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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:52 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:85 million quid for Bale. WOW

    Spurs need to take the money here. Stupid to turn that down.


    From what I understand, they haven't even received any bids yet. The closest Madrid have come so far is the usual unsettling tactics, ie tapping up via Marca. The way the fans see this is that £85mil would get Levy and Lewis a lot closer to a new stadium and therefore a lot closer to selling the club for a huge profit. No one sees even half of any sale being reinvested in the squad.


    Keeps Suarez at Liverpool as well. Its unfortunate such a huge sale of a mediocre left back wouldn't help the team and fans immediately.... If its any solace the Liverpool forums are scared to death of Daniel Levy with 85 million
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:34 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:85 million quid for Bale. WOW

    Spurs need to take the money here. Stupid to turn that down.


    Sorry, not my forum, but I saw this on the "latest" thread on Tapatalk.

    Gabrielle Marcotti was reporting on this story today, and it's not GBP85m or even close to it. It's only that if you value Di Maria and another dude whose name I can't spell at over GBP 40m, as it's players plus cash. They clearly aren't worth that, and when you add in their hefty wages (and the possible effect on the wage structure at Spurs) and the fact that Madrid have clearly tipped their hand that the players in question are not wanted and the effect this has on their value, I think Spurs are right to hold out for more cash.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:06 am
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    peachesenregalia wrote:85 million quid for Bale. WOW

    Spurs need to take the money here. Stupid to turn that down.


    Sorry, not my forum, but I saw this on the "latest" thread on Tapatalk.

    Gabrielle Marcotti was reporting on this story today, and it's not GBP85m or even close to it. It's only that if you value Di Maria and another dude whose name I can't spell at over GBP 40m, as it's players plus cash. They clearly aren't worth that, and when you add in their hefty wages (and the possible effect on the wage structure at Spurs) and the fact that Madrid have clearly tipped their hand that the players in question are not wanted and the effect this has on their value, I think Spurs are right to hold out for more cash.


    I've heard that Spurs are close to terms with Valencia for Soldado, in which case di Maria would be worth even less to them. I'm pretty sure Levy will want cash. And the wage structure at Spurs is very real too. I wouldn't be surprised to see it increased, but only for Bale at this stage.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:09 am
  • Cdallan - did Marcotti mention whether any bid had actually been made?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:19 am
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    InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Napoli is now Liverpool Southeast


    One player


    Reportedly (take it for what you will) Napoli is in for Skrtel as well.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:29 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:Cdallan - did Marcotti mention whether any bid had actually been made?


    Article at es.pn/1aSUVy5

    No word on whether an "official" bid has been made, but it's not really that relevant - the details are out there and the players involved will know.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:32 pm
  • According to Sky Sports, it's 85 mil, all cash. So who knows?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:35 am
  • I just read an article in the Mirror, of all places, that I thought made a very good argument for keeping Bale, regardless of the transfer fee. The piece argued that Bale is the first real star the club has had in ages, and that with the arrival of Paulinho and possibly Soldado, as well as the younger players added so far this window and the talent already at the club like Lloris, vertonghen, Sandro & Kaboul, that the club is on the verge of not being a selling club. Especially given that Arsenal and United appear to be there for the taking it seems like an inopportune time to be selling the best player on a club that is very close to where it needs to be.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:10 am
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Napoli is now Liverpool Southeast


    One player


    Reportedly (take it for what you will) Napoli is in for Skrtel as well.


    On loan no less.... And sterling last loaned to west ham and Suarez to arsenal and we've signed the Greek back and some kid from Armenia (not that one but a new one)

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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:43 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:I just read an article in the Mirror, of all places, that I thought made a very good argument for keeping Bale, regardless of the transfer fee. The piece argued that Bale is the first real star the club has had in ages, and that with the arrival of Paulinho and possibly Soldado, as well as the younger players added so far this window and the talent already at the club like Lloris, vertonghen, Sandro & Kaboul, that the club is on the verge of not being a selling club. Especially given that Arsenal and United appear to be there for the taking it seems like an inopportune time to be selling the best player on a club that is very close to where it needs to be.


    With Fergie moving on and Chelsea ageing, Spurs should be seeing this as a huge opportunity to break the money-controlled domination of a select group and really have a go. They aren't a million miles behind Utd and Chelsea. Man City are on another level because of their spending power, but they're yet to prove they can be consistent.

    Keep Bale. See what happens. He doesn't seem like the type of guy to me who if he doesn't get a move will sulk and let it impact his form.

    I for one would be rooting for Spurs next year if they can take the next step. Although I still expect City to waltz to the title with ease next season.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:05 am
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    Hawkspur wrote:I just read an article in the Mirror, of all places, that I thought made a very good argument for keeping Bale, regardless of the transfer fee. The piece argued that Bale is the first real star the club has had in ages, and that with the arrival of Paulinho and possibly Soldado, as well as the younger players added so far this window and the talent already at the club like Lloris, vertonghen, Sandro & Kaboul, that the club is on the verge of not being a selling club. Especially given that Arsenal and United appear to be there for the taking it seems like an inopportune time to be selling the best player on a club that is very close to where it needs to be.


    With Fergie moving on and Chelsea ageing, Spurs should be seeing this as a huge opportunity to break the money-controlled domination of a select group and really have a go. They aren't a million miles behind Utd and Chelsea. Man City are on another level because of their spending power, but they're yet to prove they can be consistent.

    Keep Bale. See what happens. He doesn't seem like the type of guy to me who if he doesn't get a move will sulk and let it impact his form.

    I for one would be rooting for Spurs next year if they can take the next step. Although I still expect City to waltz to the title with ease next season.


    I'm backing Chelsea. Mourinho is that good, in my opinion. City have the spending power, but I'm just not sold on Pellegrini in the prem. Mourino's been there before and knows what it takes.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:55 pm
  • I highly doubt Spurs will sell Bale this summer or in January. I bet he will remain a Spur for another two years.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:59 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:I highly doubt Spurs will sell Bale this summer or in January. I bet he will remain a Spur for another two years.

    He will never have more value than he does now.... I see that as the only reason

    They've added Paulinho Chadli and now Soldado apparently.... Surely that's Bale money being spent?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:46 am
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    MANUNITED23 wrote:I highly doubt Spurs will sell Bale this summer or in January. I bet he will remain a Spur for another two years.

    He will never have more value than he does now.... I see that as the only reason

    They've added Paulinho Chadli and now Soldado apparently.... Surely that's Bale money being spent?


    You'd have to think so. Earlier in the summer fairly strong rumours came out that Joe Lewis had promised Levy/AVB £50m to try to get them over the hump. Part of this rumour was that AVB is getting to spend the money accrued over the last few years that Levy and Lewis didn't trust Harry with. It's certainly plausible as they did appear to earn a lot more than they spent and by all accounts Redknapp didn't manage to endear himself to Lewis.

    However, I suspect that you are probably right. I hope that if he does go we can somehow manage to get Wilian from Anzhi or Lamela and a new fullback or two.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:57 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
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    MANUNITED23 wrote:I highly doubt Spurs will sell Bale this summer or in January. I bet he will remain a Spur for another two years.

    He will never have more value than he does now.... I see that as the only reason

    They've added Paulinho Chadli and now Soldado apparently.... Surely that's Bale money being spent?


    You'd have to think so. Earlier in the summer fairly strong rumours came out that Joe Lewis had promised Levy/AVB £50m to try to get them over the hump. Part of this rumour was that AVB is getting to spend the money accrued over the last few years that Levy and Lewis didn't trust Harry with. It's certainly plausible as they did appear to earn a lot more than they spent and by all accounts Redknapp didn't manage to endear himself to Lewis.

    However, I suspect that you are probably right. I hope that if he does go we can somehow manage to get Wilian from Anzhi or Lamela and a new fullback or two.


    Ancellotti is reporting that they're 'in talks' with Spurs now for Bale. Seems a foregone conclusion, mate.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:00 am
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:05 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:Yup


    If you get a King's Ransom, then you can rebuild pretty quickly, I'd think. AVB did a good job last year, but Bale was the driving force behind most of their results, IMO. If Suarez goes for us, We'll have to wait and see. We'd need at least 50 mil to be in the market for another world class striker, and that's even if someone'll sell. Hard place to be in.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:55 am
  • He will never have more value than he does now.... I see that as the only reason

    They've added Paulinho Chadli and now Soldado apparently.... Surely that's Bale money being spent?


    I disagree, he is still fairly young player and has room for improvement. I don't think he has reached his peak just yet. Also, I honestly think if he stays he'll have a better overall season than he ever did. The money Spurs spent on players mentioned above isn't necessary form a potential Bale sale. Perhaps, it's a move to keep Bale on the team.

    PS: I honestly think AVB is going to be under the most pressure this coming season in BPL to get into top 3. Let me know what you guys think?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:01 am
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    He will never have more value than he does now.... I see that as the only reason

    They've added Paulinho Chadli and now Soldado apparently.... Surely that's Bale money being spent?


    I disagree, he is still fairly young player and has room for improvement. I don't think he has reached his peak just yet. Also, I honestly think if he stays he'll have a better overall season than he ever did. The money Spurs spent on players mentioned above isn't necessary form a potential Bale sale. Perhaps, it's a move to keep Bale on the team.

    PS: I honestly think AVB is going to be under the most pressure this coming season in BPL to get into top 3. Let me know what you guys think?


    He's the same as gone. Talks between Spurs and Real are ongoing. Spurs will have to scrap for 4th, if even that this season. And no, i don't think AVB will be under that kind of pressure.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:10 am
  • If Bale stays he will be under pressure but if he leaves then he won't be.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:20 am
  • Even if he stays, 3rd is unreasonable. He may be under pressure to finish top 4, but with City and probably Chelsea virtual locks for 1 and 2, Man United, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool will all 4 be fighting for the two remaining spots. Spurs won't be expected to come out on top of that group of four.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:46 am
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    PS: I honestly think AVB is going to be under the most pressure this coming season in BPL to get into top 3. Let me know what you guys think?


    I think that there will be pressure on AVB, certainly to finish in the top 4 anyway. Surely the manager under the greatest pressure is Moyes. How will he be regarded if United finish 5th?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:01 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    MANUNITED23 wrote:

    PS: I honestly think AVB is going to be under the most pressure this coming season in BPL to get into top 3. Let me know what you guys think?


    I think that there will be pressure on AVB, certainly to finish in the top 4 anyway. Surely the manager under the greatest pressure is Moyes. How will he be regarded when United finish 5th?


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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:31 am
  • http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/08/li ... ego-costa/

    I mean...we were definitely in need of attacking options last year, when Borini was injured/shite and Suares was suspended. I think this is a good move either way. Insurance incase we lose Suarez, and gives us a wealth of options to deal with any Suarez injuries or suspensions, and gives us a really strong front three in Suarez, Costa and Sturridge, but just not sure all three could see the field all the time. Coutinho, Gerrard and probably Allen will all want to see the field, with guys like Lucas, Sterling, Aspas, Alberto, etc. all seeking playing time. Better to have too many than too few, though.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:40 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
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    PS: I honestly think AVB is going to be under the most pressure this coming season in BPL to get into top 3. Let me know what you guys think?


    I think that there will be pressure on AVB, certainly to finish in the top 4 anyway. Surely the manager under the greatest pressure is Moyes. How will he be regarded if United finish 5th?


    Finishing 5th would be unacceptable but I honestly don't think he has to win the league. He is not under that kind of pressure just yet. However if Rooney leaves pressure will rise.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:59 am
  • You're mad if you don't think Moyes is already under pressure. United fans won't accept mediocrity, and i think that's exactly what he'll bring. Fergie left him a patchwork, aging squad with a weak midfield, an injury risk striker and an old, sometimes suspect defense. if United are languishing in the middle of the table come the end of september, watch the media pounce.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:18 pm
  • Is anyone else getting more and more confused by the day about the whole Suarez thing. I mean I'm just flat out confused about what that clause that Arsenal activated actually says, one side says it's a release clause, another says it's a clause that give Suarez permission to discuss terms with another club, and another says it's a clause that obligates Liverpool to tell Suarez that someone made a bid for him.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:06 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:Is anyone else getting more and more confused by the day about the whole Suarez thing. I mean I'm just flat out confused about what that clause that Arsenal activated actually says, one side says it's a release clause, another says it's a clause that give Suarez permission to discuss terms with another club, and another says it's a clause that obligates Liverpool to tell Suarez that someone made a bid for him.


    Nothing to be confused about, it's unlikely there is a release clause. Offer 55 million pounds or take a hike and sign some french middle schoolers.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:10 pm
  • The clause states that Liverpool FC have to make Suarez and his people aware of any bid over 40 mil. Not a release clause, not a clause that 'allows the player to discuss terms' with the other team, just that they have to make him aware. Nothing more.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:29 pm
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    Gatehawk wrote:Is anyone else getting more and more confused by the day about the whole Suarez thing. I mean I'm just flat out confused about what that clause that Arsenal activated actually says, one side says it's a release clause, another says it's a clause that give Suarez permission to discuss terms with another club, and another says it's a clause that obligates Liverpool to tell Suarez that someone made a bid for him.


    Nothing to be confused about, it's unlikely there is a release clause. Offer 55 million pounds or take a hike and sign some french middle schoolers.


    Sure, give Liverpool the same amount that Napoli got for Cavani even though Cavani has no problems, while Suarez has all those past incidents. I don't think I said this on here but I compared Suarez to a sports car with a history of traffic violations and crashes.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:30 pm
  • I should also point out that there's talk that Suarez is pissed at Liverpool as he was, apparently, told that he would be allowed to leave the Reds if a Champions League club came in with a 35 million pound bid.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:20 am
  • Some reports here that fee for Bale has been agreed at £105m + Coentrao with the money being paid in an upfront lump sum. If so....wow. Thanks Gareth! Deal aided by Ronaldo heading back to United for £80m. Sounds pretty far fetched but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:35 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:I should also point out that there's talk that Suarez is pissed at Liverpool as he was, apparently, told that he would be allowed to leave the Reds if a Champions League club came in with a 35 million pound bid.


    Nope... Signed a fresh contract and the club has made it clear they aren't selling him.... At least to Arsenal.

    If you get confused just listen to the people who actually make the decisions and not sky sports and the Mail

    55 million... No one cares if Arsenal fans think its fair. We don't want to sell anyway
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:39 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/08/liverpool-in-22m-bid-for-brazilian-forward-diego-costa/

    I mean...we were definitely in need of attacking options last year, when Borini was injured/shite and Suares was suspended. I think this is a good move either way. Insurance incase we lose Suarez, and gives us a wealth of options to deal with any Suarez injuries or suspensions, and gives us a really strong front three in Suarez, Costa and Sturridge, but just not sure all three could see the field all the time. Coutinho, Gerrard and probably Allen will all want to see the field, with guys like Lucas, Sterling, Aspas, Alberto, etc. all seeking playing time. Better to have too many than too few, though.


    Costa/Muriel, Ericksen/Bernard, Papa and the left back...

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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:30 am
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    peachesenregalia wrote:http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/08/liverpool-in-22m-bid-for-brazilian-forward-diego-costa/

    I mean...we were definitely in need of attacking options last year, when Borini was injured/shite and Suares was suspended. I think this is a good move either way. Insurance incase we lose Suarez, and gives us a wealth of options to deal with any Suarez injuries or suspensions, and gives us a really strong front three in Suarez, Costa and Sturridge, but just not sure all three could see the field all the time. Coutinho, Gerrard and probably Allen will all want to see the field, with guys like Lucas, Sterling, Aspas, Alberto, etc. all seeking playing time. Better to have too many than too few, though.


    Costa/Muriel, Ericksen/Bernard, Papa and the left back...

    4 weeks left


    i honestly don't want Ericksen at this point. He's a dedicated CAM, and that means they'll move Coutinho out wide, where I feel like his talent will be somewhat wasted. If we get papa and Cissokho, and keep Suarez, i'll be well chuffed with this summer's business.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:31 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
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    peachesenregalia wrote:http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/08/liverpool-in-22m-bid-for-brazilian-forward-diego-costa/

    I mean...we were definitely in need of attacking options last year, when Borini was injured/shite and Suares was suspended. I think this is a good move either way. Insurance incase we lose Suarez, and gives us a wealth of options to deal with any Suarez injuries or suspensions, and gives us a really strong front three in Suarez, Costa and Sturridge, but just not sure all three could see the field all the time. Coutinho, Gerrard and probably Allen will all want to see the field, with guys like Lucas, Sterling, Aspas, Alberto, etc. all seeking playing time. Better to have too many than too few, though.


    Costa/Muriel, Ericksen/Bernard, Papa and the left back...

    4 weeks left


    i honestly don't want Ericksen at this point. He's a dedicated CAM, and that means they'll move Coutinho out wide, where I feel like his talent will be somewhat wasted. If we get papa and Cissokho, and keep Suarez, i'll be well chuffed with this summer's business.


    Ericksen underneath Coutinho. Gerrards successor.... Then papa a lb and Costa. Keep Suarez and light a bag full of poop on fire and leave it on Gates doorstep

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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:57 am
  • Erickson underneath Coutinho would be a waste. Erickson doesn't control a midfield like Stevie does, he's always looking to get forward and link up, Closer to Jari Litmanen than Stevie. I just think it would be a waste. It looks like we're going with three strikers up top, Costa, Suarez and Sturridge, with Aspas and Borini for cover, then Coutino, Gerrard and either Sterling, Ibe or Alberto in the middle. Happy to have plenty of options, I guess.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:04 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Erickson underneath Coutinho would be a waste. Erickson doesn't control a midfield like Stevie does, he's always looking to get forward and link up, Closer to Jari Litmanen than Stevie. I just think it would be a waste. It looks like we're going with three strikers up top, Costa, Suarez and Sturridge, with Aspas and Borini for cover, then Coutino, Gerrard and either Sterling, Ibe or Alberto in the middle. Happy to have plenty of options, I guess.


    He's just 22... We need to fill that midfield. If its not ericksen someone needs to step in. Alberto is for the future. Im not willing to pin the season on a 33 year old Gerrard, the inevitable Lucas injury and the inconsistency of Henderson and Allen
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:23 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Erickson underneath Coutinho would be a waste. Erickson doesn't control a midfield like Stevie does, he's always looking to get forward and link up, Closer to Jari Litmanen than Stevie. I just think it would be a waste. It looks like we're going with three strikers up top, Costa, Suarez and Sturridge, with Aspas and Borini for cover, then Coutino, Gerrard and either Sterling, Ibe or Alberto in the middle. Happy to have plenty of options, I guess.


    He's just 22... We need to fill that midfield. If its not ericksen someone needs to step in. Alberto is for the future. Im not willing to pin the season on a 33 year old Gerrard, the inevitable Lucas injury and the inconsistency of Henderson and Allen


    I expect Hendo to take a leap forward this year. He showed a lot more consistency towards the end of last season, for sure. Allen....yeah, not sure. He was carrying an injury last season, so we may not yet have seen even close to his best, but then again - we may have. Just seems an expensive luxury purchase at this point, and one I doubt we can afford after nabbing Costa and forking out for papadopolopodopodous.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:22 am
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    Gatehawk wrote:I should also point out that there's talk that Suarez is pissed at Liverpool as he was, apparently, told that he would be allowed to leave the Reds if a Champions League club came in with a 35 million pound bid.


    Nope... Signed a fresh contract and the club has made it clear they aren't selling him.... At least to Arsenal.

    If you get confused just listen to the people who actually make the decisions and not sky sports and the Mail

    55 million... No one cares if Arsenal fans think its fair. We don't want to sell anyway


    Well what about BBC?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23550760

    I'm now under the impression that there is a misunderstanding between Liverpool and everyone else(namely Suarez and Arsenal). I now think that that clause is what Liverpool claims it to be, but the way they explained it to Suarez when he signed the contract left him with the thought that the clause was an outright release clause.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:26 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:I should also point out that there's talk that Suarez is pissed at Liverpool as he was, apparently, told that he would be allowed to leave the Reds if a Champions League club came in with a 35 million pound bid.


    Nope... Signed a fresh contract and the club has made it clear they aren't selling him.... At least to Arsenal.

    If you get confused just listen to the people who actually make the decisions and not sky sports and the Mail

    55 million... No one cares if Arsenal fans think its fair. We don't want to sell anyway


    Well what about BBC?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23550760

    I'm now under the impression that there is a misunderstanding between Liverpool and everyone else(namely Suarez and Arsenal). I now think that that clause is what Liverpool claims it to be, but the way they explained it to Suarez when he signed the contract left him with the thought that the clause was an outright release clause.


    I'm under the impression you get easily confused by reality and sports media...

    He's not going to Arsenal. Everyone at Liverpool has made it quite clear. What you have there is a story to wind up Arsenal fans

    Let's review..

    Someone assumes Suarez will file a transfer request ( which he won't because of the lost wages) and repeats and inside info without fact

    This precedes a story about Wenger "assuring" his arsenal fans he's trying to get Suarez but Liverpool just won't budge... And oh don't worry about Spurs and Soldado. He wouldn't make it here at the Emirates.

    Start seeing this for what it is Gate...your managers playing games with you again.

    While Wenger is trying to be "amicable" Liverpool have already told him to get stuffed
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:33 pm
  • Money talks, although I'm not sure if it does for Arsenal.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:06 pm
  • All I know is that IF Suarez does leave Liverpool, it's gonna be for Arsenal. Madrid just seem to be more interested Gareth Bale to me.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:22 pm
  • I think Arsenal just has more fun counting their gold, cause they don't have any silver. Suarez to Spain or nowhere, the end.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:30 pm
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:I think Arsenal just has more fun counting their gold, cause they don't have any silver. Suarez to Spain or nowhere, the end.


    I just don't see anyone other than Arsenal interested in Suarez right now. That's all I see. Like I said, Real Madrid seem more concerned with attempting to get Gareth Bale and unless that falls flat and they give up on their pursuit of him, they won't be going after Suarez.

    Either Liverpool sells him now, waits till later and start getting lowball offers later in the window from other clubs that might spring up in interest, or just keep a guy who, at least from the games I've seen, has looked almost completely uninterested in playing for Liverpool during the preseason. It's Liverpool's choice.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:56 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    InSuarezWeTrust wrote:I think Arsenal just has more fun counting their gold, cause they don't have any silver. Suarez to Spain or nowhere, the end.


    I just don't see anyone other than Arsenal interested in Suarez right now. That's all I see. Like I said, Real Madrid seem more concerned with attempting to get Gareth Bale and unless that falls flat and they give up on their pursuit of him, they won't be going after Suarez.

    Either Liverpool sells him now, waits till later and start getting lowball offers later in the window from other clubs that might spring up in interest, or just keep a guy who, at least from the games I've seen, has looked almost completely uninterested in playing for Liverpool during the preseason. It's Liverpool's choice.


    LOL. Suarez will be just fine, thanks. We'll keep a hold of him and get the 25-30 goals he's good for this season.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:20 pm
  • With the signing of Dempsey I think the sounders have outspent arsenal to this point...
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:27 pm
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:I think Arsenal just has more fun counting their gold, cause they don't have any silver. Suarez to Spain or nowhere, the end.


    I do agree. I know what you're saying Gate and agree, but it doesn't recognize the power position Real is in.

    They know Liverpool won't sell to Arsenal. They can afford to wait a bit to see if Liverpool gets anxious and come in with a smaller bid.

    Suarez is a gamer Gate. He will do whatever to takes to win regardless of who he plays for. Dont get too wrapped up in twitter pics of an "unhappy" player
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:30 pm
  • I didn't say it was twitter pictures that I saw. BeIn Sport aired the matches I was referring to.
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