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 Post subject: Re: Let's Talk Mariners
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As one of the more hopeful M's fans, let me say, this season looks awful. My goal was to see a season that inspired hope, and now I'm starting to think I should scale that back. Still have the prospects to build a good team, but right now our young guys who we would have liked to see more than less hitting ceilings rather than floors (Ackley, Smoak, Montero, etc.) seem to, inexplicably, all be hitting their floors. Absurd. It begins to feel like less that we are making bad moves and more that we are cursed. Morse and Morales still look decent enough, but I'm absolutely in shock of how awful our batting prospects are at the big league level.

Still. ZOO-NEE-NO. That kid is going to be a real stud. I don't think they should even bother calling him up this year, let him hit a slump in the AAAs....but also, this season, if they follow my advice, I might go to more Tacoma games than Mariners games, and I live at the tip of North Seattle. PITA to go to Tacoma.


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An article claiming the M's are the next Nationals. We'll see.

http://insidesportsillustrated.com/2013 ... next-nats/

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Starting to look historically bad again.

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Starting to look historically bad again.



Whoa! What are you on about? 11-3!..... THREE!


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Yeah, we finally scored a run for the first time in like 19 innings, and it wasn't just one run, it was three!!! :D


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16 of 20 games this year we have scored 3 runs or less.


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16 of 20 games this year we have scored 3 runs or less.



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16 of 20 games this year we have scored 3 runs or less.


As a Mariners fan, 3 runs is pretty incredible. Not sure why you included 3 in that stat....?


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Justin Smoak will need 10 hits in his next AB to avoid worst batting average ever by a 1B/DH with 1500 PAs. http://ow.ly/khfrM


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Justin Smoak will need 10 hits in his next AB to avoid worst batting average ever by a 1B/DH with 1500 PAs. http://ow.ly/khfrM


Ha ha. I really don't like his chances. Why don't we send him down. Does he have player options left?


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Justin Smoak will need 10 hits in his next AB to avoid worst batting average ever by a 1B/DH with 1500 PAs. http://ow.ly/khfrM


That actually surprises me that .229 is the current lowest and that the averages go up so quickly from there.


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This team is awful! And too think, I liked the moves we made in the offseason, but yet again they mean nothing. I hate being an M's fan sometimes!

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Justin Smoak will need 10 hits in his next AB to avoid worst batting average ever by a 1B/DH with 1500 PAs. http://ow.ly/khfrM

Seriously Jack, just give up on the guy.

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decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


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decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


Seager has been hitting pretty good as of late. I'm not worried too much about him. I am concerned about the others. The fact that Ackley, Montero, and Smoak all have looked as bad as they have is severely bad luck on the M's part. These are all guys that were top 10 prospects when they made the M's major league roster. You'd figure at least one of them would be showing star potential by now.

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Seager leads the MLB in doubles and is hitting .409 over the last seven days. He is the last of my concerns on this team. Ackley and Montero might be turning it around a bit. But Smoak isn't showing any signs of improvement, unfortunately.


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The same thing I saw in C. Granderson back when he was coming up, i see in Kyle Seager. He's gonna be a pretty decent ball player, unfortunately the M's are blind so it probably wont be for us (Morse).
EDIT: As he hits a 2 run upper-decker!

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Holy crap, a W??? For Felix??? #100!


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Uncle Si wrote:
decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


Can't remember who, but someone was arguing with me when I said the Rangers were just fine keeping Moreland and letting Smoak go.

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decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


Seager has been hitting pretty good as of late. I'm not worried too much about him. I am concerned about the others. The fact that Ackley, Montero, and Smoak all have looked as bad as they have is severely bad luck on the M's part. These are all guys that were top 10 prospects when they made the M's major league roster. You'd figure at least one of them would be showing star potential by now.


At this point I'm just hoping that at least one of those guys starts showing any potential at all to be a decent MLB player.

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Was surprised by the statistical lines of Seager... very encouraging.

Some hitting taking place last night. lets see if Ackely, Smoak and Montero can leep it up

(christ im far too hopeful)


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Funny in a depressing (and mariners) way that Seager, who was likely an afterthought draft pick after Ackley and his room mate at North Carolina, might replace him at second base in the future.


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Smoak is warming up as well.

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I've never been a Jack Z hater, but he's been making it very hard lately. Peguero over Thames? How does he justify that? I know in the overall scheme of things it won't matter much seeing as Saunders will be back soon, but it's still a dumb move.

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Robert Andino has been named the starting SS from this point on............yipee. We go from a .140 hitter to a .090 hitter. Can we call Nick Franklin up yet?

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Robert Andino has been named the starting SS from this point on............yipee. We go from a .140 hitter to a .090 hitter. Can we call Nick Franklin up yet?



He better be as good as Ryan defensively because that is the only thing that we had going for the position.

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Robert Andino has been named the starting SS from this point on............yipee. We go from a .140 hitter to a .090 hitter. Can we call Nick Franklin up yet?


Well, hopefully Andino either gets hitting or Wedge soon brings in one of our AAA infielders that looks like they have promise. We have a few of them.


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It's so depressing to see us loosing series to the Astros! Weren't the Astros supposed to be baaaaadd this year!! Can't wait for football to start again. ::groan::


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It's pretty sad when the M's have given the Astros 3 of their 6 wins, about to be 4 of their 7.


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Lol, every time I check the score, the Astros go up 3-5 more. All I can do is chuckle.


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This team is so depressing.

I can see it now...

"Mariners set interviews for new GM and Manager"

"High hopes for young club"

"New new four year plan!"

Uggghhhh.

Side note, it was nice to see Ackley have a good game. Smoak finally went yard too.

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That's why I said giving an extension to Felix was a bad move.


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And Hopefully we see the last of Guti.

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That's why I said giving an extension to Felix was a bad move.


Uh... I'm still missing your point?


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Yeah a real shame too cuz dude can play. He's just never on the field.

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You'll probably win tonight, we're just as bad as you.

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Another good night by my boy Kyle Seager, dude is on fire!

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Endy Chavez is on fire too. Good to see Peguero hit a gigantic blast as well.


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How about Maurer ? 3 Solid games in a row !

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How about Maurer ? 3 Solid games in a row !



and a nice run at the plate for Montero, Smoak, Ackley and Seager of late as well.

be nice to see some consistency and wins come from this


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I believe in Ackley and obviously Seager.

Smoak and Montero are clueless against any kind of decent pitching.

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Justin Smoak......please find your way off of this team already. I'm never watching another at bat of his again, pointless.

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OMG. Smoak struck out twice tonight with 2 outs, bases loaded.


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Ryans benching lasted a whopping 1 game?

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Ryans benching lasted a whopping 1 game?


He wasn't benched. It was simply determined that Andino would be the primary/starting SS. But it's a bit weird that Andino is still in (at 2nd) when Ryan is at SS.

@Sailor Haha, I know right? Pretty sad.


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0-10 with the bases loaded and 1 rbi in the last 2 games. 7 abs with less than 2 outs. Christ on a bike

(And 1st and 2nd right after... don't bunt them over, strike out swinging... its as if the manager hasn't an idea who his batters are)


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My only hope is that the Mariners regain relevance before they're run out of town. I don't know if I could recover from losing them, in terms of baseball fandom. It's so demoralizing that, after a run of incompetence (Bavasi), we've had a run of usually-good decision making but awful luck. Picking up top offensive prospects like Montero, Smoak, and Ackley by all rights should have worked out (at least 2 of the 3), and that none of them are right now is crushing.

Sometimes good decisions turn out horribly. The Mariners have had more than their fair share of it, though.


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Sweet, another win for Felix!! If our bats stay as hot as they are and we can start to hit with RISP, we'll do pretty good. Now to think about Harang and Saunders......


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