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 Post subject: Re: Let's Talk Mariners
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You know what was the biggest mistake they ever did?

Giving Felix that big contract extension.


Umm.. why?


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A lot of whining over a 5-7 start. Probably going to be a lot of 5 win stretches over 12 games this season. It hasn't been a great start (although Morse, Morales and Iwakuma have had strong beginnings)... but its early folks. Let's give it a month. Bad pitching and poor hitting by a lot of people. If its mid may and no improvemenstart the "next year" posts


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Well last year it was just poor hitting, the pitching was the strength, now other then Felix it appears there is a few holes there also. Typically early on pitching is ahead of the hitters till things begin to warm up.

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Well last year it was just poor hitting, the pitching was the strength, now other then Felix it appears there is a few holes there also. Typically early on pitching is ahead of the hitters till things begin to warm up.




Huh? Iwakuma has pitched very well so far.

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In case anyone was wondering what happened to him, Kawasaki got called up from the Blue Jays AAA team when Reyes went down. He had an RBI in his first plate appearance.

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Mauer's last start was pretty solid as well. We are ahead of the "dream team" angels so far :D

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Carmon1274 wrote:
You know what was the biggest mistake they ever did?

Giving Felix that big contract extension.


By far some of the dumber opinions I've heard. What are you going to do... not pay a perennial cy-young contender who's only 27 and by all means took a hometown pay cut?

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Harang is looking pretty damn goo in his first start. Especially good considering it is against the offensive juggernaut that is the Detroit Tigers.

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And, immediately after hitting submit, Harang allows a 2-run bomb to Cabrerra.

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Well you did say that he was looking goo, so perhaps no need to edit?


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Apparently not. Looks like it is the Mariners vs. Detroit Cabrera's

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Well, it became pretty ugly in the 8th when two runs were walked in.

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2 walked in after the ump blew a call on a 3rd strike.. Again. This has happened to the mariners probably 4-5 games in a row now.

Yeah it happens to every team but this crap gets old when it happens every day. They blow a call then the other team scores.

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Felix is probably going to play about 30 games.
He's already 1-2 and the only game I saw, was against Texas where he was missing the zone, and Jesus was really lazy covering the ball in the ground.

The reason why I said that the contract extension was a mistake because he's only gonna contribute 30-35 games. 7 years for 175 million? That's crazy for a team that has no hitters. The reason why FA don't come to Seattle is because Seattle is not a intriguing place for FA. No hitters only 2 good Pitchers. If I was the GM, I would had traded Felix for 1 good pitching prospect and 2 good hitters. People would overtrade for Felix, look at Dodgers or Toronto. Somebody would had traded us for Felix, but with this contract, he won't get traded at all.

Guti is still looking terrible and injury prone.
Ackley? Becoming more of a Garbage.
Smoak part of the Cliff Lee trade? Garbage.
Seager? Who was very good for the Mariners this season? Nope garbage this year.
Jesús? Part of the Pineda trade? Yes Mariner fans believe they won the trade, but Jesus is terrible. We all seen what Pineda is capable of. When Pineda comes back June, this was a trade that the NY won.


Seattle is going to look bad for the next 8 years.


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Felix is probably going to play about 30 games.
He's already 1-2 and the only game I saw, was against Texas where he was missing the zone, and Jesus was really lazy covering the ball in the ground.

The reason why I said that the contract extension was a mistake because he's only gonna contribute 30-35 games. 7 years for 175 million? That's crazy for a team that has no hitters. The reason why FA don't come to Seattle is because Seattle is not a intriguing place for FA. No hitters only 2 good Pitchers. If I was the GM, I would had traded Felix for 1 good pitching prospect and 2 good hitters. People would overtrade for Felix, look at Dodgers or Toronto. Somebody would had traded us for Felix, but with this contract, he won't get traded at all.

Guti is still looking terrible and injury prone.
Ackley? Becoming more of a Garbage.
Smoak part of the Cliff Lee trade? Garbage.
Seager? Who was very good for the Mariners this season? Nope garbage this year.
Jesús? Part of the Pineda trade? Yes Mariner fans believe they won the trade, but Jesus is terrible. We all seen what Pineda is capable of. When Pineda comes back June, this was a trade that the NY won.


Seattle is going to look bad for the next 8 years.


Wow. You should be a GM, dude.

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Felix is probably going to play about 30 games.
He's already 1-2 and the only game I saw, was against Texas where he was missing the zone, and Jesus was really lazy covering the ball in the ground.

The reason why I said that the contract extension was a mistake because he's only gonna contribute 30-35 games. 7 years for 175 million? That's crazy for a team that has no hitters. The reason why FA don't come to Seattle is because Seattle is not a intriguing place for FA. No hitters only 2 good Pitchers. If I was the GM, I would had traded Felix for 1 good pitching prospect and 2 good hitters. People would overtrade for Felix, look at Dodgers or Toronto. Somebody would had traded us for Felix, but with this contract, he won't get traded at all.

Guti is still looking terrible and injury prone.
Ackley? Becoming more of a Garbage.
Smoak part of the Cliff Lee trade? Garbage.
Seager? Who was very good for the Mariners this season? Nope garbage this year.
Jesús? Part of the Pineda trade? Yes Mariner fans believe they won the trade, but Jesus is terrible. We all seen what Pineda is capable of. When Pineda comes back June, this was a trade that the NY won.


Seattle is going to look bad for the next 8 years.



This post contains a lot of dumb. You even called Jesus garbage, which is sure to offend the religious types.

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I just wanna say, however disappointing the team has been thus far, Iwakuma is a frickin stud. Has a better ERA than Felix right now I believe


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I just wanna say, however disappointing the team has been thus far, Iwakuma is a frickin stud. Has a better ERA than Felix right now I believe


Yeah, he was amazing the second half of last year and finished with only about a 3.00 ERA. I'm really glad we re-signed him for 2 years but wish it was longer. MAYBE we'll be a competitor 2 years from now and he'll want to re-sign again.


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As one of the more hopeful M's fans, let me say, this season looks awful. My goal was to see a season that inspired hope, and now I'm starting to think I should scale that back. Still have the prospects to build a good team, but right now our young guys who we would have liked to see more than less hitting ceilings rather than floors (Ackley, Smoak, Montero, etc.) seem to, inexplicably, all be hitting their floors. Absurd. It begins to feel like less that we are making bad moves and more that we are cursed. Morse and Morales still look decent enough, but I'm absolutely in shock of how awful our batting prospects are at the big league level.

Still. ZOO-NEE-NO. That kid is going to be a real stud. I don't think they should even bother calling him up this year, let him hit a slump in the AAAs....but also, this season, if they follow my advice, I might go to more Tacoma games than Mariners games, and I live at the tip of North Seattle. PITA to go to Tacoma.


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An article claiming the M's are the next Nationals. We'll see.

http://insidesportsillustrated.com/2013 ... next-nats/

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Starting to look historically bad again.

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Starting to look historically bad again.



Whoa! What are you on about? 11-3!..... THREE!


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Yeah, we finally scored a run for the first time in like 19 innings, and it wasn't just one run, it was three!!! :D


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16 of 20 games this year we have scored 3 runs or less.


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16 of 20 games this year we have scored 3 runs or less.



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16 of 20 games this year we have scored 3 runs or less.


As a Mariners fan, 3 runs is pretty incredible. Not sure why you included 3 in that stat....?


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Ha ha. I really don't like his chances. Why don't we send him down. Does he have player options left?


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That actually surprises me that .229 is the current lowest and that the averages go up so quickly from there.


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This team is awful! And too think, I liked the moves we made in the offseason, but yet again they mean nothing. I hate being an M's fan sometimes!

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Seriously Jack, just give up on the guy.

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decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


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Uncle Si wrote:
decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


Seager has been hitting pretty good as of late. I'm not worried too much about him. I am concerned about the others. The fact that Ackley, Montero, and Smoak all have looked as bad as they have is severely bad luck on the M's part. These are all guys that were top 10 prospects when they made the M's major league roster. You'd figure at least one of them would be showing star potential by now.

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Seager leads the MLB in doubles and is hitting .409 over the last seven days. He is the last of my concerns on this team. Ackley and Montero might be turning it around a bit. But Smoak isn't showing any signs of improvement, unfortunately.


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The same thing I saw in C. Granderson back when he was coming up, i see in Kyle Seager. He's gonna be a pretty decent ball player, unfortunately the M's are blind so it probably wont be for us (Morse).
EDIT: As he hits a 2 run upper-decker!

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Holy crap, a W??? For Felix??? #100!


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Uncle Si wrote:
decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


Can't remember who, but someone was arguing with me when I said the Rangers were just fine keeping Moreland and letting Smoak go.

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Uncle Si wrote:
decent piece on Smoak on USSMariner, basically saying its time to move on from Smoak and advocating finding a triple a guy.

thats one down, with Seeger, Ackely, Montero to go. These three have to become real major leaguers or this club is screwed for years to come


Seager has been hitting pretty good as of late. I'm not worried too much about him. I am concerned about the others. The fact that Ackley, Montero, and Smoak all have looked as bad as they have is severely bad luck on the M's part. These are all guys that were top 10 prospects when they made the M's major league roster. You'd figure at least one of them would be showing star potential by now.


At this point I'm just hoping that at least one of those guys starts showing any potential at all to be a decent MLB player.

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Was surprised by the statistical lines of Seager... very encouraging.

Some hitting taking place last night. lets see if Ackely, Smoak and Montero can leep it up

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Funny in a depressing (and mariners) way that Seager, who was likely an afterthought draft pick after Ackley and his room mate at North Carolina, might replace him at second base in the future.


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Smoak is warming up as well.

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I've never been a Jack Z hater, but he's been making it very hard lately. Peguero over Thames? How does he justify that? I know in the overall scheme of things it won't matter much seeing as Saunders will be back soon, but it's still a dumb move.

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Robert Andino has been named the starting SS from this point on............yipee. We go from a .140 hitter to a .090 hitter. Can we call Nick Franklin up yet?

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Robert Andino has been named the starting SS from this point on............yipee. We go from a .140 hitter to a .090 hitter. Can we call Nick Franklin up yet?



He better be as good as Ryan defensively because that is the only thing that we had going for the position.

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Robert Andino has been named the starting SS from this point on............yipee. We go from a .140 hitter to a .090 hitter. Can we call Nick Franklin up yet?


Well, hopefully Andino either gets hitting or Wedge soon brings in one of our AAA infielders that looks like they have promise. We have a few of them.


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It's so depressing to see us loosing series to the Astros! Weren't the Astros supposed to be baaaaadd this year!! Can't wait for football to start again. ::groan::


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It's pretty sad when the M's have given the Astros 3 of their 6 wins, about to be 4 of their 7.


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