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2014 Triple Crown Races
Fri May 02, 2014 7:18 am
  • Every year I try to handicap the Derby so here goes. The idea is to place a superfecta box bet, trying to get the spots filled in by longshots. The Derby usually produces big underneath numbers.

    Here goes....
    California Chrome has been running great and is the deserving favorite.
    Candy Boy may have beaten C.C. last time out if he gets a clean break.
    Dance with Fate, a stretch runner that appears will like the added distance, however, this race is on dirt where he appears to prefer synthetic turf.
    Danza, uncorked a 102 Beyer out of nowhere, was flying late.

    So, I am boxing California Chrome,Candy Boy, Dance with Fate, and Danza. 10c x 24 = $2.40 or
    $1 x 24 = $24.00

    If all 4 of those come in 1 - 4........in any order I cash.
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Fri May 02, 2014 7:21 am
  • Yeah, but who do you WANT to win? ;)
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Fri May 02, 2014 7:27 am
  • Seahwkgal wrote:Yeah, but who do you WANT to win? ;)


    I would love to see a horse win the triple crown again and Chrome has the best chance. As far as my bet goes I want him in 4th place..... :th2thumbs:
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Fri May 02, 2014 8:37 am
  • I just gave my brother 4 horses to BOX for a tri and Super.
    CC, CB, WS, Danza.
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Fri May 02, 2014 9:11 am
  • This race has always been hard to handicap. Generally, there are large underneath odds. Just have to get the right ones. I like WS as well, but I'm not paying the extra to throw it in.
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Fri May 02, 2014 10:59 am

Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Fri May 02, 2014 11:08 am
  • For todays Oaks, I am going with a 4 horse box....

    Untapable
    My Miss Sophia
    Fashion Plate
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Sat May 03, 2014 6:09 am
  • Seahwkgal wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:Free past performances here.... http://www1.drf.com/formulator-web/Free ... ce-race/11

    Hey thanks for that. I will look them over tonight. :)


    You got it Andrea. I was dissapointed in the way they loaded the gate for the Oaks. First the 10 horse flipped in the gate, then Garys horse nearly repeated that and ran dead last.
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Sat May 03, 2014 7:07 am
  • I am going over the form to try and make sure I did not overlook anything. So I wanted to re-examine my picks.

    CC is staying obviously

    CB is a mystery horse, and I am a Gary Stevens homer. I am considering tossing him for Wicked Strong, who freaked with a 104 Beyer on April 4th. That was by FAR his best race ever, but he breaks from #20 which may not hurt him since he isn't a front runner.

    Dance with Fate has done no wrong this year so far taking a race at Santa Anita (on turf), Golden Gate and then Keeneland in the Blue Grass with a 97 (on synthetic). I am concerned about his record on conventional dirt, but he has shown versatility and the pace today should set up his kick if he likes the track.

    Danza is another one that freaked in the Arkansas Derby with a 102 @ 41 to 1 odds :shock: Up to that point he probably doesn't even run in this race.

    So, I'm still on the fence between Candy Boy, Danza and Wicked Strong.

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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Sat May 03, 2014 7:37 am
  • Lets get Andrea the real horse expert in here for an opinion.

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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Sat May 03, 2014 9:42 am
  • Watching the undercard. Track bias is on the pace or slightly off. Keep in mind Mike Smith went from Intense Holiday to ride Hopportunity which is scratched. John Velazquez gets the ride and when he rides a horse for the first time the results are usually good, he is 14 to 1. Tons of speed in this race and 19 horses, anything can happen.

    With that in mind here are the picks.
    1,16,18,5,20.
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Sat May 03, 2014 3:22 pm
  • I got 2 out of 4. Glad Chrome won and hope he can win the triple crown
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Sun May 04, 2014 3:03 pm
  • Largent80 wrote:I got 2 out of 4. Glad Chrome won and hope he can win the triple crown

    So did I. LOL. If I would have went with the AP Indy/Pulpit sire line, I would have nailed it.

    I love Chrome though. What a story. Bred from an 8,000 dollar mare that they then bred to a 1,500 stallion. That is a big FU to the rich snobs in KY. Top off the fact that CC descends in female line to Swap's family and has a double of him in his Dam's pedigree. Then the 77 yr old trainer was the exercise rider for Swap's(for those that don't know, Swaps won the 1955 Derby). The owner's racing partnership is DAP (Dumb-ass-partners-lol. NO Lie), and they have a jack ass on the back of their racing silks. Oh, and the trainer's last name is SHERMAN!!!!!
    Blue Collar won the Derby!!!!

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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Mon May 05, 2014 5:28 am
  • Yeah, they had a great story on earlier in the show about how the jackass made it onto the silks. Art Sherman was so happy afterwards, and they looked like Mutt and Jeff.

    I don't know the Beyer he ran but his final 1/4 musta been pretty quick and he galloped out looking for more. It looked like Victor gave him a hand ride all the way save a love tap at the top of the stretch.
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Re: 2014 Kentucky Derby
Sun May 11, 2014 6:19 pm
  • A friend of mine told me his sister called him a few times about a bet. He did not have time to handicap the race and finally at about 1 hour to go, sis called and he randomly picked 5. Dont see the money yet...but some day. A friend taught me handicapping at LES Bois Park in Boise. His family lived in Federal Way WA. Many many many years ago.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat May 17, 2014 7:53 am
  • I am boxing 1-3-5-8 10c superfecta...$2.40.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat May 17, 2014 9:50 am
  • Largent80 wrote:I am boxing 1-3-5-8 10c superfecta...$2.40.


    Many many moons ago I was at Les Bois Park in Boise for the Belmont. I superfecta bet 4 and they came in. I had about 5 dolla on it and raked about 720. Had to fill out a damm w4 for it for some stupid reason. Idiots here. I should have told my buddy to parley that 50 or so from a couple of weeks ago to this one too. CC.

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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat May 17, 2014 2:34 pm
  • Bo Derek told them to mount their horses. I like that :shock:

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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat May 17, 2014 4:21 pm
  • So what are the results?
    43-8...it's all about that action boss....
    next man up.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat May 17, 2014 6:54 pm
  • Seahawkfan80 wrote:Bo Derek told them to mount their horses. I like that :shock:

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    Hmm, it's a little awkward when a 90 yo former model says that. But hey she looked good when Moses was tapping that ass.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sun May 18, 2014 7:25 am
  • MizzouHawkGal wrote:So what are the results?


    California Chrome wins and has a chance to be the first horse since Affirmed in 1978 to win the 3 races.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sun May 18, 2014 8:45 am
  • Largent80 wrote:
    MizzouHawkGal wrote:So what are the results?


    California Chrome wins and has a chance to be the first horse since Affirmed in 1978 to win the 3 races.

    Very cool. 36 years since the last Triple Crown winner. That would be an awesome accomplishment.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:26 am
  • I think we will finally see a Triple Crown winner (the first since Affirmed) this Saturday. CC looks awesome and even put on weight after the Preakness.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:17 am
  • I will post the free past performances when they become available. Most likely later today or Friday.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:39 pm
  • I am so excited for this!! I can't wait to watch it. :)
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:02 pm
  • I will say this after watching and being involved with racing and horses since I was 6, I have never seen a horse coming into a race like California Chrome . He has put on over 20 pounds of muscle in 3 weeks....(roids?)...hahahaha

    racing is policed very well.

    Regardless. Bet the farm on CC. Or do a tri or superfecta with longshots underneath.

    California Chrome, a SB win......ahhhhhhhhh....... :179417:
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:26 pm
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    Chrome, this week, a friggin monster.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:36 pm
  • Ok, for underneath Chrome....

    #1 Medal count, had tons of trouble in the Derby and has trained out of his gourd since then.

    #5 Ride on Curlin certainly kept pressure on CC in the Preakness

    #9 Wicked Strong, had a few excuses in the Derby, skipped the Preakness, and may be fresh.

    #8 Commissioner held his ground for 3 calls on a sloppy Belmont track in last.

    Bottom line is I am boxing 1-2 5-9.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:00 pm
  • Sickening, ugh. Feels like when Zenyatta lost the Classic.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:35 pm
  • Largent80 wrote:Sickening, ugh. Feels like when Zenyatta lost the Classic.


    I hear ya, but there is a reason why it rarely happens, and with the last race of it being that much longer than the rest is the real killer.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:47 am
  • This may explain why Chrome ran 4th, amazing he ran at all, it happened in the starting gate.

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2014 Triple Crown Races
Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:22 am
  • Largent80 wrote:This may explain why Chrome ran 4th, amazing he ran at all, it happened in the starting gate.

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    Back in my younger under 140 lb days, I exercised a few race horses.
    There is no doubt in " my mind" that this effected his trip.
    I haven't heard at what point in the race they think it happened but the sooner it happened the more "I think" it effected him.
    I will add this. I am in full agreement that a horse should have to run all 3 races to be eligible for any of them.
    Wait. What I mean is they should have to run in each of the previous races.
    You know what I mean, right.
    Assuming the starting gate, Id be willing to bet, had Espinoza been aware of the injury he would have pulled up and not run Chrome at all.
    My opinion only guys.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:57 am
  • pmedic920 wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:This may explain why Chrome ran 4th, amazing he ran at all, it happened in the starting gate.

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    Back in my younger under 140 lb days, I exercised a few race horses.
    There is no doubt in " my mind" that this effected his trip.
    I haven't heard at what point in the race they think it happened but the sooner it happened the more "I think" it effected him.
    I will add this. I am in full agreement that a horse should have to run all 3 races to be eligible for any of them.
    Wait. What I mean is they should have to run in each of the previous races.
    You know what I mean, right.
    Assuming the starting gate, Id be willing to bet, had Espinoza been aware of the injury he would have pulled up and not run Chrome at all.
    My opinion only guys.


    I totally agree 100%. these "fresh" horses have been training while the other competitors are racing. Even if Chromes leg wasn't the cause of his performance, the other horses should have to meet certain requirements IMO. From what they said on DRF.com, the horse next to him stepped on his hoof.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:08 pm
  • That's not a real common injury, if that's what in fact happened but it's not unheard of.
    I still think Espinoza would have pulled up, had he been aware of the injury.
    Personally I would have rather seen that happen, then to see him get beat with the injury.
    Horses like him have so much heart and will try to compete no matter what.
    It saddens me to think about him giving his all, and being competitive with a bad wheel. I won't say that he would have won but nobody can say he would not have.
    We will never know and I hate it. I had zero at stake but I love a great horse and he is one.
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Re: 2014 Triple Crown Races
Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:44 pm
  • Thank you for the pic guys. I have rolled the contemplation in my head a lot. There should be qualifiers at the very least to run in the race. If they meet the qualifier, then they can race. Issues with sinus infections and all, and I dont wanna run a race or even walk it for heck sake. One of the horsies had issues with an infection, that would make it that he is still qualified to race in the second and third races. I had not horse in this either as I decided not to throw bones on this run. But, if they have qualifiers, and those are met, Race on. :thirishdrinkers:
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