't mess up the show.

    One thing I will say about GoT, everyone screaming over the final season being wrong because "sexist female tropes" -- good grief.

    It's like picking through a pile of shit to find a dirt clod.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Tue May 28, 2019 7:31 am
  • Watched the Last Watch behind the scenes documentary.

    Really enjoyed seeing how a show like GOT gets made, and it's insane the manpower, money and organization that went into it. Also cool to see interviews with some of the behind the scenes people, extras, make up artists, directors, stunt people, etc.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:39 am
  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Already looking forward to Z Man picking these all a part.



    Speaking of picking Game of Thrones apart... here you go. A very brief rundown of all the criticisms by hardcore GoT fans, Television Critics, Movie Critics, Entertainment Channels, Writing Teachers... there are hundreds of these.

    Writing teachers in universities all across the world are using this season as an example to their students of everything you don't do as a writer.... Contorting characters to fit the narrative. Abandoning or reverting character arcs, poor characterization, deus ex machina, rushing to the end, splitting the narrative, restating the same thing over and over, improper understanding of foreshadowing.

    Even the shills... Zeb, even the shills are throwing coals on the fire.

    Even damned celebrities who made cameos in the show are throwing shade.

    The kid who plays Bran thought the final script was a JOKE... he wasn't buying it... so unbelievable and stupid that he thought it was all just a prank on him.



    Here's a review by that Just Write guy you are so fond of, the dude who collects a lot of money to finance his channel and hardly ever goes negative? The one who even defended Last Jedi... the one who is so into the pockets of Warner, Disney, and so forth that he can post 5 minute movie or song clips on Youtube and never get a single copyright strike against him, that guy? Here he is tearing GoT season 8 to pieces.

    What Game Of Thrones Kinda Forgot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=habt4hbvJHg



    Entertain the Elk, another guy that's generally always primping positive:
    The Day Game of Thrones Died
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzWNbwPYdO8

    Even the major "rah rah" millions of subscribers channels like Watchmojo and Looper are throwing dirt on the grave...
    Why Game Of Thrones Fell Apart At The End
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvtPXx347Zk

    Ideas of Ice and Fire -- one of the most hard core GoT fans there ever was...
    I Feel Empty Inside
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS55nsUwFD8

    Trope Anatomy
    Foreshadowing Is Not Character Development
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mlNyqhnc1M&t=122s


    The Massacre of Game of Thrones
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnC-g1-wjt4&t=510s

    Game of Thrones S8 - Ruining Characters

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qCjNMXmTWg

    Game Of Thrones | Ruining Character Arcs - (Continued)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bHYBy0etFY&t=333s

    Variety Hour
    Game of Thrones - How to Ruin a Great Show
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8U6kjqLkJQ&t=1205s


    Why Season 8 of Game of Thrones Doesn't Work
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoScPK00P0&t=341s

    The Insider
    9 Reasons Why 'Game Of Thrones' Season 8 Was A Huge Disappointment
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cBb7EzbUm0

    Angry Joe - Angry Review
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDEUQ-8swaw&t=745s



    Of course, my personal favorite, The Critical Drinker.... this one doesn't pull punches, he just takes a giant piss all over the show and the idiots who think this crap is good... this is the one that really made me laugh.

    The Iron Throne - Game of Thrones' AWFUL final episode
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eSBtwoVXfw&t=122s


    I could go on and on... so many funny reviews, and out and out blistering burn downs...


    This is a definitive and historical FAIL... way beyond lost, and even Dexter because Dexter had just a fraction of the audience of GoT.

    This is totally Fonzy jumping the shark... it's going to be an iconic meltdown referenced for decades to come.
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Re: April 14. #ForTheThrone
Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:02 pm
  • Still the greatest show of all time.
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