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 Post subject: Re: Rebuilding the Kings/Sonics
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We have a 1st round protected pick owed to the Cavs, we have to be bad for like 3 years for them to not get it.

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WTF??
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Who was the genius that orchestrated that?

All that for JJ Hickson? what in the hell?

Oh well, If Hansen and Co. want to rebuild, looks like either Evans or Cousins gotta go.

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Who was the genius that orchestrated that?

All that for JJ Hickson? what in the hell?

Oh well, If Hansen and Co. want to rebuild, looks like either Evans or Cousins gotta go.


And to just release him as well. Bad ownership makes for bad basketball operations.

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Pick is basically lottery protected, if they lose it...it's not that big a deal.


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We won't lose it until we're good. I think it's okay. We could still build like when we got Durant and Westbrooke.

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I think I have a favorite prospect in this draft, already.

Marcus Smart out of Oklahoma State, NBAdraft.net has him going to the Kings(maybe sonics)

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Sounds good to me. We could use him in a three guard rotation. He is too similar to Evans, though. I think the Kings are tanking nicely for us right now, so our position just keeps getting higher. We could end up getting one of the superstars - if there are any.

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Hmm an Oklahoma State prospect, irony at it's best...........................

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Sounds good to me. We could use him in a three guard rotation. He is too similar to Evans, though. I think the Kings are tanking nicely for us right now, so our position just keeps getting higher. We could end up getting one of the superstars - if there are any.


The common thought is that there isn't that prospect in this years potential crop. The more I think about it, the more I think Evans will be allowed to walk this offseason, there will be a lot going on with the team, like the relocation and total rebuild of the Front Office and the inevitable coaching changes that go along with a complete tear down. It also wouldn't surprise me to see Cousins involved in a draft day trade and a few moves after for expiring contracts.

I don't think Smart is a superstar, maybe a fringe all-star player kind of a career like Rashard Lewis (not comparing them as players), but a really good contributing player who can be special for whatever team he plays for.

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Sounds like a blood and guts guy, does the dirty work that greases the wheels for the highlight reel guys. very young also could deveop a lot more NBA skills that could set him apart. Sounds very John Stockton type, smart versus a pure athlete, dedicated and always looking to get better and not afraid of work.

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Sounds like a blood and guts guy, does the dirty work that greases the wheels for the highlight reel guys. very young also could deveop a lot more NBA skills that could set him apart. Sounds very John Stockton type, smart versus a pure athlete, dedicated and always looking to get better and not afraid of work.


Exactly what I was trying to get across!

I see him as more Ron Artest (defensively) Meets a poor mans James Harden (offensively)

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As a Kings and Seahawks fan I'd recommend getting rid of both Evans and Cousins if you get the team. Evans is a ball hog who kills ball movement. Cousins is a distraction who will only ever come around if he's on a winning vet-laden team. His bad attitude is not conducive to rebuilding. I hope the Kings stay in Sacramento and get rid of these guys.


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after watching another player to check out, Nerlens Noel. Lorddddddddddddddddddddddddd he's good!

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Some interesting nuggets from Stein's Weekend Dime this morning.
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More clarity on where they'll actually be playing next season is expected two weekends from now when the league's power brokers all migrate to Houston for the All-Star Game and the meetings and madness that surround it. But this isn't the place for Seattle-or-Sacramento stuff anyway.

This is the place to talk about Tyreke Evans, since DeMarcus Cousins remains firmly off-limits while the Kings are in sale limbo, according to NBA front-office sources.

As for Evans? Word is the Grizzlies would have loved to acquire him as part of the big trade that sent Gay away, but the Kings really aren't in a position to take on salary as they await clarification on who'll be buying the team from the Maloof brothers.

A couple of teams consulted have volunteered the notion that Kings GM Geoff Petrie is ready to move Evans, but you have to wonder how much shot-calling Petrie can do at the minute. The greater likelihood is that the Kings don't do anything at this deadline unless it saves money or comes in cash neutral.


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I know one player I'd love to see them try and get though, Eric Bledsoe, the back up PG for the Clippers. Dude is easily a starter in this league.

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I know one player I'd love to see them try and get though, Eric Bledsoe, the back up PG for the Clippers. Dude is easily a starter in this league.


He's got skills, irionically Stein actually mentioned him in that article saying he's a possible big trade chip for Pierce. However Clippers won't move him until they know if Chris Paul is gonna resign or walk, which makes alot of sense.


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Omar Smart or Nerlens Noel would be my pick in the draft if given the opportunity.

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I think it's best if the current incompetant head office does nothing whatsoever and just passes on all the trade bait to the new regime Hanson will hire. He's buddies with Paul Allen. We could see a John Schnieder style rebuild.

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Random question but why did Paul Allan buy the Trail Blazers rather than the Sonics before they moved? Does he live in Portland a lot?


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Random question but why did Paul Allan buy the Trail Blazers rather than the Sonics before they moved? Does he live in Portland a lot?


Allen's owned the Blazers for almost 25 years.

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Random question but why did Paul Allan buy the Trail Blazers rather than the Sonics before they moved? Does he live in Portland a lot?


Allen's owned the Blazers for almost 25 years.


Ahh. Thanks for clearing that up. :th2thumbs:


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I think I have a favorite prospect in this draft, already.

Marcus Smart out of Oklahoma State, NBAdraft.net has him going to the Kings(maybe sonics)

Check him out.
http://nbadraft.net/players/marcus-smart

And a story that would endear him to Seattle fans http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc ... e/1850729/


Smart is legitimately good, but he needs a lot of work. Raw talent but needs good coaching to make it at the next level. he can also disappear for entire games at a time, chucks up a lot of bad shots and has trouble operating in heavy double-team situations. A LOT of these issues I attribute directly to Travis Ford being a poor coach, though. Ford's offense is not very good, defense is suspect.

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Paul Allen has been a hardcore Sonics fan all his life. When he was ready to buy an NBA team he tried to buy the Sonics, but they just weren't available at the time, unfortunately. I'm sure he would've done the same thing he did with the Seahawks. Hanson could be the same kind of owner. They know each other. Sonics fans have probably just got really, really lucky.

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According to nbadraft.net. We are currently projected to get Shabazz Muhammad. Personally, I wouldn't be mad at this at all.

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Weaknesses: Has improved his jumpshot but still needs some work to become more automatic ... Relies too much on his strength ... Needs to look to impact the game in other areas besides scoring ... Too left hand dominant, ball tends to stop when it gets in his hands ... Not a great creator for teammates ... Can lose focus sometimes if not involved enough offensively ... Handle needs to tighten up. Not great at creating shots off the dribble ... Prone to offensive fouls, needs to continue to round out his overall game ...

Overall: Muhammad is a terrific long term prospect ... He can score the ball in his sleep and is just scratching the surface of his ability ... Once he improves the consistency on his jumpshot he will almost be impossible to defend, great work ethic and drive to succeed will take him a long way ...

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Wouldn't be mad at all with Muhammed, dude can hoop.

He'd be a nice running partner for when the NBA hands us the #1 overall pick in 2014 for Andrew Wiggins ;)

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With 135 days left until the draft, the opportunity is still there to get in a better draft position. =)

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That's true, but I wouldn't be disappointed with Shabazz Muhammad. That'd be an inside outside threat with Cousins.

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Wouldn't be mad at all with Muhammed, dude can hoop.

He'd be a nice running partner for when the NBA hands us the #1 overall pick in 2014 for Andrew Wiggins ;)


That would be awesome! He could teach the team to use their legs as shields and to shoot between their legs!

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Bailing on the rook already...

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Bailing on the rook already...

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Man....Robinson was the player I was very excited to get if the Kings came to Seattle.

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Wow, this trade proves the Kings front office has no clue how to run a basketball team.


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There just trying to save money now, since the team isn't gonna be there's next year. Kind of smart on there part but sucks for the future Sonics.


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There just trying to save money now, since the team isn't gonna be there's next year. Kind of smart on there part but sucks for the future Sonics.


How the heck is trading a guy - who you just drafted 5th overall and is 50 games into his NBA career - for basically a pack of cigarettes a smart move? (Also passing on Lillard, Barnes, Drummond & Terrence Ross)

Whats worse for you Sonics fans is that the Kings apparently briefed the new ownership group about going ahead with the deal. Though i'm not sure how much input Hansen and co. could have had.


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Whats worse for you Sonics fans is that the Kings apparently briefed the new ownership group about going ahead with the deal. Though i'm not sure how much input Hansen and co. could have had.


Really wish Hansen/Ballmer could have stopped this but they probably have no say at it at this point and time.

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I hope they trade everybody for peanuts and rebuild it correctly here in Seattle.

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There just trying to save money now, since the team isn't gonna be there's next year. Kind of smart on there part but sucks for the future Sonics.


How the heck is trading a guy - who you just drafted 5th overall and is 50 games into his NBA career - for basically a pack of cigarettes a smart move? (Also passing on Lillard, Barnes, Drummond & Terrence Ross)

Whats worse for you Sonics fans is that the Kings apparently briefed the new ownership group about going ahead with the deal. Though i'm not sure how much input Hansen and co. could have had.

They were briefed but nothing says that they had any power to stop the move. For all we know, they just let the ownership group know of their intentions.


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They could have thrown in 4 million more (which is what the Kings saved in the trade) toward the purchase of the Kings. Really though i highly doubt they could have done anything at this point.


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Lol I don't see why GCrows mad, the team sucked with or without Robinson it's not gonna make a difference.

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He was the fifth overall pick from last years draft, that's why. This is obviously just the Maloofs saving on salary. I hope we don't see any more of these god damn trades! Even if he sucks, he's still trade bait - leave it for the new regiem.

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Lol I don't see why GCrows mad, the team sucked with or without Robinson it's not gonna make a difference.


I'm more, just baffled...yeah they are bad regardless, however it's not like Robinson is a bad player himself. He's 21, only half a season into his career and should turn out to be a very solid player in the NBA pretty soon.

Basically they traded a guy they just spent the #5 pick on 8 months ago to save less than 4 million... :?:


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I think if the move happens, I've narrowed my wants down to 3 players in the draft...

Marcus Smart PG, OK State
James McAdoo, SF/PF, North Carolina (I don't even care where he's projected, if they don't have the #1 overall pick I'm taking him anywhere outside of the top 2 picks I think those two are for Nerlens Noel if he comes out and Ben McLemore)
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Olipido... seriously that kid reminds me of MJ.... not as talented. but he flashes Jordan


He needs some work on the jumper, but god... The guy is friggin GOOD!

Depending on what happened in the offseason, it'd be a pretty awesome back court with Evans at PG and Olapido at SG.

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Olipido... seriously that kid reminds me of MJ.... not as talented. but he flashes Jordan


He needs some work on the jumper, but god... The guy is friggin GOOD!

Depending on what happened in the offseason, it'd be a pretty awesome back court with Evans at PG and Olapido at SG.


Jordan didn't have a good jumper when he came into the league either, he worked his ass off to develop one.

I want a big man in the middle that can run and is an athlete, yeah they are hard to find but getting one is the best way to guarentee a long run of success, forwards and gaurds can be found all over.

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Olipido... seriously that kid reminds me of MJ.... not as talented. but he flashes Jordan


He needs some work on the jumper, but god... The guy is friggin GOOD!

Depending on what happened in the offseason, it'd be a pretty awesome back court with Evans at PG and Olapido at SG.


Jordan didn't have a good jumper when he came into the league either, he worked his ass off to develop one.

I want a big man in the middle that can run and is an athlete, yeah they are hard to find but getting one is the best way to guarentee a long run of success, forwards and gaurds can be found all over.


lol Good luck with that in this draft!

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Jordan might've had to develop his jump shot, but he could always jump. When he shot a jump shot it was like he was getting up on a stepladder. It was unbelievable.

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I know, it's why I don't like trading away the 5th pick, teams that have been on top for decades get a middle guy. Lakers have traded a lot of players to get a big man whenever they need one, same with the Celtics over the years. They then build up around him. You don't have to draft one, you trade for one that has shown potential and or is a veteran from a cheap team and build up the cheap team with gaurds and forwards. Lakers have went after Chamberlin, Jabbar, Divoc, and many others over their history and maintained a championship type team.

The Kings Front Office gave up on a guy in like 5 months to save money is all, hope the Maloofs choke on the 30 million advance Hansen gave them.

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If you're talking about a center, the teams coming with one of the best young big men in the game in DeMarcus Cousins, the issue with him is his attitude, I personally think if you put some good dudes around who are strong they could mentor him into maturity.

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