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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:04 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8878529/transfer-news-newcastle-have-rejected-an-arsenal-bid-for-yohan-cabaye

    Yikes, gate. I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for you. When you can't even lure away a good squad player (he'd be nothing more than that for Arsenal) from a bottom half team, something is very very wrong.


    I'm starting to question the opinions of the "experts". They complain about Arsenal not buying, and when they attempt to buy someone(regardless of how much the offer is) the "experts" complain. I bet you if Arsenal were to sign Cabaye(or anyone in the next day or 2) then those "experts" will classify it as a panic buy and complain about it. Basically Arsenal is in a lose-lose-lose situation with the media right now and we can blame the Gunners for that cause of how lazy they've been this summer.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:53 pm
  • Really getting crazy now, apparently Arsenal are planning a £20m bid for Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba.

    Edit: Now the Guardian is reporting that Stoke City is preparing for Arsenal to come in for Begovic. That's the least "out of nowhere" rumor I've seen today.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:36 pm
  • Pogba at 20 mil is silly.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:44 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Pogba at 20 mil is silly.


    I'd say he's around that 20-25 mil range, 30 mil max.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:46 pm
  • No. He's not worth close to that. Arsenal don't need him anyway.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:01 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:No. He's not worth close to that. Arsenal don't need him anyway.


    I'm not saying Arsenal do need someone like him. But he just turned 20 years old so saying he's worth over 30 million is kinda foolish, I don't think any 20 year old is worth that much, especially one that didn't see many appearances before moving to Juve, if he performs like he did last year again, then maybe he would be worth over 30mil.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:08 pm
  • Well Alan Pardew has made this a bit embarrassing for himself over his comments about Arsenal's bid for Cabaye. Basically, without directly saying it, he's blaming Arsenal for Newcastle's 4-0 loss to Man City. I know you guys are gonna say say I'm wrong, but think about this like how parents always say "It's not what you say but how you say it". Pardew's comments went:

    "We've prepared with the lad for three days and then for him to have his head turned by this bid from Arsenal on the eve of the game is just disrespectful. From my view, why it couldn't have waited until tomorrow morning I do not know. I don't think the result would have been the same if he had played."

    Tell me he's not indirectly blaming Arsenal for his club's loss to a different club.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:02 pm
  • Arsenal tapped him up. They are making themselves look ridiculous this summer. Funny you saw it another way.

    Pogba is 10-15 tops by the way. Draxlar is twice the player and worth 30. Ericksen far more effective and probably 15-20

    Really just desperate arsenal media pundits doing all they can.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:07 pm
  • There is no way that Pogba is worth 20 mil...10...maybe 15.


    Trust me, I know. I'm a Utd Supporter...ive seen him play a ton.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:27 pm
  • Smurf wrote:There is no way that Pogba is worth 20 mil...10...maybe 15.


    Trust me, I know. I'm a Utd Supporter...ive seen him play a ton.


    yep. 10 is fair, 15 is being generous.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:52 am
  • Yuck. I've only just realised that Hull = Steve Bruce. The mute button's going to get a fair workout this season during MOTD.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:26 am
  • Speaking of MOTD, NBCSN now has a US version of match of the day. I have to say, it wasn't horrible. It wasn't great, but it certainly didn't make me want to kill myself (US Top Gear).

    It would be cool if they also did an MLS version of the show.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:09 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Smurf wrote:There is no way that Pogba is worth 20 mil...10...maybe 15.


    Trust me, I know. I'm a Utd Supporter...ive seen him play a ton.


    yep. 10 is fair, 15 is being generous.


    To be fair, Arsenal would have to pay 30 to pry him from Juve
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:22 am
  • Pogba is going to be one of the best in a couple of years.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:43 pm
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:Pogba is going to be one of the best in a couple of years.


    Or Eljero Elia
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:55 pm
  • I don't think so.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:24 pm
  • I just don't see it, MANUNITED23. His game had a lot of holes in it the last time I saw him play for united. He just always seemed a step behind, in my opinion, and his passing/decision making wasn't great. It's certainly possible he could blossom under the right manager/coach.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:26 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    MANUNITED23 wrote:Pogba is going to be one of the best in a couple of years.


    Or Eljero Elia


    I LOL'd so hard....
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:45 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:To be fair, Arsenal would have to pay 30 to pry him from Juve


    That's kinda what I was talking about, Juve isn't just gonna give him to anyone for 15m
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:46 am
  • Gate, is the Arsenal v Ferbenache (sp) game on tv today?
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:33 am
  • I just don't see it, MANUNITED23. His game had a lot of holes in it the last time I saw him play for united. He just always seemed a step behind, in my opinion, and his passing/decision making wasn't great. It's certainly possible he could blossom under the right manager/coach.



    Perhaps not at the moment but I can definitely see him becoming an elite player in near future. I wish United never sold him.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:38 am
  • Spurs just signed Willian to a five year deal according to Eurosport.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:44 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:Spurs just signed Willian to a five year deal according to Eurosport.


    Hopefully this is true. Very strong rumours about Lamela joining too. If we can swing Coentrao as part of the Bale deal too....
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:46 am
  • I'm still reserving excitement until I see them holding the shirt.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:48 am
  • There's a lot of speculation about Ronaldo returning to United, too.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:51 am
  • Good coup for Spurs then. And I imagine that has to mean Bale is gone.

    Liverpool need to go hard after Ericksen at this point. Not seeing any other options. Strikers look set, We need another CB and a CAM like Ericksen to round the squad out.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:58 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Good coup for Spurs then. And I imagine that has to mean Bale is gone.

    Liverpool need to go hard after Ericksen at this point. Not seeing any other options. Strikers look set, We need another CB and a CAM like Ericksen to round the squad out.


    Have to have a winger. Could go ericksen to cam and coutinho out wide but I think we lose something there. Lots of wide player options.

    Not too grieved about losing out on Willian. Exciting tines for Spurs fans but I see 30 million as a massive overpay. And all this at a cost of losing Bale? Risky business.


    Be interesting to see how Spurs handle the changes.... As my Spurs friend told me last week there are currently three Welsh teams in the Prem... Swans, Cardiff and Bale
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:10 am
  • Interesting to see how the Chelsea opening line up will turn out. Will Lukaku be able to take out Torres? He is more of a Mourinho-style striker. There are so many good / promising midfielders in the team that it will be a battlefield too.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:11 am
  • I sincerely hope Villa will upset Chelsea today.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:26 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:I sincerely hope Villa will upset Chelsea today.


    I agree, and hope even more that Fenerbache beat Woolwich.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:28 am
  • I agree, and hope even more that Fenerbache beat Woolwich.



    That would be nice and actually might legitimately happen.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:50 am
  • TwilightError wrote:Interesting to see how the Chelsea opening line up will turn out. Will Lukaku be able to take out Torres? He is more of a Mourinho-style striker. There are so many good / promising midfielders in the team that it will be a battlefield too.


    i would imagine Lampard sits. Lukaku will overrun torres in no time

    I like Villa in this game for some result.

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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:54 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:
    I agree, and hope even more that Fenerbache beat Woolwich.



    That would be nice and actually might legitimately happen.
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    If Fenerbache win UEFA will have to make a decision about whether to allow them to stay in the tournament, a decision I doubt they want to make, so I'm predicting some pro-Arse refereeing.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:56 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    MANUNITED23 wrote:
    I agree, and hope even more that Fenerbache beat Woolwich.



    That would be nice and actually might legitimately happen.
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    If Fenerbache win UEFA will have to make a decision about whether to allow them to stay in the tournament, a decision I doubt they want to make, so I'm predicting some pro-Arse refereeing.


    (cue Gatehawk rant about how world is out to get Arsenal in 5....4.....3.....2...)
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:57 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Good coup for Spurs then. And I imagine that has to mean Bale is gone.

    Liverpool need to go hard after Ericksen at this point. Not seeing any other options. Strikers look set, We need another CB and a CAM like Ericksen to round the squad out.


    Have to have a winger. Could go ericksen to cam and coutinho out wide but I think we lose something there. Lots of wide player options.


    Turan is reportedly available. How much would he cost? 20 mil?
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:02 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Good coup for Spurs then. And I imagine that has to mean Bale is gone.

    Liverpool need to go hard after Ericksen at this point. Not seeing any other options. Strikers look set, We need another CB and a CAM like Ericksen to round the squad out.


    Have to have a winger. Could go ericksen to cam and coutinho out wide but I think we lose something there. Lots of wide player options.


    Turan is reportedly available. How much would he cost? 20 mil?


    I'd take Arda Turan. 20 mil would be a wee bit on the high end as he wasn't quite as dominant last season, but he'd DEFNITELY add needed width.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:10 am
  • careful peaches... dont tell Spurs fans anything about Liverpool targets
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:40 pm
  • As far as I can tell, Willian hasn't been confirmed yet, but:

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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:46 pm
  • Hawkspur wrote:As far as I can tell, Willian hasn't been confirmed yet, but:

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    are you sure thats Willian and not Dempsey.... or Sigurrdson?

    (and yes I wanted Willian... not broken up by it, but he would have been very helpful)
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:54 pm
  • I think Liverpool would have signed Dempsey had they offered more than chump change, though. And as for Willian, £30mil is a bit of a gamble, as you said earlier. (However, IF we can sign Lamela, a front 3 of Willian, Soldado and Lamela, with Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho behind, presumably with Holtby, Sigurddson, Capoue, Lennon, Chadli, Defoe as rotation -sounds pretty exciting )
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:58 pm
  • Hawkspur wrote:I think Liverpool would have signed Dempsey had they offered more than chump change, though. And as for Willian, £30mil is a bit of a gamble, as you said earlier. (However, IF we can sign Lamela, a front 3 of Willian, Soldado and Lamela, with Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho behind, presumably with Holtby, Sigurddson, Capoue, Lennon, Chadli, Defoe as rotation -sounds pretty exciting )


    I think we offered the right amount for Dempsey and don't blame management for not going 35 million + nearly 5 million in wages for Willian. We aren't there.

    It is an exciting time for Spurs for sure
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:10 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Hawkspur wrote:I think Liverpool would have signed Dempsey had they offered more than chump change, though. And as for Willian, £30mil is a bit of a gamble, as you said earlier. (However, IF we can sign Lamela, a front 3 of Willian, Soldado and Lamela, with Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho behind, presumably with Holtby, Sigurddson, Capoue, Lennon, Chadli, Defoe as rotation -sounds pretty exciting )


    I think we offered the right amount for Dempsey and don't blame management for not going 35 million + nearly 5 million in wages for Willian. We aren't there.

    It is an exciting time for Spurs for sure


    Out of interest, do you have any idea what the Sounders paid for Dempsey?

    Where have you seen £35 mil? I've seen as high as £30mil quoted, although the deal hasn't been officially announced yet so it's probably all speculation, anyway. Paying this much surely means Bale is off, which would be a pity, but it seems as though he wants to experience the Bernabeu and all that, and the club will get good compensation.

    It could be our version of Torres - Carroll, I guess. I hope not. It would be gutting to see Bale go and get little in return. This is the 3rd season in a row in which AVB has tried to buy Willian, so I guess he has plans for him.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:13 pm
  • Sounds like Villa were the victims of some away decisions and that Fenerbache were rubbish and Arsenal killed them even without the help of the ref. Nevermind.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:36 pm
  • I was able to catch most of the Arsenal game and it was just way too easy for them. Fenerbahche looked horrible, barely had any possession of the ball and were simply outplayed in every sense of the word.

    I was also able to catch last 15 minutes of Chelsea game. It was a very entertaining finish to the match, I thought Villa played pretty well except for Westwood. Benteke looked good, I can see him scoring 20+ goals this season. I thought Chelsea played an entertaining football, really enjoyed watching Hazard. Lukaku has all potential in the world to be a great striker as long as he gets playing time.I absolutely love strikers of his type who can hold the ball up in the attack while under pressure. His strength is definitely his #1 asset in my opinion, although he does posses a good technique and shooting ability. I am very much excited to see the game on Monday vs United.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:50 pm
  • Hawkspur wrote:
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    Hawkspur wrote:I think Liverpool would have signed Dempsey had they offered more than chump change, though. And as for Willian, £30mil is a bit of a gamble, as you said earlier. (However, IF we can sign Lamela, a front 3 of Willian, Soldado and Lamela, with Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho behind, presumably with Holtby, Sigurddson, Capoue, Lennon, Chadli, Defoe as rotation -sounds pretty exciting )


    I think we offered the right amount for Dempsey and don't blame management for not going 35 million + nearly 5 million in wages for Willian. We aren't there.

    It is an exciting time for Spurs for sure


    Out of interest, do you have any idea what the Sounders paid for Dempsey?

    Where have you seen £35 mil? I've seen as high as £30mil quoted, although the deal hasn't been officially announced yet so it's probably all speculation, anyway. Paying this much surely means Bale is off, which would be a pity, but it seems as though he wants to experience the Bernabeu and all that, and the club will get good compensation.

    It could be our version of Torres - Carroll, I guess. I hope not. It would be gutting to see Bale go and get little in return. This is the 3rd season in a row in which AVB has tried to buy Willian, so I guess he has plans for him.


    I think the MLS covered the 7 million for Dempsey.

    The fee for William as I heard it was 30 plus a 5 mill add on for agent fees (apparently why Liverpool backed out)

    Lamela would be a great buy. To me though Willian was a bit overpriced. Still considering Bale may be off its worth the risk
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:03 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    I think the MLS covered the 7 million for Dempsey.

    The fee for William as I heard it was 30 plus a 5 mill add on for agent fees (apparently why Liverpool backed out)

    Lamela would be a great buy. To me though Willian was a bit overpriced. Still considering Bale may be off its worth the risk


    Interesting. I'd heard someone, who knew a bloke, whose dog's cousin (or something like that) met Tim Sherwood, who reckoned that Willian's agent was pushing for Liverpool but Willian himself preferred Spurs. Maybe Spurs managed to 'convince' the agent to swithch allegiance.

    Sounds like Dempsey was a one year rental. 7m is more than I thought we'd get for him, although I thin it makes a lot of sense for the MLS to get him into the league.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:36 pm
  • Guillem Balague reckons that Madrid are giving us 93m Euros and Coentrao for Bale. If Bale's going to leave, thn this deal will do just fine, thanks. He also says that Ronaldo is staying. Ronaldo and Bale on the same team? Frightening.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:05 pm
  • Fee for Dempsey was 9 million US, payed by MLS.

    His contract is 34-36 million (US) over 4 years.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:33 pm
  • Hawkspur wrote:Sounds like Villa were the victims of some away decisions and that Fenerbache were rubbish and Arsenal killed them even without the help of the ref. Nevermind.


    I know you're not implying Arsenal had help from the ref to win. The penalty decision was from a clumsy collision. The first goal Fenerbahce should've cut that out but the only guy that could've done that probably would've knocked it in. And then there's Aaron Ramsey, I don't even know what to say, he just keeps proving his capabilities and he was well worth his goal and deserves MOTM. Also gotta give props to the small contingent of Arsenal fans who showed up to the stadium for this match.
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    Fenerbahce on the other hand, after all that talk of being a dangerous opponent for Arsenal, they just fell flat on their face. I was surprised that, with how Arsenal controlled the 1st half, the score was 0-0 at halftime. Fenerbahce just couldn't get anything right, their passing was erratic and they just couldn't get into attack. Bringing on Emenike brought them somewhat back into the match, but the 3 at the back left them vulnerable and Arsenal exploited it to get their 2nd and 3rd goals.

    It is a great response after that joke of a match to start the EPL season, I hope this boosts the morale for the squad and now that Arsenal are in prime position to qualify for the Group Stage(3 away goals makes it almost a foregone conclusion) hopefully that will easy the pressure on Wenger and the club can get some signings completed before September 2nd.

    On a somewhat down note, Koscielny apparently suffered a really deep cut on the forehead after receiving that kick to the face in the first half, Wenger stated that Kos was taken to the hospital for examination to tell how serious it really is.
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Re: 2013-14 EPL Season
Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:34 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:I sincerely hope Villa will upset Chelsea today.


    I'm sincerely happy your hopes were shattered. :D
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