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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:08 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:Just to put this in everyone's mind. Nobody really saw Arsenal selling Judas Van Persie in country last year.


    LOL. You still blame the players.


    Where did I say that? All I said was that people assumed he would leave the country.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:50 am
  • When you referred to him as "Judas Van Persie". Come on Gate

    Anyways its a valid point Torres went to Chelsea, RvP to United. The difference here is Suarez entire basis for leaving was to escape persecution from the British media (and I type that with sarcasm as he is paid nearly 120K a week for godssake oh and bites people)

    Suarez is now peddling the CL angle because interest cooled. My thought is 60 mill in country (which Arsenal won't pay.... to be clear they won't offer the 40 they say they have permission to release for him either they are just playing their supporters).

    45-50 out of country is fine
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:10 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:When you referred to him as "Judas Van Persie". Come on Gate

    Anyways its a valid point Torres went to Chelsea, RvP to United. The difference here is Suarez entire basis for leaving was to escape persecution from the British media (and I type that with sarcasm as he is paid nearly 120K a week for godssake oh and bites people)

    Suarez is now peddling the CL angle because interest cooled. My thought is 60 mill in country (which Arsenal won't pay.... to be clear they won't offer the 40 they say they have permission to release for him either they are just playing their supporters).

    45-50 out of country is fine


    Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:59 am
  • Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.


    It doesn't seem like anyone is willing to pay that much for him. I think Real Madrid should get him.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:05 am
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    Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.


    It doesn't seem like anyone is willing to pay that much for him. I think Real Madrid should get him.


    This is where Liverpool are in the position of power though. He's got 3 years remaining on his contract and no buyout clause. They can sit back and wait for the right bid to come in.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:03 am
  • Absolutely and I would wait for the right offer as well. They are in a good position.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:31 pm
  • Reina to Napoli on LOAN? I get the Rafa/Reina connection, but a loan deal? Peaches, Si, you're up.

    EDIT: I have backed off the ledge. Looks like Napoli is covering most if not all wages, and a deal with another club (Barca) likely in place.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:50 pm
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Reina to Napoli on LOAN? I get the Rafa/Reina connection, but a loan deal? Peaches, Si, you're up.

    EDIT: I have backed off the ledge. Looks like Napoli is covering most if not all wages, and a deal with another club (Barca) likely in place.


    Yeah, I think this is a backdoor handshake with Rafa here. Napoli pay his wages plus the loan fee, then they ship him on to Barca when the time comes. Suits me.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:04 pm
  • Hopefully this will grease the wheels of incoming transfers. 100K a week just came off the books.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:04 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.


    Suarez would be worth the 55 million if he didn't come with the baggage that is with him. Rodgers is only looking at Suarez's talent and then saying he's worth that much. But you throw in the racism allegations, the diving reputation, the biting incident, and miscellaneous antics he causes, and I say you'd be lucky to get 40-45 million.

    Edit: Also, just passing this along but Real Madrid is rumored to value Suarez at £25 million.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:45 pm
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    peachesenregalia wrote:Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.


    Suarez would be worth the 55 million if he didn't come with the baggage that is with him. Rodgers is only looking at Suarez's talent and then saying he's worth that much. But you throw in the racism allegations, the diving reputation, the biting incident, and miscellaneous antics he causes, and I say you'd be lucky to get 40-45 million.

    Edit: Also, just passing this along but Real Madrid is rumored to value Suarez at £25 million.


    LOL, it doesn't matter what other teams value him at. That only matters if we WANT to sell him - which we do not. If another team wants him (and believe me - there are several that do) then they can pay the piper or piss off. We don't have to be 'lucky to get' anything. Liverpool hold all of the cards in this situation.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:58 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:LOL, it doesn't matter what other teams value him at. That only matters if we WANT to sell him - which we do not. If another team wants him (and believe me - there are several that do) then they can pay the piper or piss off. We don't have to be 'lucky to get' anything. Liverpool hold all of the cards in this situation.


    Clubs would be lying if they said that they don't want a player of his skills. But they'd also be lying if they say they'd be okay with paying 55 million for a guy with the rap sheet that Suarez has. It's pretty damn obvious that Liverpool is saying he's worth that to turn off potential buyers. But, the "lucky to get" remark I made, was meant only if Liverpool did sell him. Like I said, if he didn't come with the baggage, I wouldn't disagree with the 55 million price tag, but it's like buying a luxury car with a history of fender benders and performance problems, it'd be more trouble than he's worth.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:35 pm
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    peachesenregalia wrote:LOL, it doesn't matter what other teams value him at. That only matters if we WANT to sell him - which we do not. If another team wants him (and believe me - there are several that do) then they can pay the piper or piss off. We don't have to be 'lucky to get' anything. Liverpool hold all of the cards in this situation.


    Clubs would be lying if they said that they don't want a player of his skills. But they'd also be lying if they say they'd be okay with paying 55 million for a guy with the rap sheet that Suarez has. It's pretty damn obvious that Liverpool is saying he's worth that to turn off potential buyers. But, the "lucky to get" remark I made, was meant only if Liverpool did sell him. Like I said, if he didn't come with the baggage, I wouldn't disagree with the 55 million price tag, but it's like buying a luxury car with a history of fender benders and performance problems, it'd be more trouble than he's worth.


    He's worth 30 goals a season or more. No-one gives a shit about 'baggage' if you're getting that kind of production from a player.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:01 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
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    peachesenregalia wrote:LOL, it doesn't matter what other teams value him at. That only matters if we WANT to sell him - which we do not. If another team wants him (and believe me - there are several that do) then they can pay the piper or piss off. We don't have to be 'lucky to get' anything. Liverpool hold all of the cards in this situation.


    Clubs would be lying if they said that they don't want a player of his skills. But they'd also be lying if they say they'd be okay with paying 55 million for a guy with the rap sheet that Suarez has. It's pretty damn obvious that Liverpool is saying he's worth that to turn off potential buyers. But, the "lucky to get" remark I made, was meant only if Liverpool did sell him. Like I said, if he didn't come with the baggage, I wouldn't disagree with the 55 million price tag, but it's like buying a luxury car with a history of fender benders and performance problems, it'd be more trouble than he's worth.


    He's worth 30 goals a season or more. No-one gives a shit about 'baggage' if you're getting that kind of production from a player.


    It doesn't help if at any moment said player makes one dumbass decision and gets himself suspended for anywhere from a couple games to a extended period, especially if the suspension happens during a tough part of the schedule.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:47 pm
  • Fuck! Can we sign SOMEONE please? And no, Aly Cissohko (sp) doesn't blow my hair back. THought we wanted to bring in 20 goals still.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:49 pm
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Fuck! Can we sign SOMEONE please? And no, Aly Cissohko (sp) doesn't blow my hair back. THought we wanted to bring in 20 goals still.


    No need if we keep Suarez. Give it a minute. We need to sort the back 4 out now. Clearing Reina's wages off the books will open up some nice options for incoming transfers. If we unload Spearing, Coates, Assaidi and Downing, we'll see a few singings before the window shuts.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:08 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Fuck! Can we sign SOMEONE please? And no, Aly Cissohko (sp) doesn't blow my hair back. THought we wanted to bring in 20 goals still.


    No need if we keep Suarez. Give it a minute. We need to sort the back 4 out now. Clearing Reina's wages off the books will open up some nice options for incoming transfers. If we unload Spearing, Coates, Assaidi and Downing, we'll see a few singings before the window shuts.


    SPORTS EMOTIONS!!!! I just want to be linked to........anyone. Losing out on the brazilian winger hurts. I agree the defense is a top priority, but the French LB is like putting a band-aid on a broken leg.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:23 am
  • LOL

    Arsenal bid 40mil and one pound for Suarez. John Henry tweets 'What do you think they're smoking over at the Emirates?'

    Hahahaha! Typical incompetent Arsenal. Gotta be frustrating for you, Gate, no?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:32 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:LOL

    Arsenal bid 40mil and one pound for Suarez. John Henry tweets 'What do you think they're smoking over at the Emirates?'

    Hahahaha! Typical incompetent Arsenal. Gotta be frustrating for you, Gate, no?


    As you can imagine, that tweet has raised a good chuckle on Spurs forums this morning.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:41 am
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    peachesenregalia wrote:LOL

    Arsenal bid 40mil and one pound for Suarez. John Henry tweets 'What do you think they're smoking over at the Emirates?'

    Hahahaha! Typical incompetent Arsenal. Gotta be frustrating for you, Gate, no?


    As you can imagine, that tweet has raised a good chuckle on Spurs forums this morning.


    Happy to help :mrgreen:

    Liverpool need to keep Suarez, and it's looking more and more like they might. Meanwhile, United aren't looking great on their pre-season tour.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:56 am
  • I'm 100% ready and willing for a United 5th place finish. I don't think it's out of the question either.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:36 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:I'm 100% ready and willing for a United 5th place finish. I don't think it's out of the question either.


    It isn't. they're basically relying on RVP to win them a trophy again, and it won't happen. If they get Bale from you lot, then I'd say *maybe*, even possibly Fabregas, although i don't think he'd improve them all that much at this point. Moyes just doesn't strike me as a winning manager.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:29 am
  • Higuian off to Napoli for a box full of cash. I'd imagine Real will now turn to Suarez (and Bale). I've no issues with Suarez to Real for 45. Not Arsenal though (what a window for them so far. They are running the risk of desperation soon)

    Its interesting to follow the transfer rumours of United, Arsenal and Liverpool.

    ISWT.... Cissokho is a nice addition.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:33 am
  • If Real want him, I want a player plus cash. Or 50mil.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:14 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Higuian off to Napoli for a box full of cash. I'd imagine Real will now turn to Suarez (and Bale). I've no issues with Suarez to Real for 45. Not Arsenal though (what a window for them so far. They are running the risk of desperation soon)

    Its interesting to follow the transfer rumours of United, Arsenal and Liverpool.

    ISWT.... Cissokho is a nice addition.


    I think it's going to be one of those moves that doesn't get a lot of publicity, but will go a long way in terms of improving squad depth. Hopefully it brings Enrique to raise his game.

    Apparently we're in for Soldado too, I guess. If we manage that somehow with keeping our claws into Suarez, THAT would be a top 4 attack for sure. About the defense though.......
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:19 am
  • I think he might be looking to the youth as backup on the back 4, with the starters led by the central pairing of Agger and Toure, with Kelly in the mix also. Guys like Coady, Wisdom, Flanagan, to back up Johnson and Enrique.

    Remember, no European football means less need to rest players and less chance for injuries.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:59 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:If Real want him, I want a player plus cash. Or 50mil.


    What player? Higuian is gone. Who would leave there for Liverpool
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:00 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:If Real want him, I want a player plus cash. Or 50mil.


    What player? Higuian is gone. Who would leave there for Liverpool


    Hmmmm....fair point.

    I wouldn't want Higuain anyway.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:19 am
  • Alvaro Morata?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:29 am
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Alvaro Morata?


    Qui?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:50 am
  • Oh, you're saying as part of a player-plus-cash deal for Suarez? Yeah, fair enough.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:54 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Oh, you're saying as part of a player-plus-cash deal for Suarez? Yeah, fair enough.


    Yes sir. 40+ Million plus this guy would be alright with me
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:56 am
  • Won't need it though. Suarez is going nowhere.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:00 am
  • Im 99.9% sure of it, but about the one likely place he would go is RMFC. If they are going to bid they'll likely overpay, have UCL, and aren't in England.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:09 am
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Im 99.9% sure of it, but about the one likely place he would go is RMFC. If they are going to bid they'll likely overpay, have UCL, and aren't in England.


    Well, then Liverpool need to just sit back and be patient. 50mil is probably the least I would take for him in a cash-only deal.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:57 am
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    peachesenregalia wrote:Oh, you're saying as part of a player-plus-cash deal for Suarez? Yeah, fair enough.


    Yes sir. 40+ Million plus this guy would be alright with me


    I'd go Tello if we are looking for a swap. But only because of team needs.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:32 am
  • I think this whole idea of Suarez to Arsenal may actually come to fruition if Suarez indeed hands in a transfer request. However I still think him going to Madrid would be a better move.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:34 am
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    Hawkspur wrote:I'm 100% ready and willing for a United 5th place finish. I don't think it's out of the question either.


    It isn't. they're basically relying on RVP to win them a trophy again, and it won't happen. If they get Bale from you lot, then I'd say *maybe*, even possibly Fabregas, although i don't think he'd improve them all that much at this point. Moyes just doesn't strike me as a winning manager.


    Seems a bit premature to make such judgment call. It's too early to call a winner or even top 4.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:42 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:I think this whole idea of Suarez to Arsenal may actually come to fruition if Suarez indeed hands in a transfer request. However I still think him going to Madrid would be a better move.


    I doubt Liverpool would sell him in-country, transfer request or no. I think if he was going to hand in a transfer request to go to Arsenal, he'd have done it already. Now, if Madrid come knocking with a serious bid, then things might be different, but so far that hasn't happened
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:43 am
  • This Suarez saga is just getting more intriguing, isn't it? Now that Madrid has sold Higuain(for more than what everyone thinks he's worth) to Napoli, now they might turn their attention to Suarez or Bale, more likely it's Bale with the reports that came out in the last few days. Add to that now, according to BBC, Suarez wants to talk to Arsenal.

    I think we're all keeping a closer eye on this situation right now.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:45 am
  • Do you have a link for you 'Suarez wants to talk to Arsenal' thing? Because I'm not seeing it anywhere.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:48 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:I doubt Liverpool would sell him in-country, transfer request or no. I think if he was going to hand in a transfer request to go to Arsenal, he'd have done it already. Now, if Madrid come knocking with a serious bid, then things might be different, but so far that hasn't happened


    Two things about this. One, just because he hasn't handed in a transfer request yet, doesn't mean he's not gonna do it. Two, all I've heard about Madrid is how either they're gonna A) Only offer up to 30 million for him, or B) Offer cash plus a player(and that's been Higuain in the reports I've seen). I think Madrid is more interested in Bale, and they'll only go after Suarez if they give up on Bale.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:52 am
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    peachesenregalia wrote:Do you have a link for you 'Suarez wants to talk to Arsenal' thing? Because I'm not seeing it anywhere.


    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/359986506980540417


    Can't see where this would be coming from, the Player doesn't get to decide the move. He has no buy-out clause and is under contract for three years. Transfer request or no, Liverpool hold all the cards.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:00 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Do you have a link for you 'Suarez wants to talk to Arsenal' thing? Because I'm not seeing it anywhere.


    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/359986506980540417


    Can't see where this would be coming from, the Player doesn't get to decide the move. He has no buy-out clause and is under contract for three years. Transfer request or no, Liverpool hold all the cards.


    Though most clubs would rather sell a player than have him stay there and be a nuisance in the locker room. Liverpool do hold the leverage, but leverage doesn't help much if the player is bent on leaving.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:18 pm
  • So...Should Villa have sold Benteke then? Should United have sold Rooney when he handed in a transfer request a few years ago? Plenty of players hand in transfer requests and go on to have productive seasons after not being granted a transfer. We'll be just fine. Looks like Arsenal are failing at the transfer window.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:21 pm
  • Suarez the player said no such thing. That was a tweet from a journo. No offense but this Suarez thing isn't intriguing at all. Its really the opposite. Entertaining to watch Gunner fans drool over speculative twitter nonsense and photos of Suarez playing FIFA by himself while three others play together. Or Liverpool fans moaning he didn't celebrate an injury time own goal in a friendly.

    Its nonsense. Simple math. If he goes its too Real. Arsenal fans need to be concerned they are wasting yet another summer
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:23 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:So...Should Villa have sold Benteke then? Should United have sold Rooney when he handed in a transfer request a few years ago? Plenty of players hand in transfer requests and go on to have productive seasons after not being granted a transfer. We'll be just fine. Looks like Arsenal are failing at the transfer window.


    Don't bother peaches..... Kids all think this is FIFA 13 and not the business side of professional sports

    By the way Liverpool is now apparently considering action against Arsenal for tapping up
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:24 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Suarez the player said no such thing. That was a tweet from a journo. No offense but this Suarez thing isn't intriguing at all. Its really the opposite. Entertaining to watch Gunner fans drool over speculative twitter nonsense and photos of Suarez playing FIFA by himself while three others play together. Or Liverpool fans moaning he didn't celebrate an injury time own goal in a friendly.

    Its nonsense. Simple math. If he goes its too Real. Arsenal fans need to be concerned they are wasting yet another summer


    Yeah, pretty much this. that tweet seemed like balls right off the bat, no credible sports news sources were reporting it. Also, players NEVER meet with teams to discuss a move before the teams have worked it out first. Rubbish.

    But yeah, gate, Arsenal look to have squandered another summer window here.
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