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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:46 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    hmmm... that squad lacks quite a bit of defensive integrity, to be honest, but should score. I think Arsenal's biggest concerns will be the health of these players (Walcott, Ox and Ramsey have missed significant time the last few seasons)

    and again, no suitable refresher for Giroud.

    is 25-30 mil on a winger really where Wenger wants to blow his budget?

    ive heard Khedira, which obviously adds the teeth to the middle. that makes for a better rotation of your mids. Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?


    It might be tough to remember but, if you exclude those 4 away games, Arsenal only conceded 21 goals in the EPL. The key is for the defense to show up in the big matches. They do have a decent defensive integrity, the trick is to maintain focus and composure for these guys.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:04 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Smurf wrote:That Arsenal team sheet would just be begging for a solid counter attacking team (like Liverpool). No defensive integrity in the middle of the park on that one. If they keep the 4-3-3 (and they will) they need to play a holding midfielder. They haven't gotten one to do the job since Song left.

    They need someone who can win the ball back, and then spray it to the wide players when needed. Defensive/Possession midfielder.

    If I was Arsenal I'd sign Arturo Vidal.

    Yeah thats what i meant by lacking integrity. Not the back four but the front 6. Vidal or even Khedira..UKs right that Arteta would be the balance in that lineup as it stands.



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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:18 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    hmmm... that squad lacks quite a bit of defensive integrity, to be honest, but should score. I think Arsenal's biggest concerns will be the health of these players (Walcott, Ox and Ramsey have missed significant time the last few seasons)

    and again, no suitable refresher for Giroud.

    is 25-30 mil on a winger really where Wenger wants to blow his budget?

    ive heard Khedira, which obviously adds the teeth to the middle. that makes for a better rotation of your mids. Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?


    It might be tough to remember but, if you exclude those 4 away games, Arsenal only conceded 21 goals in the EPL. The key is for the defense to show up in the big matches. They do have a decent defensive integrity, the trick is to maintain focus and composure for these guys.


    Come on Gate...you know more about the game than that.

    Not tough at all...but you can't exclude 1/3rd of your goals conceded because it doesnt fit your narrative.

    Its not focus or composure in my opinion its players and setup. Arsenal are a possession based attacking team. They hold the ball to keep teams off balance. When faced with high pressing teams they struggled.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:45 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?

    Nope. The financial fair play only allows one big signing ;)


    Arsenal's got a track record when it comes to doling out cash. Its not can they but will they. Or...I'm "smoking crack"

    I know. The voyeur loves to sneak into other clubs affairs (especially in france), and bet small amount of money for youngsters... For instance, they got Flamini for free. We were trying to loan Manquillo (a right back from Spain), and of course today, reports have released that Arsenal draw some interests on this player.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:29 am
  • Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:30 am
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Of course he is...
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:38 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Of course he is...


    Ah....you took the bait! He's been dropping that one in for a while now waiting for one of us to bite. Such an obvious troll, with an arbitrary comparison to a Liverpool striker. Oh well, haters gonna hate.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:06 am
  • Great start to the transfer window for Spurs as they have signed Lloris to an extension. To be honest, I was fairly certain he'd be off. I'm delighted he's not.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:16 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Of course he is...


    Ah....you took the bait! He's been dropping that one in for a while now waiting for one of us to bite. Such an obvious troll, with an arbitrary comparison to a Liverpool striker. Oh well, haters gonna hate.


    Nah...I find it funny at this point. Clearly doesn't like Liverpool..or us "wannabe scouse" as he put it

    Lots of rumours today, including Bony. That's an interesting one.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:37 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Of course he is...


    Ah....you took the bait! He's been dropping that one in for a while now waiting for one of us to bite. Such an obvious troll, with an arbitrary comparison to a Liverpool striker. Oh well, haters gonna hate.


    Nah...I find it funny at this point. Clearly doesn't like Liverpool..or us "wannabe scouse" as he put it

    Lots of rumours today, including Bony. That's an interesting one.


    My Dad has wanted Bony since early last season, that would be interesting for sure. Markovic in for a medical, and Origi was photo'd yesterday going into Melwood for talks.

    Would like to see a real marquee signing after we sell Suarez, but I doubt it'll happen. Ben Davies' name is being bandied about for left back, we're still talking to Sevilla about Moreno, and Lovren seems like it'll be when, not if.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:46 am
  • What's Ben Davies like? He's been linked fairly strongly with Spurs for ages and I'd never even heard of him, let alone seen him play.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:55 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:What's Ben Davies like? He's been linked fairly strongly with Spurs for ages and I'd never even heard of him, let alone seen him play.


    Promising young left-back. Not as pacey as the likes of Shaw, but smart and solid. Good defender.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:00 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:What's Ben Davies like? He's been linked fairly strongly with Spurs for ages and I'd never even heard of him, let alone seen him play.


    Looks like Liverpool have an interest as well. Could just be paper talk (we've been linked with just about everyone)

    I'd rate Davies over most left backs at the moment. Peaches was fairly spot on in his brief assessment. He's also quite capable with the ball at his feet
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:03 am
  • Thanks fellas. Left back is Spurs' #1 priority, so whoever it ends up being, I hope they get a good one. For the love of God, no more Danny Rose, please.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:30 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:Thanks fellas. Left back is Spurs' #1 priority, so whoever it ends up being, I hope they get a good one. For the love of God, no more Danny Rose, please.


    Pretty much how I feel about our RB and Glen Johnson, but apparently we are in for every left back on the planet. maybe its a smokescreen...
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:00 am
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Yeah probably in Fifa :lol:
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:05 am
  • Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:22 am
  • Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

    In other news, it looks like Sanchez to Arsenal is complete. Congratulations, Gate, that is a monster signing. Should be great for you guys. HOWEVER - we all said the same about Giroud and Ozil, so take that as you will. Sanchez is quality, but will he adapt well? I actually hope so, I want to see the world's best players flourish in the PL, plus iron sharpens iron, we need PL teams to do better in the CL.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:32 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

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    They havent though have they? Barca are only going to that in instalments plus performance based payments. The fee will most likely be much nearer 60m with Liverpool trying to save face by quoting the performance based stuff. Todays upheld appeal won't have helped their position in the slightest.

    He's damaged goods.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:38 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

    In other news, it looks like Sanchez to Arsenal is complete. Congratulations, Gate, that is a monster signing. Should be great for you guys. HOWEVER - we all said the same about Giroud and Ozil, so take that as you will. Sanchez is quality, but will he adapt well? I actually hope so, I want to see the world's best players flourish in the PL, plus iron sharpens iron, we need PL teams to do better in the CL.



    maybe he stays....(i'm not opposed to it to be honest. I'd have him for one more year, even with the suspension)

    Giroud had a fine year... just was asked too much of. it finally wore him down. Maybe the same with Ozil. Arsenal are definately stronger (although Sanchez to me represents more of the same of what they already have. He may show me wrong under a different badge. It will be interesting for sure. still... very good player and was really hoping he would be part of the Suarez sale)

    I think (and who knows really what he's doing) that UK sees Remy as joining Arsenal to give Giroud a breather here and there. makes sense. He's relatively cheap, French, and talented.... and apparently the best finisher in the Prem. Maybe Liverpool will give him a look.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2636808/Loic-Remy-holds-talks-Liverpool-Arsenal-mounts-QPR-striker.html
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:46 am
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

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    They havent though have they? Barca are only going to that in instalments plus performance based payments. The fee will most likely be much nearer 60m with Liverpool trying to save face by quoting the performance based stuff. Todays upheld appeal won't have helped their position in the slightest.

    He's damaged goods.


    Nope. Liverpool don't have to sell him unless the release clause of 75 million is met. You're reaching pretty far here, UK.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:46 am
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

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    They havent though have they? Barca are only going to that in instalments plus performance based payments. The fee will most likely be much nearer 60m with Liverpool trying to save face by quoting the performance based stuff. Todays upheld appeal won't have helped their position in the slightest.

    He's damaged goods.



    youre right, he's not one of the 3-4 best players in the world..

    you are good at this. i'll give you that. just a bit too obvious, you're getting lazy
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:48 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

    .


    They havent though have they? Barca are only going to that in instalments plus performance based payments. The fee will most likely be much nearer 60m with Liverpool trying to save face by quoting the performance based stuff. Todays upheld appeal won't have helped their position in the slightest.

    He's damaged goods.


    Nope. Liverpool don't have to sell him unless the release clause of 75 million is met. You're reaching pretty far here, UK.



    love how we have to somehow "save face" in selling a player we dont have to sell... i dont even feel like's hes trying anymore.

    by the way, excited to see Markovic... kids a real talent. Would imagine we bring in one of Griezmann (new link) or Shaqiri type player, plus a new LB/RB (maybe both?) and CB

    lots of changes...or Suarez stays
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:27 pm
  • Roma, Napoli, Inter Milan and Anderlhect are reportedly the top 4 in the Yedlin Sweepstakes.


    I'd be Ok with Yedlin watching Maicon for a year and then stepping into the first team at Milan.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:39 pm
  • Smurf wrote:Roma, Napoli, Inter Milan and Anderlhect are reportedly the top 4 in the Yedlin Sweepstakes.


    I'd be Ok with Yedlin watching Maicon for a year and then stepping into the first team at Milan.



    Not to be selfish for the lad... but if he wants to learn how to play that wingback in the mold Klinsmann is implementing it cannot be in Italy (unless its part of Juve's 3-5-2)

    Anyways, he will develop rather quickly regardless. I have a feeling wherever he ends up in the near future he will move on to something a bit bigger down the road. A first step move to a Dutch club like Anderlhect, in which the whole damned league runs Cruyff's (and Ajax) version of the 433 wouldnt be a bad start
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:43 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    youre right, he's not one of the 3-4 best players in the world..



    He really isnt.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:46 pm
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    youre right, he's not one of the 3-4 best players in the world..



    He really isnt.



    he really is...


    see, I can do it too.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:38 am
  • Looks like the Markovic and Origi deals are just about wrapped up, both had medicals at Melwood yesterday.

    Talks with Swansea for Wilfred Bony are advanced, according to the player's agent. Bony scored 25 goals in all comps last season. Talk about under the radar...

    I reckon he'd make a great addition up front with Sturridge.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:13 am
  • Suarez to Barca..

    Didn't see that coming!
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:17 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Suarez to Barca..

    Didn't see that coming!


    But wait...didn't UK_Seahawk say he was damaged goods and that we wouldn't get close to 70 million pounds for him? I don't understand?
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:48 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Not to be selfish for the lad... but if he wants to learn how to play that wingback in the mold Klinsmann is implementing it cannot be in Italy (unless its part of Juve's 3-5-2)

    Anyways, he will develop rather quickly regardless. I have a feeling wherever he ends up in the near future he will move on to something a bit bigger down the road. A first step move to a Dutch club like Anderlhect, in which the whole damned league runs Cruyff's (and Ajax) version of the 433 wouldnt be a bad start

    Dutch???? Anderlecht is not a Dutch club!!! It is a Belgian club ;)

    Plus, not all of the Eredivisie runs the Cruyff's scheme. PSV Eindhoven -inspired by Hiddink- has a different style!
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:15 am
  • Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Not to be selfish for the lad... but if he wants to learn how to play that wingback in the mold Klinsmann is implementing it cannot be in Italy (unless its part of Juve's 3-5-2)

    Anyways, he will develop rather quickly regardless. I have a feeling wherever he ends up in the near future he will move on to something a bit bigger down the road. A first step move to a Dutch club like Anderlhect, in which the whole damned league runs Cruyff's (and Ajax) version of the 433 wouldnt be a bad start

    Dutch???? Anderlecht is not a Dutch club!!! It is a Belgian club ;)

    Plus, not all of the Eredivisie runs the Cruyff's scheme. PSV Eindhoven -inspired by Hiddink- has a different style!


    Come on Nog... Its still a 433. You get the point. Anderlecht also run it, despite apparently leaving the Dutch league without telling me :).
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:10 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Suarez to Barca..

    Didn't see that coming!


    But wait...didn't UK_Seahawk say he was damaged goods and that we wouldn't get close to 70 million pounds for him? I don't understand?


    Either way life without him will be a hard transition. I loved watching Torres. Then came Suarez and it was so easy to support him even with his antics.

    I don't know what's in store. Without a single move made from right now (counting Markovic in) I think we will be right around 4th. Bring in Bony, Lovren, Moreno, and a Shaqiri type player and we can back to challenging for a title.

    Lots of ifs...really wanted Sanchez for that
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:30 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Suarez to Barca..

    Didn't see that coming!


    But wait...didn't UK_Seahawk say he was damaged goods and that we wouldn't get close to 70 million pounds for him? I don't understand?


    Either way life without him will be a hard transition. I loved watching Torres. Then came Suarez and it was so easy to support him even with his antics.

    I don't know what's in store. Without a single move made from right now (counting Markovic in) I think we will be right around 4th. Bring in Bony, Lovren, Moreno, and a Shaqiri type player and we can back to challenging for a title.

    Lots of ifs...really wanted Sanchez for that


    Yeah, pretty much agree. Suarez was always going to be a huge loss, but he can be replaced with system adjustments and aggregate. We scored 101 league goals last season, and Suarez scored or had a hand in 43 of those. Se we basically need to replace 43 goals. Lallana, Markovic, Bony, Sterling, Coutinho, should all be able to come up with at least 40 goals between them, provided the system works for all of them. I have supreme faith in our player development and in Rodgers' tactics.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:38 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Suarez to Barca..

    Didn't see that coming!


    But wait...didn't UK_Seahawk say he was damaged goods and that we wouldn't get close to 70 million pounds for him? I don't understand?


    Either way life without him will be a hard transition. I loved watching Torres. Then came Suarez and it was so easy to support him even with his antics.

    I don't know what's in store. Without a single move made from right now (counting Markovic in) I think we will be right around 4th. Bring in Bony, Lovren, Moreno, and a Shaqiri type player and we can back to challenging for a title.

    Lots of ifs...really wanted Sanchez for that


    Yeah, pretty much agree. Suarez was always going to be a huge loss, but he can be replaced with system adjustments and aggregate. We scored 101 league goals last season, and Suarez scored or had a hand in 43 of those. Se we basically need to replace 43 goals. Lallana, Markovic, Bony, Sterling, Coutinho, should all be able to come up with at least 40 goals between them, provided the system works for all of them. I have supreme faith in our player development and in Rodgers' tactics.


    I'd be fine with scoring 85 and conceding 35...
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:40 am
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    I'd be fine with scoring 85 and conceding 35...


    Well, yeah, lol. I forgot about improved defense. Bringing in Lovren and Moreno would be very good business. Supposedly Aspas will be going to Sevilla as a makeweight.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:51 am
  • Just felt like asking this. But what does everyone think about the kits that their teams will be wearing this year?
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:00 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:Just felt like asking this. But what does everyone think about the kits that their teams will be wearing this year?


    I liked the kit Sanchez was photod in (except for the badge of course)

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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:33 am
  • My clubs for a logo for a car manufacture that doesnt sell or manufacture cars in the country they play in....and its hideous.

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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:15 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:Just felt like asking this. But what does everyone think about the kits that their teams will be wearing this year?


    I liked the kit Sanchez was photod in (except for the badge of course)

    Not a big fan of Liverpools...nor Warrior in general


    Which one? The first one he was shown in was the training kit
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:46 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Not to be selfish for the lad... but if he wants to learn how to play that wingback in the mold Klinsmann is implementing it cannot be in Italy (unless its part of Juve's 3-5-2)

    Anyways, he will develop rather quickly regardless. I have a feeling wherever he ends up in the near future he will move on to something a bit bigger down the road. A first step move to a Dutch club like Anderlhect, in which the whole damned league runs Cruyff's (and Ajax) version of the 433 wouldnt be a bad start

    Dutch???? Anderlecht is not a Dutch club!!! It is a Belgian club ;)

    Plus, not all of the Eredivisie runs the Cruyff's scheme. PSV Eindhoven -inspired by Hiddink- has a different style!


    Come on Nog... Its still a 433. You get the point. Anderlecht also run it, despite apparently leaving the Dutch league without telling me :).

    Yes, but Cuyff tactical approach is really specific. There is a defensive approach of the 433 built for counter attack ;) And I feel like Anderlecht plays with this mold.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:51 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Yeah, pretty much agree. Suarez was always going to be a huge loss, but he can be replaced with system adjustments and aggregate. We scored 101 league goals last season, and Suarez scored or had a hand in 43 of those. Se we basically need to replace 43 goals. Lallana, Markovic, Bony, Sterling, Coutinho, should all be able to come up with at least 40 goals between them, provided the system works for all of them. I have supreme faith in our player development and in Rodgers' tactics.

    What about the impact on the team game? Pilling players don't solve this problem because you got to have a top player to make differences.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:57 pm
  • Nog wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Yeah, pretty much agree. Suarez was always going to be a huge loss, but he can be replaced with system adjustments and aggregate. We scored 101 league goals last season, and Suarez scored or had a hand in 43 of those. Se we basically need to replace 43 goals. Lallana, Markovic, Bony, Sterling, Coutinho, should all be able to come up with at least 40 goals between them, provided the system works for all of them. I have supreme faith in our player development and in Rodgers' tactics.

    What about the impact on the team game? Pilling players don't solve this problem because you got to have a top player to make differences.


    Liverpools biggest issue last year was their depth in key positions, most notably striker and out wide (whether the wing or wing back) so they certainly needed to add players, good ones for the dual campaigns.

    But replacing Suarez is impossible. The team will need to be redefined. We did it to rather good effect to start the year. I'm hoping Rodgers can add depth and impact who will fit his post-Suarez style of play.

    Teams have done it. Arsenal are masters of it. United won titles after Ronaldo. Its not impossible. But tricky. That was all Wenger and Ferguson. Rodgers will be the best signing we made all summer if he pulls it off.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:02 pm
  • Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Not to be selfish for the lad... but if he wants to learn how to play that wingback in the mold Klinsmann is implementing it cannot be in Italy (unless its part of Juve's 3-5-2)

    Anyways, he will develop rather quickly regardless. I have a feeling wherever he ends up in the near future he will move on to something a bit bigger down the road. A first step move to a Dutch club like Anderlhect, in which the whole damned league runs Cruyff's (and Ajax) version of the 433 wouldnt be a bad start

    Dutch???? Anderlecht is not a Dutch club!!! It is a Belgian club ;)

    Plus, not all of the Eredivisie runs the Cruyff's scheme. PSV Eindhoven -inspired by Hiddink- has a different style!


    Come on Nog... Its still a 433. You get the point. Anderlecht also run it, despite apparently leaving the Dutch league without telling me :).

    Yes, but Cuyff tactical approach is really specific. There is a defensive approach of the 433 built for counter attack ;) And I feel like Anderlecht plays with this mold.


    Cruyff's was geared for far better talent as well...but we're talking the same game. The Dutch league is a breeding ground of familiarity in this style so it suits players to develop their. Yedlins best attributes are what he adds to the attack as a defender so a 433 (even in Belgium) is a good landing spot

    Then a move to a bigger club
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:33 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Cruyff's was geared for far better talent as well...but we're talking the same game. The Dutch league is a breeding ground of familiarity in this style so it suits players to develop their. Yedlins best attributes are what he adds to the attack as a defender so a 433 (even in Belgium) is a good landing spot

    Then a move to a bigger club

    Ok I see what you mean. Belgian league is a really ground to learn for sure! But I wish he could go to France or Germany. France formed really well younger players (Germany too).
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:55 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Liverpools biggest issue last year was their depth in key positions, most notably striker and out wide (whether the wing or wing back) so they certainly needed to add players, good ones for the dual campaigns.

    But replacing Suarez is impossible. The team will need to be redefined. We did it to rather good effect to start the year. I'm hoping Rodgers can add depth and impact who will fit his post-Suarez style of play.

    Teams have done it. Arsenal are masters of it. United won titles after Ronaldo. Its not impossible. But tricky. That was all Wenger and Ferguson. Rodgers will be the best signing we made all summer if he pulls it off.

    Ok I see. However, that would be great for you if you guys are able to enter into a top player sweepstake. When I see Di Maria may go to Man U, I think that would be hard for u to become champion :cry:
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:55 pm
  • “I am delighted to have agreed a new deal with Liverpool and have my future secured for the long term,I believe I can achieve the ambitions of winning trophies and playing at the very highest level with Liverpool.”

    Luis Suarez - After signing a five year deal with Liverpool six months ago
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:06 am
  • Seabhac wrote:“I am delighted to have agreed a new deal with Liverpool and have my future secured for the long term,I believe I can achieve the ambitions of winning trophies and playing at the very highest level with Liverpool.”

    Luis Suarez - After signing a five year deal with Liverpool six months ago


    "Ummm...thank you"

    -Liverpool after receiving 75 million for a 28 year old player suspended 4 months for biting another human being during a soccer match

    You can't be serious thinking contract extensions mean anything. (Maybe you can, you've not shown a propensity to intelligence on here) except a pay raise. In this case it also established his buyout clause.

    Nice headline in the Mirror this morning. So bitter
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:28 am
  • Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Liverpools biggest issue last year was their depth in key positions, most notably striker and out wide (whether the wing or wing back) so they certainly needed to add players, good ones for the dual campaigns.

    But replacing Suarez is impossible. The team will need to be redefined. We did it to rather good effect to start the year. I'm hoping Rodgers can add depth and impact who will fit his post-Suarez style of play.

    Teams have done it. Arsenal are masters of it. United won titles after Ronaldo. Its not impossible. But tricky. That was all Wenger and Ferguson. Rodgers will be the best signing we made all summer if he pulls it off.

    Ok I see. However, that would be great for you if you guys are able to enter into a top player sweepstake. When I see Di Maria may go to Man U, I think that would be hard for u to become champion :cry:


    As much as I'd love di maria or a player of that quality I don't see the club spending that much on one player. I think it will 2-3 more players in the 15-20 million range...or maybe a Shaqiri type in the 25 mill range

    Not sure a title push is wholly realistic this season without Suarez. I think we are quite capable if top 4 as it stands now. But he's a big player to replace and expect a title the next season.

    Never know I suppose.
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