2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk

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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:19 pm
  • In out of nowhere, stupid and "WTF?!" news: Bookies have stopped taking bets on Luis Suarez leaving Liverpool for Arsenal.

    No really, and apparently Arsenal are 2nd favorites at 11/4 right behind Madrid. When did we start being linked with Hanibal Lector? When will the left field links for Arsenal stop? Next thing you know we'll be linked with signing Ronaldo and Messi the way these papers are linking us with practically everyone you can think of.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:47 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:In out of nowhere, stupid and "WTF?!" news: Bookies have stopped taking bets on Luis Suarez leaving Liverpool for Arsenal.

    No really, and apparently Arsenal are 2nd favorites at 11/4 right behind Madrid. When did we start being linked with Hanibal Lector? When will the left field links for Arsenal stop? Next thing you know we'll be linked with signing Ronaldo and Messi the way these papers are linking us with practically everyone you can think of.


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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:28 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:In out of nowhere, stupid and "WTF?!" news: Bookies have stopped taking bets on Luis Suarez leaving Liverpool for Arsenal.

    No really, and apparently Arsenal are 2nd favorites at 11/4 right behind Madrid. When did we start being linked with Hanibal Lector? When will the left field links for Arsenal stop? Next thing you know we'll be linked with signing Ronaldo and Messi the way these papers are linking us with practically everyone you can think of.


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    It's too stupid to sell papers.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:43 pm
  • The cynic in me believes that the bookies have slashed the odds and publicized the fact that they have done so in order to stimulate activity, ie get people to give them their money.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:49 am
  • Gate, you clicked on and reposted the link.. that's selling papers in the digital age. Nothing is too outlandish or so unreal that they won't put it out there to get people to click on the link (adding hits which sells add space) simple marketing

    Very happy to see JJS go. I just never cared for him as a CM at Liverpool he surely deserved a chance with a premier team but his attitude and inability to take his chances cost him at Anfield.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:12 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Gate, you clicked on and reposted the link.. that's selling papers in the digital age. Nothing is too outlandish or so unreal that they won't put it out there to get people to click on the link (adding hits which sells add space) simple marketing

    Very happy to see JJS go. I just never cared for him as a CM at Liverpool he surely deserved a chance with a premier team but his attitude and inability to take his chances cost him at Anfield.


    I like a player with a little bit of fire in his belly, but it wasn't enough. Shelvey just wasn't good enough though...He had the worst conversion rate in the premiership of all players that had actually scored, I believe it was 13%
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:27 am
  • Moyes confirms Rooney staying put.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:10 pm
  • Nothing official till the ink is dry but Liverpool look to be losing out on Mkhitaryan to Dortmund. Can't really fault him for it either, they have UCL football and we don't.

    Onward and upward. First team priorities Are CDM, CB, and overall goal scoring talent.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:24 pm
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Nothing official till the ink is dry but Liverpool look to be losing out on Mkhitaryan to Dortmund. Can't really fault him for it either, they have UCL football and we don't.

    Onward and upward. First team priorities Are CDM, CB, and overall goal scoring talent.

    Not too upset if we lose out on mkh. Looks the part but feel like other options are available (Ericksen for example) if we don't go CAM we can leave Coutinho there, use Suso and Allen and go for a winger (Lamela)

    CB and CDM we do have Skrtel and Leiva. I would prefer bringing in another CB and off loading Coates Waynama would be a great addition to help Leiva as well

    There's this Messi kid in Spain who seems a good fit with BRs style maybe him as well?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:12 pm
  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:Moyes confirms Rooney staying put.


    Shall we run down the list of Moyes' lists of departure claims:

    Moyes in 2004: "Rooney is not for sale"
    Rooney joins Man U

    Moyes in 2009: "Lescott is not for sale"
    Lescott joins Man City

    Moyes in 2011: "Arteta is not for sale"
    Arteta joins Arsenal

    Moyes in 2013: "Rooney is not for sale"


    Probably shouldn't be saying this is over just because Moyes says it is.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:33 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    CALIHAWK1 wrote:Moyes confirms Rooney staying put.


    Shall we run down the list of Moyes' lists of departure claims:

    Moyes in 2004: "Rooney is not for sale"
    Rooney joins Man U

    Moyes in 2009: "Lescott is not for sale"
    Lescott joins Man City

    Moyes in 2011: "Arteta is not for sale"
    Arteta joins Arsenal

    Moyes in 2013: "Rooney is not for sale"


    Probably shouldn't be saying this is over just because Moyes says it is.


    The main reason that I doubt that he'll move is not due to Moyes willingness to move him, it's more down to the fact that he earns about £10 mil per year and that not many teams could afford to pay him. Of those, not many need him.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:41 pm
  • I'm starting to fear that this Suarez-Arsenal thing is gonna cost us Higuain.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:58 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:I'm starting to fear that this Suarez-Arsenal thing is gonna cost us Higuain.


    If we were to sell Suarez to Arsenal, we would become Arsenal. Not going to happen.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:22 am
  • Looks like Palace are going to sign Jose Campaña, Spain U20 captain.

    No nothing about him but from what I've read he sounds a decent player.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:30 am
  • Blueboy wrote:Looks like Palace are going to sign Jose Campaña, Spain U20 captain.

    No nothing about him but from what I've read he sounds a decent player.


    What do you figure your clubs chances are of avoiding the drop? Punchers chance?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:04 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:I'm starting to fear that this Suarez-Arsenal thing is gonna cost us Higuain.


    What. About is that Arsenal is offering to a player they can't get so they can turn to their fans and say "we tried to spend"
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:44 pm
  • I'm not getting my hopes up that Arsenal will get Suarez, I'm not saying it's impossible, I just can't see it happening. Higuain is more likely, though it almost seems like Madrid is trying to squeeze every penny they can out of Arsenal in the deal.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:27 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:I'm not getting my hopes up that Arsenal will get Suarez, I'm not saying it's impossible, I just can't see it happening. Higuain is more likely, though it almost seems like Madrid is trying to squeeze every penny they can out of Arsenal in the deal.


    Yeah, how dare they try to get the most money in return for their player! Don't they know this is ARSENAL they're dealing with?!?!
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:40 am
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:
    Blueboy wrote:Looks like Palace are going to sign Jose Campaña, Spain U20 captain.

    No nothing about him but from what I've read he sounds a decent player.


    What do you figure your clubs chances are of avoiding the drop? Punchers chance?


    I don't think they have much of a chance, in my opinion they need a real good centre back and another top striker.

    I would take our fate being in our hands on the final day of the season, if we can manage that then I think they'd of done well.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:37 am
  • 10 million plus Mata for rooney? United are stupid to turn that down. I hope Moyes continues to make stupid decisions like this during his tenure.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:37 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:10 million plus Mata for rooney? United are stupid to turn that down. I hope Moyes continues to make stupid decisions like this during his tenure.


    Surely that can't be true. van Persie is the obvious first choice striker; I would have thought that Mata would slide straight in as the first choice midfielder.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:54 am
  • I highly doubt that's what Chelsea has offered. I'm ready for united to sell Rooney once and for all.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:55 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:10 million plus Mata for rooney? United are stupid to turn that down. I hope Moyes continues to make stupid decisions like this during his tenure.


    Surely that can't be true. van Persie is the obvious first choice striker; I would have thought that Mata would slide straight in as the first choice midfielder.


    multiple sources are reporting that that was the offer on the table. Mata is better than any midfielder currently on United's squad. hell, even 10 mil for rooney is half-decent business at this point. Moyes is a berk for not taking that.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:55 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Hawkspur wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:10 million plus Mata for rooney? United are stupid to turn that down. I hope Moyes continues to make stupid decisions like this during his tenure.


    Surely that can't be true. van Persie is the obvious first choice striker; I would have thought that Mata would slide straight in as the first choice midfielder.


    multiple sources are reporting that that was the offer on the table. Mata is better than any midfielder currently on United's squad. hell, even 10 mil for rooney is half-decent business at this point. Moyes is a berk for not taking that.


    Here's hoping. A United period of decline would be great. Jumping the gun a bit, granted, but one can still dream.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:56 pm
  • And what are Chelsea thinking, by the way?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:57 pm
  • So, fellow soccer fans, while this isn't transfer news, what's your take on Sepp Blatter, quite possibly the most corrupt and out-of-touch-with-reality person involved in sports anywhere in the world, stating that he now wants to move the '22 World Cup to Winter because he finally realizes it's too hot to play in Qatar in June & July?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:42 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:So, fellow soccer fans, while this isn't transfer news, what's your take on Sepp Blatter, quite possibly the most corrupt and out-of-touch-with-reality person involved in sports anywhere in the world, stating that he now wants to move the '22 World Cup to Winter because he finally realizes it's too hot to play in Qatar in June & July?


    Firstly, it's impossible to disagree with your assessment of Blatter. The man is a joke, albeit not a very funny one. I'm guessing that this will not go down well with the domestic leagues and, I'd imagine, could even lead to at least one league somewhere refusing to release its players.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:36 pm
  • Can't have it in Winter. End of. completely ruins almost every domestic league in the world. What happened to the giant floating mechanical cloud idea?
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:35 am
  • Sepp Blatter is an idiot but things will not improve much once he leaves office and Michel Platini takes over.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:23 am
  • Man, I really hope United finally sell Rooney. I am tired of his complaints and egoistic behavior. NOBODY is bigger than the club and if somehow United can get Luiz or Mata in the deal that would be great.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:44 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:Man, I really hope United finally sell Rooney. I am tired of his complaints and egoistic behavior. NOBODY is bigger than the club and if somehow United can get Luiz or Mata in the deal that would be great.


    Well, according to just about everyone except the two clubs now, Mata or Luiz plus cash is what was offered. REALLY dumb if United turned that down. Moyes seems determined to prove a point that he won't be pushed around by his players or something. Not a good start to his tenure.

    Talk is that united are lining up a big bid for Bale. I reckon Real will just out-bid them.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:12 am
  • SeatownJay wrote:So, fellow soccer fans, while this isn't transfer news, what's your take on Sepp Blatter, quite possibly the most corrupt and out-of-touch-with-reality person involved in sports anywhere in the world, stating that he now wants to move the '22 World Cup to Winter because he finally realizes it's too hot to play in Qatar in June & July?


    It all comes down to money, that's all Blatter cares about. Qatar didn't deserve it in the first place, they bought the bid essentially, the only good thing about their bid was the stadiums, but everything else was shitty as hell.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:23 am
  • How many of you guys have seen this



    I liked this story a lot, it shows the passion of some fans that don't get to see their favorite teams up close that often, or at all for that matter.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:24 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    SeatownJay wrote:So, fellow soccer fans, while this isn't transfer news, what's your take on Sepp Blatter, quite possibly the most corrupt and out-of-touch-with-reality person involved in sports anywhere in the world, stating that he now wants to move the '22 World Cup to Winter because he finally realizes it's too hot to play in Qatar in June & July?


    It all comes down to money, that's all Blatter cares about. Qatar didn't deserve it in the first place, they bought the bid essentially, the only good thing about their bid was the stadiums, but everything else was shitty as hell.


    Aside from the surface on the sun temperatures I think that a world cup in Qatar is just a bad idea on all fronts. I could see it potentially going worse than Brazil is supposedly going to.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:39 am
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:
    SeatownJay wrote:So, fellow soccer fans, while this isn't transfer news, what's your take on Sepp Blatter, quite possibly the most corrupt and out-of-touch-with-reality person involved in sports anywhere in the world, stating that he now wants to move the '22 World Cup to Winter because he finally realizes it's too hot to play in Qatar in June & July?


    It all comes down to money, that's all Blatter cares about. Qatar didn't deserve it in the first place, they bought the bid essentially, the only good thing about their bid was the stadiums, but everything else was shitty as hell.


    Aside from the surface on the sun temperatures I think that a world cup in Qatar is just a bad idea on all fronts. I could see it potentially going worse than Brazil is supposedly going to.


    From what I heard, of the 5 nations that were up for the 2022 vote, Qatar had the worst review of their bid.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:59 am
  • Man, I really hope United finally sell Rooney. I am tired of his complaints and egoistic behavior. NOBODY is bigger than the club and if somehow United can get Luiz or Mata in the deal that would be great.



    I agree, if that was an actual offer United should've taken it but I doubt that either Luiz or Mata were offered. At this point, I simply want United to sell him if Rooney continues to make comments like "Angry and Confused." With that money they can bring in a new striker but most importantly a midfielder or two.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:08 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    MANUNITED23 wrote:Man, I really hope United finally sell Rooney. I am tired of his complaints and egoistic behavior. NOBODY is bigger than the club and if somehow United can get Luiz or Mata in the deal that would be great.


    Well, according to just about everyone except the two clubs now, Mata or Luiz plus cash is what was offered. REALLY dumb if United turned that down. Moyes seems determined to prove a point that he won't be pushed around by his players or something. Not a good start to his tenure.

    Talk is that united are lining up a big bid for Bale. I reckon Real will just out-bid them.


    I can't see Spurs selling in-country, if indeed they do sell. Madrid, Barcelona, PSG or Monaco would be the most likely next club. I'd have to imagine that it'll be a much larger fee than £60m if he is sold, too. Bale is essentially the face of the league over here this season and I'm sure that he is worth quite a bit to Spurs in terms of merchandise, expanding the fanbase and getting games on TV.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:17 pm
  • yeah, I agree Hawkspur, just repeating what I'd read. I can't see Liverpool selling Suarez in-country either. Rodgers has said he won't let him go this summer, but we'll see.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:23 pm
  • Just to put this in everyone's mind. Nobody really saw Arsenal selling Judas Van Persie in country last year.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:34 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:Just to put this in everyone's mind. Nobody really saw Arsenal selling Judas Van Persie in country last year.


    LOL. You still blame the players.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:08 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:Just to put this in everyone's mind. Nobody really saw Arsenal selling Judas Van Persie in country last year.


    LOL. You still blame the players.


    Where did I say that? All I said was that people assumed he would leave the country.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:50 am
  • When you referred to him as "Judas Van Persie". Come on Gate

    Anyways its a valid point Torres went to Chelsea, RvP to United. The difference here is Suarez entire basis for leaving was to escape persecution from the British media (and I type that with sarcasm as he is paid nearly 120K a week for godssake oh and bites people)

    Suarez is now peddling the CL angle because interest cooled. My thought is 60 mill in country (which Arsenal won't pay.... to be clear they won't offer the 40 they say they have permission to release for him either they are just playing their supporters).

    45-50 out of country is fine
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:10 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:When you referred to him as "Judas Van Persie". Come on Gate

    Anyways its a valid point Torres went to Chelsea, RvP to United. The difference here is Suarez entire basis for leaving was to escape persecution from the British media (and I type that with sarcasm as he is paid nearly 120K a week for godssake oh and bites people)

    Suarez is now peddling the CL angle because interest cooled. My thought is 60 mill in country (which Arsenal won't pay.... to be clear they won't offer the 40 they say they have permission to release for him either they are just playing their supporters).

    45-50 out of country is fine


    Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:59 am
  • Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.


    It doesn't seem like anyone is willing to pay that much for him. I think Real Madrid should get him.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:05 am
  • MANUNITED23 wrote:
    Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.


    It doesn't seem like anyone is willing to pay that much for him. I think Real Madrid should get him.


    This is where Liverpool are in the position of power though. He's got 3 years remaining on his contract and no buyout clause. They can sit back and wait for the right bid to come in.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:03 am
  • Absolutely and I would wait for the right offer as well. They are in a good position.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:31 pm
  • Reina to Napoli on LOAN? I get the Rafa/Reina connection, but a loan deal? Peaches, Si, you're up.

    EDIT: I have backed off the ledge. Looks like Napoli is covering most if not all wages, and a deal with another club (Barca) likely in place.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:50 pm
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:Reina to Napoli on LOAN? I get the Rafa/Reina connection, but a loan deal? Peaches, Si, you're up.

    EDIT: I have backed off the ledge. Looks like Napoli is covering most if not all wages, and a deal with another club (Barca) likely in place.


    Yeah, I think this is a backdoor handshake with Rafa here. Napoli pay his wages plus the loan fee, then they ship him on to Barca when the time comes. Suits me.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:04 pm
  • Hopefully this will grease the wheels of incoming transfers. 100K a week just came off the books.
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Re: 2013 Summer Soccer Transfer Talk
Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:04 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Rodgers has intimated that he wants Cavani money for Suarez, which was 55 mil. Sounds about right to me.


    Suarez would be worth the 55 million if he didn't come with the baggage that is with him. Rodgers is only looking at Suarez's talent and then saying he's worth that much. But you throw in the racism allegations, the diving reputation, the biting incident, and miscellaneous antics he causes, and I say you'd be lucky to get 40-45 million.

    Edit: Also, just passing this along but Real Madrid is rumored to value Suarez at £25 million.
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