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  • Sounders lacked a bit of class being in the refs face. It was a straight red regardless. So fed up with the Sounders choking under Sigi at this time of year.
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  • SeatownJay wrote:
    Spounge84 wrote:Give Will Johnson an Oscar

    Whether or not he embellished, there's no excuse for Ozzie to swing his elbow at someone's jaw. And this isn't new. He's constantly doing stuff like this. As talented as he is, he's a hothead and Sigi's done nothing to try and keep him under control.


    Oh, I agree Ozzie shouldn't have swung his elbow at him. I just find it funny how the Timbers owner claims his players don't do that crap, and then they do exactly that.
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  • Also sick of US call ups and the schedule conflicts. Our main striker missing and hurt on duty, our midfielder who has upped his form also out. I hate international football.
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  • Glasgow Seahawk wrote:Also sick of US call ups and the schedule conflicts. Our main striker missing and hurt on duty, our midfielder who has upped his form also out. I hate international football.

    Or maybe the MLS should do what just about every other major league does and take the week off when there's an international schedule.
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  • That's what I referred to by schedule conflicts. Makes the league seem so amateur.
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  • I am hands in face embarrassed right now...
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  • If we struggled in the play offs does Sigi go? If so, who would you like to replace him? I'm not sure how well a European manager would do with a salary cap and draft. What is Bruce Arenas contract situation like? Could see it being Brian Schmetzer myself.
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  • If we fail to win the Supporters Shield or MLS cup there is a 85% chance Sigi is gone.
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  • Smurf wrote:If we fail to win the Supporters Shield or MLS cup there is a 85% chance Sigi is gone.

    Well, considering there's only like a 5% chance we win the MLS Cup (we're not winning the Supporter's Shield, that dream is dead), then it's a safe bet that Sigi's going to be looking for work in November. And I for one look forward to the change.
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  • Spounge84 wrote:Give Will Johnson an Oscar


    That was beautiful, actually. Took the elbow and turned to the ref to make sure he saw it.

    I'm not sure which makes me happier: Being in first place with a chance to solidify it against RSL or watching the Sounders season implode.

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  • If you're truly a timber there is only one way to feel about it ...
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  • Smurf wrote:If you're truly a timber there is only one way to feel about it ...



    i'd imagine first place should always mean more than anything else.
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  • We've been fined for the ref confrontation.
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  • Not at all shocking
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  • Can they fire Schmid yet?
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  • DVRed the game... wont bother watching.

    If this team doesn't make noise in the playoffs, it's time for a full rebuild.
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  • Thanks for locking us into the playoffs!
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:Thanks for locking us into the playoffs!



    You can't draw your way to a championship.
    I am a firm believer in luck, and I found that the harder I work the more I have of it.
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  • CurryStopstheRuns wrote:
    Sarlacc83 wrote:Thanks for locking us into the playoffs!



    You can't draw your way to a championship.


    Even harder to lose your way into one.
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:
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    Sarlacc83 wrote:Thanks for locking us into the playoffs!



    You can't draw your way to a championship.


    Even harder to lose your way into one.


    That may not be true as we just lost our way into the playoffs.
    I am a firm believer in luck, and I found that the harder I work the more I have of it.
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  • the recent demise of the Sounders (not just in the w-l column but just in the overall play) has completely taken away any interest in the playoffs i have. only a matchup with the Timbers would encourage a watch
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  • CurryStopstheRuns wrote:
    Sarlacc83 wrote:
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    You can't draw your way to a championship.


    Even harder to lose your way into one.


    That may not be true as we just lost our way into the playoffs.


    Hmmm, you may have a point.
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  • Sorry, I don't follow the MLS close enough to know for certain. If the Sounders finish 4 or 5 in the West, that means they have to play in a play-in game, correct?
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  • Correct.

    If we beat LA we jump them in the standings and will finish 3rd, getting a first round bye.
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  • oh hey, its EJ being EJ at the worst possible time...



    ....great...
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  • I am just so ready for this season to be over so the rebuilding can begin.
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  • SeatownJay wrote:I am just so ready for this season to be over so the rebuilding can begin.



    ....what rebuilding???


    are you on crack?
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  • Smurf wrote:
    SeatownJay wrote:I am just so ready for this season to be over so the rebuilding can begin.



    ....what rebuilding???


    are you on crack?

    Do we keep Eddie? Mauro? Who is our next DP?
    A rebuild is coming.
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  • Mauro will be back as a non DP, most likely. He said he wants to play two more years here, and I think he knows he wont get DP money to stay.

    Ozzie will be our next DP, you can almost count on it. Dude is good enough to warrant it. L.A. did it with Omar Gonzalez earlier this year.

    If Eddie Says then thats great. We have 3 legit goal scorers on our squad. We have a good rotation.

    If he goes, great, we can play dempsey in behind Oba and utilize more midfield oriented formations (4-3-3/4-5-1/4-2-3-1). Sure that'll mean we have to bring in another 2nd tier striker (A neagle, or Fucito type).


    Team isn't rebuilding. Not really. A few pieces of the puzzle will change, but not enough to create a new puzzle.
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  • The new coach will want to rebuild this roster, Smurf.
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  • SeatownJay wrote:The new coach will want to rebuild this roster, Smurf.



    There won't be a new coach.

    Management said they won't be making any emotional decisions about Sigi's future. The last 6 games of the season doesn't hold the key to his future. He's a solid coach who has taken an expansion team to the playoffs 5 strait years.


    I think everyone is over blowing the whole Sigi out thing.


    Even if Sigi goes you're not going to see that much roster turn-over. You're probably less likely to see guys like Estrada, Rose, Caskey...but thats about it.


    Eddie and Mauro are two that could be gone...could stay. I think the rest of the core will remains. Gspurning, Yedlin, Hurtado, Traore, Ianni, Burch, Ozzie, Evans, Neagle, Oba, and Dempsey. I don't think those guys are going anywhere....
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  • If management is fine with the Sounders being the Arsenal of the MLS, making the playoffs but not winning anything, then Sigi will probably stay. But if they're serious about bringing championships to Seattle then they have to consider replacing him.
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  • Not saying they won't consider it. I just don't think they will do it.


    In the event they do leave, there are only two names that come to mind that I would want to coach this team.

    Brian Schmetzer and RSL's Jason Kries.
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  • Smurf wrote:Mauro will be back as a non DP, most likely. He said he wants to play two more years here, and I think he knows he wont get DP money to stay.

    Ozzie will be our next DP, you can almost count on it. Dude is good enough to warrant it. L.A. did it with Omar Gonzalez earlier this year.

    If Eddie Says then thats great. We have 3 legit goal scorers on our squad. We have a good rotation.

    If he goes, great, we can play dempsey in behind Oba and utilize more midfield oriented formations (4-3-3/4-5-1/4-2-3-1). Sure that'll mean we have to bring in another 2nd tier striker (A neagle, or Fucito type).


    Team isn't rebuilding. Not really. A few pieces of the puzzle will change, but not enough to create a new puzzle.

    There is a good chance we replace at least 4 players from our ideal 11, I'd consider that a rebuild.
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  • Ideal 11:

    --------Gspurning

    Yedlin - Traore - Hurtado - Burch

    Rosales - Alonso - Evans

    -------Dempsey----------

    ------Oba----EJ-------


    I see us losing MAYBE 2 of those players...hardly a rebuild.
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  • L.A. got absolutely robbed of a goal.
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  • That they did....and it was awesome.
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  • Tru2RedNGold25 wrote:Us as Niners fan have every right to rep Niners all day everyday when we have the hardware to back it up do can u guys say that???


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  • Smurf wrote:That they did....and it was awesome.

    Awesome? No, it wasn't. Getting a result solely because of referee error isn't awesome, it's weak. I want a team that earns their points on the field. Luckily Keane scored later to give L.A. the result they deserved.
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  • SeatownJay wrote:
    Smurf wrote:That they did....and it was awesome.

    Awesome? No, it wasn't. Getting a result solely because of referee error isn't awesome, it's weak. I want a team that earns their points on the field. Luckily Keane scored later to give L.A. the result they deserved.



    agreed...

    the losing streak may be over, but there is not confidence gained from that game, no momentum to be taken going into the playoffs.
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  • After seeing LA get call after call and benefiting from ref error I have no problem being on the other end of that.
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  • It's the way you finish....unfortunately the Sounders didn't get that memo. Because as of recent they are finishing quite horribly. This team has no chemistry, they can't score if Johnson isn't there and even if he is they can't score much, they don't play good defense, probably the most disappointing team in MLS. All the stars but still nothing to show for it. Bad effort, coaching, etc all the way around this year (thus far).

    Portland has less talent than the Sounders yet they are a much better team (at least this year). They got rid of their best player, Kenny Cooper, and they got better. Sounders keep signing and trading for these names Martins, Dempsey, Johnson, Moffatt, and then get worse. Seems like the M's curse has hit the Sounders too.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:It's the way you finish....unfortunately the Sounders didn't get that memo. Because as of recent they are finishing quite horribly. This team has no chemistry, they can't score if Johnson isn't there and even if he is they can't score much, they don't play good defense, probably the most disappointing team in MLS. All the stars but still nothing to show for it. Bad effort, coaching, etc all the way around this year (thus far).

    Portland has less talent than the Sounders yet they are a much better team (at least this year). They got rid of their best player, Kenny Cooper, and they got better. Sounders keep signing and trading for these names Martins, Dempsey, Johnson, Moffatt, and then get worse. Seems like the M's curse has hit the Sounders too.



    its coaching...

    Caleb Porter is one of the best young coaches in the United States.. hell he might be THE best.

    i would agree that the Sounders have become one of the most disappointing teams in MLS. The playoffs will be telling. If they can make a run, even to the second round, then you could suggest they just hit a rough patch at a bad time. My thought is they started the season the same way they are finishing it. There is quality there and theyve showed they can dominate the league. if they are able to pull the strings and emerge as they team from 2 months ago then anything is possible.

    at the moment they are lucky to be even in the playoffs. there are half a dozen teams who are better at the moment whose season has ended. I guess we will see...

    Smurf, can you go over the playoff matchups and format again?
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  • Uncle Si wrote:Smurf, can you go over the playoff matchups and format again?

    I'm not Smurf, but by virtue of finishing 4th in the Western Conference, Seattle will host Colorado in a play-in game on 10/30. The winner of that match will host Portland on 11/2 in the conference semifinals, then play @ Portland in the second leg of the conference semi-finals at a date to be determined later. L.A. and Real Salt Lake will face off in the other semi-final in the West.

    In the East, Houston hosts Montreal in the play-in game, with the winner getting Supporters Shield winners New York. Kansas City & New England play in the second East semi-final.

    The conference semis & finals are both home & home matchups with total goals determining the winner. The MLS Cup is a winner-take-all final hosted by the team with the higher seed.

    The MLS Cup schedule can be found here: http://www.mlssoccer.com/mlscup/2013/schedule
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  • Absolutely,

    We play Colorado on Wednesday night in a 1-off play-in game. No away game. Strait up, win and we move on. Lose and we are done. Had we have won over LA we wouldn't even be playing in this game (Bye), and a draw secured us homefield for this match.

    In the east Houston will be playing Montreal in Houston. Like us, Montreal was hot in the middle of the year and fell into the playoff's much like we did.

    Both of the play-in games will be shown Nationally on NBCSN as well as on local and regional channels (Kong and Root for Sounder fans)

    The winner of Colorado/Seattle will play Portland.

    The winner of Houston/Montreal will play New York.


    The Conference Semi-Finals (aka MLS Cup Quarter Finals, or the last 8) are next. Higher seed, gets home field (means they host second game). Total Aggregate scoring. No Away goals. Don't even think about it. Its strait up Aggregate and the winner moves on. If the teams are tied after both legs, the 2nd game will go into extra time, and then Penalties.

    Portland vs Seattle/Colorado - First leg of this game will be played on Saturday at 7:30pm (At the Clink if Sounders win) -Will air on NBCSN
    LA vs RSL - First leg played in Salt Lake, game on Sunday at 6pm - Will air on ESPN

    New York vs Houston/Montreal - First leg played on Sunday at 12:30pm. Will air on on NBC
    Sporting KC vs New England - First leg played in KC on Saturday at 5pm. - Will air on NBCSN



    Portland holds the high seed in the west.
    New York in the east, and overall.

    MLS Cup will be played at higher seeds home ground.

    Seeds:
    1. New York
    2. Sporting KC
    3. Portland
    4. RSL
    5. LA
    6. Seattle
    7. New England
    8. Houston
    9. Colorado
    10. Montreal.


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  • injuries and call ups are why Seattle isn't playing well as a team, not the coaching or the transfers.

    This one of the few sports where chemistry is everything, how do you develop chemistry when you've started different line ups every game but one?
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  • knownone wrote:injuries and call ups are why Seattle isn't playing well as a team, not the coaching or the transfers.

    This one of the few sports where chemistry is everything, how do you develop chemistry when you've started different line ups every game but one?



    sure....
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