Tical21 wrote:Shoot, I forgot to look for this thread a couple weeks ago. Better late than never, I suppose. Manny looked really good, and Rios didn't look like he belongs at this level. Just too slow. We all know Manny can fight in flurries, but this looked like he was just sparring. Still, I would have liked to have seen him finish, just for fun. He coasted from the 8th on again. Same thing as Margarito and Bradley. The one thing though I was hoping to learn was if Manny had a chin anymore, and Rios just was never able to connect with anything, so we still don't know.
I don't want to see another Marquez fight. 5 is too many. Heck, 4 was too many. Marquez won #3. It is just a bad fight for Manny to take. Nothing to gain.
I almost stopped watching boxing after the Bradley fight. Worst decision that I have been alive for. How can you land three punches in a round, get hit 32 times, and win that round on all three scorecards? I don't want to see that fight again either, unless Manny is going to knock him out somehow.
But Manny has to choose one of the two to get to Mayweather. Hopefully May can stay out of jail long enough for it to happen. We all lost by not seeing that fight two years ago.
As for MMA, it will be all but gone in five years. It is just a bad product. It is very rare that a fight is exciting. It was really cool when you used to see contrasting styles. You used to see a Brazilian fighter against a brawler or a karate fighter or a kickboxer, and it was cool to see which style would prevail. Nowadays you just see hybrids of all the styles going against each other, and it just results in dirty boxing and sloppy ground game, time after time. The sweet science, it is not.
As a sidenote, coolest boxing experience of my life was being in the Philippines for the Pacquiao/Cotto fight. Literally the WHOLE country watches. Imagine NYC with twice the population density, but not a car on the road. There is no crime that day because even all of the thieves are watching. Just something we don't get to witness here. It will be sad there when he is done, he is just so much more popular than anyone else, and Donaire never got to the next level. Hopefully he can take down Marquez or Bradley, then knock out Mayweather, and walk away on top.
I could watch Pac and JMM go 10 times and I'd pay money to sit ringside for each. Marquez should have won the 1st fight as well, despite the 3 1st rd KDs. An argument could be made that he won all 4.
These guys just bring out the best in each other and join historical match-ups like Morales-Barerra and Ward-Gatti (etc) as all timers. The only thing I don't like about it is I seriously think Marquez should hang 'em up. I keep waiting for age to catch up with him, we saw some of it against Bradley. And while I said above that an argument could be made that JMM won all 4 fights (and he's one of my all time favorite fighters), I'd take Pacquiao to win the next.
BTW, other than our slight disagreement on Pac JMM, loved your post. In the early-mid 90s, I had friends that were working with Luisito Espinoza. Espinoza was Pacman before the Pacman over there. I traveled with them and watched him beat Caesar Soto in Manila. The following day, we all toured that arena out in Queson (sp?) city where Ali / Frazier fought. I'm pissed I can't recall the name of such a historic arena...I could google it, but you likely know anyway.
I really didn't care for the PI, though. We were over there twice and did some diving in Boracay. That I liked but Manila reminded me too much of Tijuana. In fact, the whole country felt more Hispanic than Asian. I guess the Spaniards can be blamed for that (?). We also went to a town called Angeles...and that was..well, for another type of forum. LOL..oh, what was cool about that uh...place..is we met Dennis Rodman's dad there (with Frikin Leon Spinks)! Rodman's dad had like 50 kids, we were told. Crazy place not for the feint hearted nor politically correct.
Having your views challenged is a lot more healthy than simply jabbering on with people who think exactly the same way as you.