Let's Talk Mariners

Discuss any and all sports-related topics. From the College Sports to Baseball and everything in between. RATING: PG-13
Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:35 am
  • The Ms obviously are not a very good team. The White Sox are just worse than they are; a decent team like the NYY exposes them. My fear is that I don't see the Ms getting better in the future (3-5 years) after looking at the Seahawks and how they draft and contrasting that the Ms I have reached some conclusions.

    The Seahawks draft high upside players. Players that for whatever reason are athletes but didn't show it in combine tests or try outs. A bad year, injury, out of position etc.

    The Ms try as much as possible to go for the safe bet. Low risk, good character bit most of the time have a low upside. Pretty much what you see is what you get.

    They seem to do better when they sign free agents that have a good track record but a bad year or two. That is pretty much the only position players doing anything on the team today.

    It seems to me that the Ms are betting a whole lot on the Farm system developing position players for the team and it has just not happened. Doing the same thing over and over when it is not working is foolish.

    I would take a hard look at the scouting and coaching in the minor league system. If they really want to use a farm team centric approach they need to find out why the farm system is failing and fix it
    User avatar
    Happypuppy
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1911
    Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:40 pm


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:03 pm
  • Sounds like RW is throwing out the first pitch tonight, with our pitching it may be the best we see tonight ! :D
    User avatar
    m0ng0
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2783
    Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:55 pm
    Location: Battle Ground, Wa


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:55 pm
  • m0ng0 wrote:Sounds like RW is throwing out the first pitch tonight, with our pitching it may be the best we see tonight ! :D



    Go to the vine video site Kam Chancellor has a video of RW throwing the "first pitch" in the the Hawks locker room. He is user bambamkam
    User avatar
    Happypuppy
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1911
    Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:40 pm


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:56 pm
  • I'd request that he pitch the rest of the game if it weren't for the possibility of him getting hurt.
    User avatar
    The Outfield
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2256
    Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:11 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:15 pm
  • Two batters in and Bonderman looks like Bonderman. Time for Wilson!
    _________________
    "I can deal with Kap looking/acting like a douchebag so long as he wins. You can't be a douche AND a loser, Kap. Get your ---- together, a-hole."

    .....................................................................................-Webzone Niner fan GhostOfJimmyDean
    User avatar
    Trenchbroom
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 1926
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:47 am
    Location: Spokangeles


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:20 pm
  • Trenchbroom wrote:Two batters in and Bonderman looks like Bonderman. Time for Wilson!


    6 Innings 3 hits, one run (earned) not bad. Bartender closed the deal.
    User avatar
    400WattHPSHawk
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 1815
    Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:09 pm
    Location: Central Washington


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:44 am
  • Really good to see Bonderman have a decent outing. Dude's a Washington native (Pasco) and I always root for homegrowns.
    From the white sands
    To the canyon lands
    To the redwood stands
    To the barren lands

    ImageImage

    Proud member of the 38 club
    User avatar
    hawksfansinceday1
    NET Pro Bowler
     
    Posts: 12656
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:38 am
    Location: Vancouver, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:31 pm
  • Zunino was called up and is being flown in from Vegas as we speak
    User avatar
    The Outfield
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2256
    Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:11 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:54 pm

Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:24 pm
  • Lords of Scythia wrote:WHen's his first game? :) I hope they're not rushing the kid.


    Dont worry they are
    User avatar
    Lithium
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1920
    Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:01 pm


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:27 pm
  • He's hitting like .240 in the PCL. Yeah, he's being rushed. Watch the Ms ruin another prospect.

    Edited to note that his line is .238/.303/.503. In AAA. Yep.
    "If given the opportunity without fear of incarceration, I would honestly beat the living **** out of Jerry Rice."

    --Internet tough guy HawkWow being a MAN on the internet
    User avatar
    Smelly McUgly
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3754
    Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:30 pm
    Location: God's Country AKA Cascadia AKA The Pacific Northwest


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:34 pm
  • Well, they do need a catcher as Kelly isn't an everyday catcher anymore and Sucre is hurt and probably headed to the DL. The Banks kid they just called up was barely hitting .200 in AA and Montero is hurt for 6-8 weeks and probably suspended for 50 games once the MLB drops the hammer on him and the others on the PED list. They are calling him up because they are out of options at C.
    Image
    User avatar
    Blitzer88
    * NET Eeyore *
     
    Posts: 11249
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:47 am
    Location: Pasco, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:23 pm
  • I'd rather keep Bantz until either Jesus is ready to come back than rush Zunino to the majors. Awful move that could seriously hurt his development. He's not ready.
    Vpk0718
    NET Starter
     
    Posts: 308
    Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:42 pm


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:26 pm
  • Yeah, I've got a lot of faith and hope invested in Zunino, but I think it's too early.
    User avatar
    pinksheets
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2836
    Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
    Location: Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:25 pm
  • So, Aaron Harang just threw a two-hit shutout.

    In other news, the Astros are truly abysmal.
    "If given the opportunity without fear of incarceration, I would honestly beat the living **** out of Jerry Rice."

    --Internet tough guy HawkWow being a MAN on the internet
    User avatar
    Smelly McUgly
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3754
    Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:30 pm
    Location: God's Country AKA Cascadia AKA The Pacific Northwest


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:36 pm
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:So, Aaron Harang just threw a two-hit shutout.

    In other news, the Astros are truly abysmal.


    Marlins are worse than the Astros right now.
    Image
    User avatar
    Blitzer88
    * NET Eeyore *
     
    Posts: 11249
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:47 am
    Location: Pasco, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:18 pm
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:So, Aaron Harang just threw a two-hit shutout.

    In other news, the Astros are truly abysmal.



    True but Harrang is like that. He will get shelled one night and throw a cgso. Even against decent competition.
    User avatar
    CALIHAWK1
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 9342
    Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:00 pm
    Location: Is Everything


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:10 pm
  • Blitzer88 wrote:Well, they do need a catcher as Kelly isn't an everyday catcher anymore and Sucre is hurt and probably headed to the DL. The Banks kid they just called up was barely hitting .200 in AA and Montero is hurt for 6-8 weeks and probably suspended for 50 games once the MLB drops the hammer on him and the others on the PED list. They are calling him up because they are out of options at C.

    What's Montero got to do with the catcher position?
    SEAHAWKS HEADED FOR BLOODBATH
    http://cover32.com/seahawks/2014/11/19/ ... bloodbath/
    Follow me on Twitter:
    @George_OGorman
    User avatar
    Lords of Scythia
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1411
    Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:32 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:56 pm
  • Lords of Scythia wrote:
    Blitzer88 wrote:Well, they do need a catcher as Kelly isn't an everyday catcher anymore and Sucre is hurt and probably headed to the DL. The Banks kid they just called up was barely hitting .200 in AA and Montero is hurt for 6-8 weeks and probably suspended for 50 games once the MLB drops the hammer on him and the others on the PED list. They are calling him up because they are out of options at C.

    What's Montero got to do with the catcher position?


    Not much......... :th2thumbs:
    Image
    User avatar
    Blitzer88
    * NET Eeyore *
     
    Posts: 11249
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:47 am
    Location: Pasco, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:57 pm
  • And of course Tom craps the bed and costs the M's their first sweep of the season. Still only team to not have swept a series yet in the majors.......pathetic.
    Image
    User avatar
    Blitzer88
    * NET Eeyore *
     
    Posts: 11249
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:47 am
    Location: Pasco, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:59 pm
  • Hilarious!! Only because we suck sooooo baaaaaad.
    Image
    User avatar
    DHawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1677
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:50 pm
    Location: Phoenix, AZ


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:26 pm
  • FUUUUUUUUU- :enraged: :cussing:
    Image
    User avatar
    KitsapHawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 857
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:04 pm
    Location: Behind you


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:33 pm
  • Gotta stick with Wilhelmsen, he's your closer.

    What if we made him...not our closer?

    Gotta stick with him, he's your closer.

    Yeah but what if he wasn't.

    But he is.

    But we can replace him.

    But you gotta stick with him, he's your closer.
    User avatar
    pinksheets
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2836
    Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
    Location: Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:45 pm
  • pinksheets wrote:Gotta stick with Wilhelmsen, he's your closer.

    What if we made him...not our closer?

    Gotta stick with him, he's your closer.

    Yeah but what if he wasn't.

    But he is.

    But we can replace him.

    But you gotta stick with him, he's your closer.


    But what if we found someone better?
    ----------------------------
    "Plus I hate the seattle stadium the **** place is too loud, gave me a headache watchin the game." ~ Some 9er fan
    User avatar
    JOz56
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 748
    Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 11:52 am
    Location: Spokane WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:49 pm
  • JOz56 wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Gotta stick with Wilhelmsen, he's your closer.

    What if we made him...not our closer?

    Gotta stick with him, he's your closer.

    Yeah but what if he wasn't.

    But he is.

    But we can replace him.

    But you gotta stick with him, he's your closer.


    But what if we found someone better?


    But that guy's not your closer.

    Tom Wilhelmsen is, you gotta stick with him.
    User avatar
    pinksheets
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2836
    Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
    Location: Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:51 pm
  • pinksheets wrote:Gotta stick with Wilhelmsen, he's your closer.

    What if we made him...not our closer?

    Gotta stick with him, he's your closer.

    Yeah but what if he wasn't.

    But he is.

    But we can replace him.

    But you gotta stick with him, he's your closer.


    He was so good to start the year........what happened to him? Oh wait......he plays for the M's, that answers it.
    Image
    User avatar
    Blitzer88
    * NET Eeyore *
     
    Posts: 11249
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:47 am
    Location: Pasco, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:04 pm
  • My honest opinion is that with a team this bad, with a season all but lost, who gives a flying fffffffccckkkk(no u makes it ok, right?) about a closer? It's not a big deal. We can pitch whatever relievers we want to see some time. If Wilhelmsen isn't closing anything, just play guys you want to see in the big leagues. He can't control his pitches at all lately, move on, pitch Furbush for ffffffccckkkk's sake. Who cares? Get younger guys some experience and build a sample size you're happy with to make decisions on them. Let Wilhelmsen work out his problems in a non-game situation. He's young enough that he might be an asset worth holding onto if we can put something together with our prospects in a couple of years, but he's not so young that you need to force it.
    User avatar
    pinksheets
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2836
    Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
    Location: Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:09 pm
  • pinksheets wrote:
    JOz56 wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Gotta stick with Wilhelmsen, he's your closer.

    What if we made him...not our closer?

    Gotta stick with him, he's your closer.

    Yeah but what if he wasn't.

    But he is.

    But we can replace him.

    But you gotta stick with him, he's your closer.


    But what if we found someone better?


    But that guy's not your closer.

    Tom Wilhelmsen is, you gotta stick with him.


    What if we get another closer who is better, and have him change his name to Tom WIlhelmsen? Can we rebuild him? Do we have the money to do so?
    ----------------------------
    "Plus I hate the seattle stadium the **** place is too loud, gave me a headache watchin the game." ~ Some 9er fan
    User avatar
    JOz56
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 748
    Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 11:52 am
    Location: Spokane WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:18 pm
  • JOz56 wrote:What if we get another closer who is better, and have him change his name to Tom WIlhelmsen? Can we rebuild him? Do we have the money to do so?

    No, we only have the money to acquire television stations, not good baseball players.
    User avatar
    pinksheets
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2836
    Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
    Location: Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:27 pm
  • pinksheets wrote:
    JOz56 wrote:What if we get another closer who is better, and have him change his name to Tom WIlhelmsen? Can we rebuild him? Do we have the money to do so?

    No, we only have the money to acquire television stations, not good baseball players.


    Well, damn...
    ----------------------------
    "Plus I hate the seattle stadium the **** place is too loud, gave me a headache watchin the game." ~ Some 9er fan
    User avatar
    JOz56
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 748
    Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 11:52 am
    Location: Spokane WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:54 pm
  • The Seahawks should just go over to the Mariners' locker room and start bitch slappin' some bitches.
    User avatar
    400WattHPSHawk
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 1815
    Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:09 pm
    Location: Central Washington


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:08 am
  • yep I think the bartender needs to get 86'd. Just odd to see his control go to crap like that, I see a trip to the DL coming for him, something aint right with him.

    Bonderman pitched a gem, Franklin is hitting and even Zunino got a hit its not all bad :D
    User avatar
    m0ng0
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2783
    Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:55 pm
    Location: Battle Ground, Wa


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:39 am
  • Blitzer88 wrote:He was so good to start the year........what happened to him? Oh wait......he plays for the M's, that answers it.

    :th2thumbs:




    :thirishdrinkers:
    From the white sands
    To the canyon lands
    To the redwood stands
    To the barren lands

    ImageImage

    Proud member of the 38 club
    User avatar
    hawksfansinceday1
    NET Pro Bowler
     
    Posts: 12656
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:38 am
    Location: Vancouver, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:54 am
  • I think he needs to be removed from the role temporarily, not forever but tell him he's out for 2 weeks or a month or something and let him have some mop up time to work on his problems. I'm sure he can get his control back. I feel bad for the guy, in the interview after the game he just looked like he was in a daze and was devastated.

    I also think the CDC needs to come to Seattle and check out the clubhouse in Safeco field because it looks like we have a new disease called suckusballitus that seems to be spreading and they need to contain it ASAP.
    The LOLs of the many outweigh the shame of the few
    User avatar
    Msfann
    *BRONZE SUPPORTER*
    *BRONZE SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 1446
    Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:37 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:04 am
  • Only 9 games back in the Wild Card!!!!

    Sigh
    "The problem with the internet is, that one can never trust the authenticity of a source." - Abraham Lincoln
    User avatar
    Hawker
    NET Rookie
     
    Posts: 288
    Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:59 pm
    Location: Pewyallup


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:20 am
  • Msfann wrote:I think he needs to be removed from the role temporarily, not forever but tell him he's out for 2 weeks or a month or something and let him have some mop up time to work on his problems. I'm sure he can get his control back. I feel bad for the guy, in the interview after the game he just looked like he was in a daze and was devastated.


    I agree. Put Capps or Furbush in as closer, put the Bartender in relief. Cannot be worse.
    _________________
    "I can deal with Kap looking/acting like a douchebag so long as he wins. You can't be a douche AND a loser, Kap. Get your ---- together, a-hole."

    .....................................................................................-Webzone Niner fan GhostOfJimmyDean
    User avatar
    Trenchbroom
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 1926
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:47 am
    Location: Spokangeles


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:16 pm
  • pinksheets wrote:
    JOz56 wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Gotta stick with Wilhelmsen, he's your closer.

    What if we made him...not our closer?

    Gotta stick with him, he's your closer.

    Yeah but what if he wasn't.

    But he is.

    But we can replace him.

    But you gotta stick with him, he's your closer.


    But what if we found someone better?


    But that guy's not your closer.

    Tom Wilhelmsen is, you gotta stick with him.

    Ha ha. I can hear Wedgie's voice. But do you got to stick with your majority owner/team pres/team exec/manager/coach?
    SEAHAWKS HEADED FOR BLOODBATH
    http://cover32.com/seahawks/2014/11/19/ ... bloodbath/
    Follow me on Twitter:
    @George_OGorman
    User avatar
    Lords of Scythia
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1411
    Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:32 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:46 am
  • And yet another beat down last night 9-2 or somethig like that.. wooohooo go Mariners.
    World Champs - Sounds good don't it
    User avatar
    hawker84
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 4058
    Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:22 pm
    Location: Tri Cities, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:46 am
  • hawker84 wrote:And yet another beat down last night 9-2 or somethig like that.. wooohooo go Mariners.


    You're only seeing what you want to see. Mariners took 2 of 3 from one of the better teams in baseball.
    InSuarezWeTrust
    NET Starter
     
    Posts: 434
    Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:34 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:32 am
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:
    hawker84 wrote:And yet another beat down last night 9-2 or somethig like that.. wooohooo go Mariners.


    You're only seeing what you want to see. Mariners took 2 of 3 from one of the better teams in baseball.

    True and I like it. Still, would've been nice to get their first series sweep of the year.

    What I'm afraid of is that they'll climb tantalizingly close to .500 again and then go on another 7-8 game losing streak. In other words, like they almost always do, give us hope and then pull the rug out from under our feet. I sincerely hope not.
    From the white sands
    To the canyon lands
    To the redwood stands
    To the barren lands

    ImageImage

    Proud member of the 38 club
    User avatar
    hawksfansinceday1
    NET Pro Bowler
     
    Posts: 12656
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:38 am
    Location: Vancouver, WA


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:40 am
  • I hate being right about Tom Wilhemsen, but damned if I didn't see us losing lots of games with him as the closer. Makes Brandon League look like Mariano Rivera.

    I find myself wondering something.. Why the hell is Carter Capps not the closer? Now that kid has an arm on him.
    Feel free to contact me if you need legal assistance. I have a great lawyer that helped me with an ex who violated my privacy and kept harassing me on MySpace and Facebook. He's very good. And there is legal precedent. - linuxpro

    He is hold back the legion of boom - skater18000
    User avatar
    SmokinHawk
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 5733
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:29 am
    Location: Back in Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:57 am
  • Wilhelmsen is nothing like League. Wilhelmsen has (had?) an ace-curveball. League just threw really hard.
    "If given the opportunity without fear of incarceration, I would honestly beat the living **** out of Jerry Rice."

    --Internet tough guy HawkWow being a MAN on the internet
    User avatar
    Smelly McUgly
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3754
    Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:30 pm
    Location: God's Country AKA Cascadia AKA The Pacific Northwest


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:34 pm
  • Wilhelmsen was amazing to start the year. Then came the Cleveland Indians game on May 20th, where the ump would not call a strike for him. This made Wilhelmsen have to throw the ball over the plate, which of course was hit, causing a run to be scored. Ever since that game, he has been shaky. He has confidence issues that need to be resolved.
    User avatar
    The Outfield
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2256
    Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:11 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:21 pm
  • So can we DFA Harang and bring up Erasmo Ramirez now?
    "If given the opportunity without fear of incarceration, I would honestly beat the living **** out of Jerry Rice."

    --Internet tough guy HawkWow being a MAN on the internet
    User avatar
    Smelly McUgly
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3754
    Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:30 pm
    Location: God's Country AKA Cascadia AKA The Pacific Northwest


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:32 pm
  • Smelly McUgly wrote:Wilhelmsen is nothing like League. Wilhelmsen has (had?) an ace-curveball. League just threw really hard.


    That curve is the ONLY thing Wilhelmsen has, but he can't throw it every damn pitch! Not many pitches are harder on the wrist, arm, and elbow.

    League wasn't a bad closer. When he could find that split fingered fastball, he was unhittable. The heat was always on tap.
    Feel free to contact me if you need legal assistance. I have a great lawyer that helped me with an ex who violated my privacy and kept harassing me on MySpace and Facebook. He's very good. And there is legal precedent. - linuxpro

    He is hold back the legion of boom - skater18000
    User avatar
    SmokinHawk
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 5733
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:29 am
    Location: Back in Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:04 pm
  • SmokinHawk wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:Wilhelmsen is nothing like League. Wilhelmsen has (had?) an ace-curveball. League just threw really hard.


    That curve is the ONLY thing Wilhelmsen has, but he can't throw it every damn pitch! Not many pitches are harder on the wrist, arm, and elbow.

    League wasn't a bad closer. When he could find that split fingered fastball, he was unhittable. The heat was always on tap.


    You mean besides the 98 MPH fastball. I think he will be fine. All pitchers go through this, he will get through it. We definitely shouldn't give up on him.
    User avatar
    bigtrain21
    * NET GIF Master *
     
    Posts: 1254
    Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:48 am


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:12 pm
  • bigtrain21 wrote:
    SmokinHawk wrote:
    Smelly McUgly wrote:Wilhelmsen is nothing like League. Wilhelmsen has (had?) an ace-curveball. League just threw really hard.


    That curve is the ONLY thing Wilhelmsen has, but he can't throw it every damn pitch! Not many pitches are harder on the wrist, arm, and elbow.

    League wasn't a bad closer. When he could find that split fingered fastball, he was unhittable. The heat was always on tap.


    You mean besides the 98 MPH fastball. I think he will be fine. All pitchers go through this, he will get through it. We definitely shouldn't give up on him.


    Wilhelmsen has the heat, but every hitter facing him knows exactly where he is going to place it.
    Feel free to contact me if you need legal assistance. I have a great lawyer that helped me with an ex who violated my privacy and kept harassing me on MySpace and Facebook. He's very good. And there is legal precedent. - linuxpro

    He is hold back the legion of boom - skater18000
    User avatar
    SmokinHawk
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
    *PLATINUM SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 5733
    Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:29 am
    Location: Back in Seattle


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:23 pm
  • bigtrain21 wrote:You mean besides the 98 MPH fastball. I think he will be fine. All pitchers go through this, he will get through it. We definitely shouldn't give up on him.


    Yup. For whatever reason (and there could be myriads of them) the bartender has lost his mojo right now, but i have no reservations that it's not coming back. His stuff is just too good.

    As far as Brandon League, well, mattingly has figured out what he's got there now too, hence League's removal from the closer role.
    User avatar
    400WattHPSHawk
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
    *SILVER SUPPORTER*
     
    Posts: 1815
    Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:09 pm
    Location: Central Washington


Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:33 am

Re: Let's Talk Mariners
Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:24 am
  • m0ng0 wrote:Bonderman is starting to impress


    His last few outings have been impressive, but his strikeout rate hasn't been. Not sure if he can keep this up without striking people out.
    User avatar
    The Outfield
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2256
    Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:11 am


PreviousNext


It is currently Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:56 am

Please REGISTER to become a member

Return to [ THE SPORTS BAR ]




Information
  • Who is online
  • Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests