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Here are some new developments in the Coyotes arena deal.

"GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Negotiations to keep the Phoenix Coyotes in Arizona fell to a new level of chaos Friday evening, with both Glendale officials and the team's prospective owners saying they cannot overcome their latest impasse.

Unless the sides somehow overcome their differences during the next few days, the Coyotes' fate seems sealed.

Call in the moving vans. Destination: unknown."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nh ... l/2474619/

It is looking very likely that the team will move... To where seems to be the main question. From what I've read in various articles, Seattle is generally thought of as the favorite, but there are actually several other possible destinations. It definitely looks like the arena deal is gonna fall apart though.

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Hmm…Interesting.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rl426i

Not going to get any hopes up after being absolutely destroyed for a solid week after the kings ordeal, but it's starting to look good.

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Here are some new developments in the Coyotes arena deal.

"GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Negotiations to keep the Phoenix Coyotes in Arizona fell to a new level of chaos Friday evening, with both Glendale officials and the team's prospective owners saying they cannot overcome their latest impasse.

Unless the sides somehow overcome their differences during the next few days, the Coyotes' fate seems sealed.

Call in the moving vans. Destination: unknown."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nh ... l/2474619/

It is looking very likely that the team will move... To where seems to be the main question. From what I've read in various articles, Seattle is generally thought of as the favorite, but there are actually several other possible destinations. It definitely looks like the arena deal is gonna fall apart though.


Interesting developments. Gotta see how it plays out though for me to get my hopes up.

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I just don't see how its even possible to get emotionally involved, there's really no way to be screwed over IMO. Its not like we are entitled in anyway to this team like we were with the Kings when HBN seemed to have it in the bag.

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At least you jokers will not have to go through several months of the roller-coaster (maybe?). July 2nd looks to be an end date unlike the stupid NBA recommendation vote, then more stalling for two weeks before actually turning things down (with a few last minute presentations thrown in to build up the anxiety).

Though there was the claim about June 25th being the final decision point. So who knows? Maybe this can drag on for a few months?

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It can't drag on longer. It's gonna be ridiculously hard to be ready for next season if they move today. If deadlines are pushed back, they'll have to play in Glendale for one more year.

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I live in Glendale, and let me tell you there is no support, the city is angry, they don't wanna waste tax money on this team anymore, and no one is turning out to support the team staying. It would take a huge change of heart from both sides to get a deal done tonight, and with how they are talking it seems the team is out for sure. Granted they might move to Quebec not seattle so my hopes are not very high still.


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I live in Glendale, and let me tell you there is no support, the city is angry, they don't wanna waste tax money on this team anymore, and no one is turning out to support the team staying. It would take a huge change of heart from both sides to get a deal done tonight, and with how they are talking it seems the team is out for sure. Granted they might move to Quebec not seattle so my hopes are not very high still.


Interesting. They've had years to work this thing out, what are the odds they piece together a deal with 9 hours and 13 minutes to go?

Honestly with Seattle's sports curse, they probably will. And they stay. Or this all falls apart and the team moves to Quebec City. I can totally see it.

Then Seattle sports fans can go cry in their IPA's...... AGAIN!

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If they did move to QC, I just can't wait for the whole "OMG SCREW THE NHL!!!" posts.

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Seattle has danced with the NHL sooo many times, honestly it's amazing they still don't have an NHL team.

IF any of this happens, and they end up playing in the Key temporarily I think it will be hilarious. Is anyone familiar with the Ackerley’s and their attempts to block the NHL in Seattle?

http://www.seattlehockey.net/Seattle_Ho ... e_NHL.html

Scroll down to the Take 2 section and the Today section.

To see the NHL in the Key would be hilarious after all that!

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I thought that it was because the city didn't want to come up out the pockets, so Ackerly had to scale back the plan?

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Well according to that article, and I've read Bill MacFarland still is pissed. Ackerley sabotaged the whole thing. Like a super criminal mastermind, double crossed them at the last moment. That's some serious Game of Thrones stuff.

Then the Ackerley's re-modeled the Key intentionally too small so the NHL couldn't use it.

They viewed the NHL as competition for their Sonics.

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Well, looks likes pessimism will be rewarded once again. All kinds of 11 th hour bs being pulled out to keep the team in az. Nothing will be known for sure til well after 7, but it doesn't look good for Seattle hockey

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Looks like they are trying to find a way to save it, but the big deal breaker is the "out" clause of the contract

Not too much support however, i think when i asked a die hard Coyotes fan, and hockey lover even he was not going thinking it would not matter, he felt Hockey was fun to watch but failed, not enough Suite sales, and tickets that are given away for nothing pretty much doomed them. I remember once getting two tickets for free for showing up a radio station booth, not once but three times I got free tickets in the same season.


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The city has already spent most of its reserves, cut employees and cut services. It’s even contemplating selling city hall to pay off the $30 million or $50 million it already owes the NHL as a result of an earlier shrewd hockey deal.

The city already has one the highest sales taxes in the Valley, so I’m guessing that piling more taxes on its citizens is out. Police and fire, which comprises the bulk of the city’s budget, have already been cut but I suppose you could always hack away some more.

Tonight should be telling as we learn where priorities lie in the city of Glendale.


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Watching the "Coyotes" search on Twitter is quite the mixed bag. One thing's for sure: things moved too damn fast for any optimism the team's staying put there. Tonight's the night! Don't break my heart again, NHL.

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If they move here they should play 10 games in the rose garden also. It would be an actual NHL arena for one, and two it would be a great way to attract fans down south.


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Watching the "Coyotes" search on Twitter is quite the mixed bag. One thing's for sure: things moved too damn fast for any optimism the team's staying put there. Tonight's the night! Don't break my heart again, NHL.


Yea, I'm watching #coyotes and #nhlseattle

No one knows what is going on! All over the map on comments.

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Watching the "Coyotes" search on Twitter is quite the mixed bag. One thing's for sure: things moved too damn fast for any optimism the team's staying put there. Tonight's the night! Don't break my heart again, NHL.


Yea, I'm watching #coyotes and #nhlseattle

No one knows what is going on! All over the map on comments.


I'm just trying hard not to get pissed at getting used all over again before it actually happens. Do you know how hard it is to use a keyboard with your fingers crossed like this?

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Probably.

I told myself not to get involved, to not waste my time.

But somehow I started reading, following news.... funny I didn't even realize how much I was doing it. Son of a B! :evil:

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The CoG is going to vote yes on a counter-proposal that the prospective owners already called a non-starter. The NHL will announce that they are forced to relocate and as Seattle NHL fans start celebrating, the coyotes quietly move to Quebec City. I can already see it.

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The CoG is going to vote yes on a counter-proposal that the prospective owners already called a non-starter. The NHL will announce that they are forced to relocate and as Seattle NHL fans start celebrating, the coyotes quietly move to Quebec City. I can already see it.


That's my second-worst fear. I'd love to see hockey back in Quebec City, but not at the expense of Seattle.

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Come on, it' stupid to start celbrating before we got skates on the ice, people. Not to mention blood and teeth and colon fragments.

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You guts are wasting your time and effort. We aren't getting jack. We suck. I want to jump off a bridge.


I really wish you would with your whining ass

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This taken during the heat of the city council debate on keeping the Coyotes in Glendale.

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Waiting anxiously, but won't be too upset if this doesn't work out. For me this feels way different than the Sonics did - and at this point I actually care far more about the NHL than the NBA. I think it's been clear enough that we are a backup plan that I won't feel jilted if the city re-ups with their team. Good for them if they do, but I'll be sad.

I don't think Bettman will move the team to Quebec City rather than Seattle. He has ALWAYS had an issue with increasing the number of Canadian teams, and it is not in keeping with his MO to relocate an American team to Canadian soil.


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With this we really are a football town. No NBA,NHL. Our MLB is crap for a decade. 8 managers later. And soccer doesn't count I mean come on watching 90 min and get a 0-0 tie, I'm done right there. And which one of you guys are gunna tell me you watch the storm.

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Looks like the Kings are staying in Sacramento

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Right now, Sherwood, Knaack, Martinez and Chavira probably the yes votes. Should pass 4-3 unless one of the four changes mind. #coyotes


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"We have to vote to keep these Coyotes so we can find out just what the NHL is, and if anybody here even cares about it." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"Nobody has ever abused us quite as kindly as you good folks have, so we really have to vote yes on this deal." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"Three quarters of all jobs in Glendale exist solely because of the Coyotes." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"We plan on installing a salary cap on municipal services such as police and fire departments, because that's how dedicated we are to hockey here." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"What's $90 Mil among friends, anyway?" - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"If the team moved, Glendale would lose thousands of dollars worth of revenue from Canadian tourists." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"The annual operating cost for the Glendale arena is 10 percent of whatever we can raise in tomorrow's telethon, so let's get calling." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"Can someone pass a hat around and take up a collection so we can keep this team here?" - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"How can we lose this team when we just learned what icing is?" - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"In this economy, losing the team would mean devastation to thousands of Glendale-area dentists." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"Losing the team would mean thousands of fans of other teams would have to pay higher prices to see those teams at other venues." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"At least we aren't the Predators." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"If the Coyotes leave town, where else will the good citizens of Glendale be able to find enough ice to escape from the blazing temperatures outside?" - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"This meeting is proof that Coyote fans do in fact exist, therefore we must keep the team." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"We really owe it to both our season ticket holders to keep the team here." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"There are literally hundreds of hockey fans down here who would be devastated if we lost the team." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"You can tell what a dedicated hockey fan base we have here in Arizona, because they all showed up for this meeting." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"We are going to mortgage goddamn city hall if that's what it takes to keep the Coyotes here in the desert." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"We fully trust Gary Bettman, and that shows how educated and dedicated we are as hockey fans here in Arizona." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"We plan on dropping funding from firefighters to support the Coyotes, as that's money that never goes to use here in Arizona anyway." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"If we stop throwing money on this fire, it will go out, and we can't have that." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"Vote yes on this deal and receive a free hockey puck to celebrate the start of next season." - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"High sticking, boarding, icing, cross checking, fighting, penalizing, zamboniing, curling, the luge - see we know our hockey terms!" - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"Just to show how dedicated to our hockey down here, we're dropping the gloves right here tonight for a bench-clearing brawl!" - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

"The Coyotes will move from Arizona when hell freezes over, and it ain't even cold here!" - The entire Glendale City Council (probably).

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Soooo when will the Panthers be available?

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Sounds like a suicide deal for either, 2028 for the Coyotes? can they even survive that? I mean after 5 years they can opted out, but that screws over the city.

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lol I truely hope for you NHL Fanatics this happens, hell even I want to try NHL hockey out to see what it be like!

Plus having the NHL would give me a great idea on things with the NBA.

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Looks like a deal is gonna get done, with the stadium being in westgate a lot of the business are pushing hard, and the attorneys are in lobby talking.


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Deal is passed, 4-3. What a train wreck that was. See you in five years, Coyotes!

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I watched all 4 hours of that council meeting. That city is screwed. It elects people with no public speaking or apparently even basic English skills, they are mortgaging their future for projected... I'm not even sure project what they are projecting 6m + loss for 5 years, they say the payoff is in 20 year? What in the world is going on. Sad stupid little city, gives America a bad name.

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Well, that sucks.


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I don't see why anyone would ever give us a team when they can keep using us like this.

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normally I'd say I want a team in Seattle, but I want the Coyotes to stay here in Phoenix. Westgate is the best place to go on the weekends around here.


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