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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:14 am
  • Defense (from the midfield back) was a shambles last night. But really more the back line. The cbacks were awful in marking and horrific with the ball.... and that is with a near 60-40 possession advantage. Yedlin again at fault for the goal. Naive marking as Wondo ran past and he failed to drop and mark. He just has to realize that's the MLS' best scorer there.

    Everything about the Sounders attack (aside from the cbacks having the ball) was solid except the final third. And this is why I asked the question on identity. Zak seemed genuinely irritated to be taken off but wasn't adding much down his side. The best attacks came down the right swinging in switches to Yedlin. Dangerous there. But even with some decent attempts they lacked finality and cohesiveness in the box. Maybe it is as simple as missing Montero but what I saw last night was much different in build up then the counter attacking style with Montero last year.

    3 games in, 1 goal, 1 point. Only 3 against but they need a finisher. I know EJ was missing, and the Earthquakes away was always a tough test. But I think there are some signs for concern there
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:09 am
  • Sounders had a decent game, fairly solid, they did enough for a draw, just didn't get it. We are at the bottom of the table right now, and its going to be tough to change that in RSL. Estrada and Ochoa were a handful upfront but they couldn't get the job done. I thought Zakuani was one of our better players vs San Jose (either him or Traore). He went at the RB all game, and is showing some big leadership on and off the field. IMO he will have the armband by the end of the season. We just missed the final ball.

    Yedlin has been called up to the U-20 USMNT, and will miss time this season. Which concerns me a bit. Johansson was our back up there, and with him out of the picture, that leaves Zach Scott to take the spot in the 11...that, or Brad Evans. Which is extremely possible. Sigi loves Evans, and we have a really, really crowded midfield. It'd be nice to get Brad on the field and I think he could play right back pretty well.

    Both Evans and Shalrie Joseph are reportedly fit now and available for selection vs Salt Lake. Martins is back as well. EJ and Mario are still with the national teams I believe.



    I'm curious to see how this team evolves.



    Oh, The Sounders also put a little bit of that Johansson money to use (around 60k of it) by signing Defender Ashani Fairclough (20, Jamaica/South Florida) and Striker/Midfielder Phillip Lund (23, Denmark).
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:16 pm
  • Looking like shit already. Only eight minutes in and no direction.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:02 am
  • Its getting late early on this Sounders campaign
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:02 am
  • Am I worried yet?


    Yes.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:18 am
  • Can't score, can't stop the other team from scoring, can't consistently hold onto the ball in the midfield. And I'm getting real tired of constantly seeing shots of Sigi standing on the sideline with a befuddled look on his face. Seattle's lucky MLS doesn't have relegation.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:54 am
  • I would say in response to the idea that they should be lucky there is no relegation with that simple fact. They don't and in any league with a playoff system, one has plenty of time to turn it around.

    I think many people are getting spoiled as the Sounders have had far more success during it's short time in the MLS than I ever expected. Sure, there are many aspects of their game that frustrates the heck out of me which I hope they can turn around. That said, it is only a handful of matches.


    As for the semi final, it is yet another home first leg in which they don't take an advantage of before heading down south for the 2nd leg.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:07 pm
  • I think the Sounders have replaced the Mariners as the Seattle sports team with the worst offense.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:56 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:I think the Sounders have replaced the Mariners as the Seattle sports team with the worst offense.


    They have a group of willing creators but nobody wants to brace the ball. It is considerably worsened by the fact that Johnson and Martins are nursing injuries.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:58 pm
  • Please, someone, anyone in rave green, put the ball in the back of the net.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:09 pm
  • It's times like these when it would have been nice to have Montero. At least, he knows how to put the ball back of the net. I felt at the time, they were a bit hasty in letting Montero on a loan. I know it had to do with DP and finances. They should have planned better before loaning him that they had a solution in place. Even with Montero, they have trouble scoring now it's much worse. It's more compounded by the fact that Martins and Johnson are hurt. However, Johnson hasn't had much effect in the games he's played thus far this year. I think they should try to bring Hercules Gomez into the fold. I think he would be a great add. He's the attacking forward (type of player) they need.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:28 pm
  • hawkfan68 wrote:I think they should try to bring Hercules Gomez into the fold. I think he would be a great add. He's the attacking forward (type of player) they need.

    There's no way Gomez leaves Mexico for MLS. The money and the quality of competition are too good down there for him to come back right now.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:58 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:I think they should try to bring Hercules Gomez into the fold. I think he would be a great add. He's the attacking forward (type of player) they need.

    There's no way Gomez leaves Mexico for MLS. The money and the quality of competition are too good down there for him to come back right now.


    Good point. I know it's a bit of pipe dream. I believe Sporting KC has rights to him should he come back to the MLS.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:23 pm
  • Finally!!!!!
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:20 pm
  • Yep, finally broke for the good. Thank Buddha.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:37 pm
  • There is a rumor out right now that the Sounders have entered preliminary talks with Santos Laguna and Sporting KC to bring Herculez Gomez to Seattle. That would be absolutely awesome.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:35 pm
  • Smurf wrote:There is a rumor out right now that the Sounders have entered preliminary talks with Santos Laguna and Sporting KC to bring Herculez Gomez to Seattle. That would be absolutely awesome.

    Odd, where would he play? Seattle already has 2 talented forwards, do they intend to move on from EJ? Who is younger and ATM a lot cheaper than Herc would be.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:24 pm
  • Most likely EJ out would be my guess.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:03 pm
  • I would not mind moving on from EJ. As effective as he has been, when on the pitch, he presents himself as the player that worries about personal accolades more than the team's effectiveness.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:19 am
  • CurryStopstheRuns wrote:I would not mind moving on from EJ. As effective as he has been, when on the pitch, he presents himself as the player that worries about personal accolades more than the team's effectiveness.



    I just dont see that in EJ. He's always going to be pushing his time at the Sounders to lead into an invite from the USMNT, but i dont see that as negatively impacting the team. Maybe im missing it.

    With the struggles the Sounders have scoring (it seems historic at this point) shouldnt they look to keep as many goal scorers as possible? Martins and EJ up top, Gomez underneath. Keep Traore and Zak out wide, tuck Alonso in with Gomez to protect.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:32 pm
  • Traore is a centerback....I suggest we keep him on the back, and not on the right flank....
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:37 pm
  • Smurf wrote:Traore is a centerback....I suggest we keep him on the back, and not on the right flank....


    meant Rosales, was reading a post and typing
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:41 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Smurf wrote:Traore is a centerback....I suggest we keep him on the back, and not on the right flank....


    meant Rosales, was reading a post and typing



    To be completely honest, I can see Rosales being gone before EJ. Rosales, while a great player, is an injury prone veteran who won't be with the club next season. Add to the fact that he is taking up a DP slot. I can see Rosales being moved during the summer. Especially considering how stacked our midfield is.


    In other news, it sounds like Robbie Rodgers is close to coming out of retirement (he retired a few months ago after coming out that he was Gay). Sigi said that if he was to come out of retirement he'd love to have him. Rodgers played for Sigi at Columbus. Chicago currently hold his rights.


    I could see us bringing in both Herc and Rodgers this summer.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Wed May 01, 2013 8:22 am
  • i thought it was funny...

    anyways. this team needs scoring. I cant see giving up EJ or Rosales unless more dynamic players come in. While gomez has a nice history of netting goals in Mexico, it hasnt translated to much on the USMNT. Id like him, but not at the expense of proven scorers.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 04, 2013 3:53 pm
  • Sounders grab a 2-2 away draw. Last five minutes were a red card festival with three total. Two for the Sounders and one for the Union.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 04, 2013 5:56 pm
  • CurryStopstheRuns wrote:Sounders grab a 2-2 away draw. Last five minutes were a red card festival with three total. Two for the Sounders and one for the Union.



    At least they showed fight and desire today. Could tell they wanted it. Frustrated not to be playing well.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 04, 2013 6:00 pm
  • The Sounders defense is brutal. The Union should have had at least 4 goals that game. The Sounders were very lucky to come away with a draw. The only bright spots on defense is the goalkeeping and Traore. The rest leave a lot to be desired. They are awful. I was impressed with Yedlin earlier but the more I see of him the less I think he's a defender. He may be better off in the midfield. He has a lot of speed and enthusiaism but lets too many guys run by him. Luckily, there's Traore or Gspurning to bail hm out. I know he's young but if Sounders can't score, then they can't afford to give up goals.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sun May 05, 2013 6:35 am
  • Seattle absolutely stole a point they didn't deserve yesterday, and the officiating was horrible. That match was an embarrassment to the team and the league.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Thu May 09, 2013 4:57 am
  • SeatownJay wrote:Seattle absolutely stole a point they didn't deserve yesterday, and the officiating was horrible. That match was an embarrassment to the team and the league.


    Talk about stealing some points, the game @KC yesterday we won 1-0 in 90+5 stoppage time. Traore scored a excellently timed goal that had KC's GK looking like he was about to cry. Considering there was only 3 minutes of extra time and we scored in the 95th minute on the road, not to mention KC thought traore was off (which we wasn't) I'd say that qualifies as a steal. Maybe the Sounders luck will finally change, this team is a lot better than their record.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Thu May 09, 2013 5:07 am
  • McG wrote:
    SeatownJay wrote:Seattle absolutely stole a point they didn't deserve yesterday, and the officiating was horrible. That match was an embarrassment to the team and the league.


    Talk about stealing some points, the game @KC yesterday we won 1-0 in 90+5 stoppage time. Traore scored a excellently timed goal that had KC's GK looking like he was about to cry. Considering there was only 3 minutes of extra time and we scored in the 95th minute on the road, not to mention KC thought traore was off (which we wasn't) I'd say that qualifies as a steal. Maybe the Sounders luck will finally change, this team is a lot better than their record.



    Meh, I would not call it a "steal' since there was a blatant handball by KC right by the goal. It was so blatant that backup GK Hahnemann was sent off in the 24th by the fourth referee for complaining about it. I guess that is what happens when you have a 20 game head referee. The fourth referee has only 50 games under his belt. That particular crew is pretty green.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Thu May 09, 2013 10:16 am
  • CurryStopstheRuns wrote:
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    SeatownJay wrote:Seattle absolutely stole a point they didn't deserve yesterday, and the officiating was horrible. That match was an embarrassment to the team and the league.


    Talk about stealing some points, the game @KC yesterday we won 1-0 in 90+5 stoppage time. Traore scored a excellently timed goal that had KC's GK looking like he was about to cry. Considering there was only 3 minutes of extra time and we scored in the 95th minute on the road, not to mention KC thought traore was off (which we wasn't) I'd say that qualifies as a steal. Maybe the Sounders luck will finally change, this team is a lot better than their record.



    Meh, I would not call it a "steal' since there was a blatant handball by KC right by the goal. It was so blatant that backup GK Hahnemann was sent off in the 24th by the fourth referee for complaining about it. I guess that is what happens when you have a 20 game head referee. The fourth referee has only 50 games under his belt. That particular crew is pretty green.



    so much of that game was "MLS".... but 3 points for the Sounders, and I believe that makes 7 of 9 from the Sounders. Not pretty, but very necessary.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Thu May 09, 2013 10:38 am
  • I agree. It was one of the worst matches that I have watched as far as officiating goes. Even the linesmen were shitting the bed.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 11, 2013 7:52 am
  • For those not in the Seattle area, MLS is having a free trial weekend for their MLSLive streaming service.

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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 11, 2013 2:03 pm
  • Seattle has their best match of the year by far, beating San Jose 4-0. And I think it was no coincidence at all that the back line had their best match as a group in the first one that JKH didn't play in.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 11, 2013 2:47 pm
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 11, 2013 4:24 pm
  • Great day for the Sounders. Sunshine, a roaring crowd, a clean sheet, and goals. Does it get any better?
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 11, 2013 4:54 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:Seattle has their best match of the year by far, beating San Jose 4-0. And I think it was no coincidence at all that the back line had their best match as a group in the first one that JKH didn't play in.


    Ditto. Nice to see Neagle have a great game. Hopefully they can keep it up.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 11, 2013 6:34 pm
  • Couldn't have asked for a better result.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue May 14, 2013 12:21 pm
  • Just came across this thread. I'm a huge sounders fan with season tickets since 2009. The sounders this season have been interesting to say the least. I think we are finally hitting our stride. It will be huge to get Oba fit and playing everyday. What do you think of Neagle? Is he best utilized as the third striker, or when Oba and Eddie are both playing, slide him out wide? I think he has displaced Zak on the striker depth chart, but probably not as a winger. Neagle seemed to disappear when Oba came in last Saturday and he slid over.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue May 14, 2013 1:38 pm
  • I would be tempted to run a 4-3-3 with Morales, Martinez, and Zak as the mids, EJ, Martins, and Neagle as a forward combo.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue May 14, 2013 1:45 pm
  • I was looking into the 4-3-3 formation with Neagle inserted. However, they could still use 4-4-2 as well. I've seen teams use an upper-midfield and lower-midfield combination for central midfielders. So Sounders could use this with Alonso in lower mid, Neagle upper mid, plus Rosales and Zak on the wings. Here, you have Johnson and Martins on top. Subs could be Joseph, Martinez, Rose, Caskey, Carrasco, and Evans.

    In simpler terms, what I was trying to say is a 4-3-1-2 formation rather than 4-4-2. Here's the link to a visual of that formation -
    http://football-formation.com/formations/4-3-1-2. I don't believe any team is using this formation per se but many teams use a variation of 4-4-2 that sort of resembles this.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue May 14, 2013 3:39 pm
  • How about we leave Andy rose on the bench, forever.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Tue May 14, 2013 4:35 pm
  • CurryStopstheRuns wrote:How about we leave Andy rose on the bench, forever.


    No disagreement from me on that one.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Wed May 15, 2013 8:48 am
  • Lamar Neagle is a lot like Brad Evans in the fact that you want him on the pitch cause he is a gamer. He's a guy that gives it his all everytime he's out there and can make a difference. Neagle can play up front our out wide and is decently good at both.


    I still think that Rosales and Zakuani are still the first choices for wingers, but right behind him is Martinez, Neagle and Evans.

    Up top its gotta be EJ, Oba, Neagle, Estrada.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 18, 2013 7:08 pm
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 18, 2013 8:08 pm
  • Entertaining game. That red card was ridiculous though.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 18, 2013 9:37 pm
  • Yeah that red was pretty damn harsh, especially since Carassco got called for the exact same thing earlier in the game and didn't even get a yellow for it.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sat May 18, 2013 11:29 pm
  • The red was excessive where a yellow would have sufficed. However, let's not let that take away from a complete dismantling of the Western conferences best team. The Sounders could have and should have placed a seven spot on FC Dallas who were outclassed the entire evening.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sun May 19, 2013 1:16 am
  • Lets just go ahead and play the high line offside trap against a team that features Lamar Neagle, Eddie Johnson and Obafemi Martins...Yeah, that should work. Horrible game plan and the execution of it was even worse. Those tactics against this club will end up with goals upon goals upon goals...and thats exactly what happened.

    I know everyone will be talking about the red, and about EJ, Neagle and Oba getting goals but I want to point out one player who was exceptional. Servando Carrasco. He was spraying balls all over the pitch last night. He looked a little bit like a poor mans Paul Scholes (I cringe everytime Carrasco goes in for a slide tackle). His play over the past 4 games has been outstanding.

    That being said...I hope Ozzie isn't out too long with his groin strain.
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Re: Sounders Season Thread
Sun May 19, 2013 9:57 am
  • It's always good to see your strikers score. All the goals came from the top guys - Johnson (2), Neagle, and Martins. I believe Martins has a gaol in every game he's played. Dallas is a good team but the drop-off in the middle was quite noticeable once Ozzie got hurt and left. I'm talking about the drop-off in pace and speed. The Sounders were much slower. Thus Dallas was able to put them into more set pieces and controlled the ball better. When they ran, Sounders dominated the game. They could have easily had 5-6 goals this came. Evans had a beautiful opportunity that he didn't finish. Johnson had one earlier in the match. With that sais, the Sounders are hot right now. It seems the team has found ways to play together and win. Their chemistry seems to be real good.
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