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They'll soon be owning 7% of the Seattle SuperSonics, good investment.


Not so fast, a minority owner has filed to match.

And sac, don't say that booboo :(

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They'll soon be owning 7% of the Seattle SuperSonics, good investment.


Not so fast, a minority owner has filed to match.

And sac, don't say that booboo :(


Don't give me that, Throw. You know this whole situation is playing with my emotions.

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I tried to look that up and see if it's true and I have yet to find any info that confirms that idea. Where did you see that?

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It's worth noting that everything KJ and Sac ends up doing is a reaction to what the Seattle group has done.

That's why they are behind.

We have businessmen working our deal, they have grandstanding politicians. Have faith.

Do you really think the NBA wants to make less money by staying in Sacramento? A declining TV market with even worse economic indicators? To pass up Seattle, one of the fastest growing cities in the country? These guys didn't get rich by making decisions that line up with greeting card sentimentality.

Seattle is not losing to two podunk, small-time towns and not coming away with an NBA team. This is a world class city.


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Wouldn't it just be totally seattle if we got screwed again though?

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Wouldn't it just be totally seattle if we got screwed again though?

No. We're not a loser city. We've been a small city going through the growing pains of becoming a major market, dealt with losing sports franchises at times, and adopted a loser mentality, but we need to get over it. Look at Sacramento, a near bankrupt town who argues that the fact that no other professional sports league wants anything to do with them is a great argument for why the NBA should want to be there, that's a loser argument. Seattle is at a point where any professional sports league that spurns it does so at its own expense. It's a bad business move, because this city has money, maybe too much of it, and we love to spend it on sports. Let's get over the whole passive aggressive cautiously pessimistic BS. We're better than that. The NBA won't reject Seattle. Perhaps the NBA likes the idea of Sacramento betting the last of its assets on basketball and has no concern for the fact that a city that's near bankruptcy is looking to go all in on an arena being their savior (cause there's any evidence to support THAT kind of move). If that's the case, then the NBA will expand, but they're doing so just to keep a team in Sac. Would you expand to Sacramento if there weren't a team there? No other pro-sports league would, the A's ownership laughed at the idea of moving to Sac.

To money or not to money? That is the NBA's question.

Sacramento is a "top 20 market" only in the number of TV households. They suck where it counts: unemployment, retail spending per capita, median income, etc. And they aren't growing, they continue to lose more and more spending power. Seattle is the opposite. Will it ever be LA or NYC? Probably not, but we're moving on up. If the NBA wants to make money, they don't pass on Seattle. If they want to stay with Sac for sentimental reasons, so be it, but that decision would not be a business maneuver, because they lose money by doing so. Sacramento is a charity case for the NBA and is only in this game because they are transferring the last of their public assets to private investors (who would otherwise never consider putting money into that city).


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Sounds like Hansen has brought the whole clique with him this morning, he's got McGinn, & Constantine already, now add Ballmer, and the Nordstroms, our boys rolled up deep and bank accounts flaunting.

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Sooooooo, you want Mac Sauce on your mcdouble before a Sonics game?


Hell yes i want mac sauce!

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Sooooooo, you want Mac Sauce on your mcdouble before a Sonics game?


Hell yes i want mac sauce!


I gotchu! lol

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So what kind of decision can we expect today? Do the owners/commish actually rely on these presentations or is it a formality at this point? If this is like trial and they don't already have their minds pretty much made up, I can't imagine we'll see a decision today.

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So what kind of decision can we expect today? Do the owners/commish actually rely on these presentations or is it a formality at this point? If this is like trial and they don't already have their minds pretty much made up, I can't imagine we'll see a decision today.


No, no decision, but for some stupid ass reason I am damn NERVOUS!

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So what's the timeline for anything "official" to actually happen?

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So what's the timeline for anything "official" to actually happen?


The 19th is when we we officially find out.

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Sounds like Hansen has brought the whole clique with him this morning, he's got McGinn, & Constantine already, now add Ballmer, and the Nordstroms, our boys rolled up deep and bank accounts flaunting.


Maybe McSchwinn will promise to add some more bike lanes to the new arena :mrgreen:


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Sounds like Hansen has brought the whole clique with him this morning, he's got McGinn, & Constantine already, now add Ballmer, and the Nordstroms, our boys rolled up deep and bank accounts flaunting.


Maybe McSchwinn will promise to add some more bike lanes to the new arena :mrgreen:


I read that there was a bike valet, maybe it was a joke or not, i dunno.

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I will pile drive you straight to hell you filthy californian!


You shut your mouth when you're talking to me!

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Of course you want to see my boxers, OF COURSE YOU DO!


Yeah, over your head while tears of justice roll down your cheeks.

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Of course you want to see my boxers, OF COURSE YOU DO!


Yeah, over your head while tears of justice roll down your cheeks.


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Don't expect any, aside from all sides saying "WELL IT WENT WELL"

And KJ's cheesy ass stupid smile which i want to punch off his face.

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Transcript of Chris Hansen's Interview following the BOG Mtg

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/nbainseattle/2013/04/03/transcript-of-hansen-interview/


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The Sacramento press conference is a bumbling trainwreck.

"California is the most important state in the union!"
"India!"
"We left everything on the floor!"
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The Sacramento press conference is a bumbling trainwreck.

"California is the most important state in the union!"
"India!"
"We left everything on the floor!"
"Our offer is good!"


"3.0, NBA 3.0. It used to be 1.0, then came 2.0, and next 3.0."

Is Rebecca Black speaking on behalf of Sacramento? And when did she become an old Indian man?


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Sounds like the 18th may not be a final date for a decision

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Stern says decision may not be made by April 18 Board of Governors meeting. This could drag on


A slow death to the loser of this fight.

Maybe not

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Stern said that, if it does go past April 18-19 BOG meeting, it won't be "by much."


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NBA presser over. The big news may be that this may not be decided at BOG meetings.

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After listening to the Stern presser............I came away not feeling that great. I could see us being stabbed in the back by the NBA again.

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After listening to the Stern presser............I came away not feeling that great. I could see us being stabbed in the back by the NBA again.

If David Stern came out wearing a Sonics jersey you'd convince yourself that it's a bad sign because he likely won't want to limit the vintage appeal of his wardrobe selection by bringing back the team.

This was played down the middle, as expected, and from all indications the Sac group is not offering a matching bid, which is game over.


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After listening to the Stern presser............I came away not feeling that great. I could see us being stabbed in the back by the NBA again.

If David Stern came out wearing a Sonics jersey you'd convince yourself that it's a bad sign because he likely won't want to limit the vintage appeal of his wardrobe selection by bringing back the team.

This was played down the middle, as expected, and from all indications the Sac group is not offering a matching bid, which is game over.


Question to Stern: "Does Sacramento need to improve their offer?" Stern: "That is not one of the issues." - Question posed to Stern today at his presser


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You think the NBA will force a lesser offer on an owner? You think other owners will do that to themselves? You think Stern was honest and up front and that everything is being done in earnest and out in the open? It's hard to take statements he makes, especially when he's been blatantly and purposefully neutral in a press conference. We'll see, but unless Sac matches or the Maloofs are feeling charitable, the Sonics are a lock to return, and that team simply is not worth as much in Sacramento as it is in Seattle, that's a huge hurdle.


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It's also worth noting that KJ even made it a point to refer to the Sac offer as a "back up offer" that can be accepted if Seattle "doesn't pan out". So in that instance, I suppose matching wouldn't be the pressing issue. If the league denies the PSA, they figure that the Maloofs can then look at these back up offers. If that's the case, that also likely means that the Seattle PSA will be judged on its own merits and not on anything coming out of Sacramento. It's either a competing bid or its a back up bid. Seattle is in the lead still, even KJ says so.


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After listening to the Stern presser............I came away not feeling that great. I could see us being stabbed in the back by the NBA again.

If David Stern came out wearing a Sonics jersey you'd convince yourself that it's a bad sign because he likely won't want to limit the vintage appeal of his wardrobe selection by bringing back the team.

This was played down the middle, as expected, and from all indications the Sac group is not offering a matching bid, which is game over.


I only say that because I did not like that he said the decision would probably not be made till after the 18th/19th of April. Any extra time helps KJs group. Additionally, listening to 710 today Danny O'Neil and Jim Moore were saying that now this whole thing seems like it is a 50/50 toss up and any type of "tie" in terms of issues goes to Sacramento.

Heck even Kevin Calabro sounded down when he said is was 50/50 at this point and time.

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O'Neil and Moore are just guys on the radio and not citing inside sources or anything, and what ties are there?

Every economic indicator is in Seattle's favor, our building's financing is rock solid, our ownership group is considerably stronger, etc. etc.


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O'Neil and Moore are just guys on the radio and not citing inside sources or anything, and what ties are there?

Every economic indicator is in Seattle's favor, our building's financing is rock solid, our ownership group is considerably stronger, etc. etc.



The biggest thing is the location. The PNW has only Portland for a huge area after the Sonics and Grizzlies. That is a good size media market and the revenue is shared by the Owners


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Additionally Brian McCann, SI legal analyst, who has been saying that we have a very good proposal and chance to get the Kings has changed his stance and said that we are now at 50/50 like others have said. Today was supposed to make me feel better and more confident, but it has done the exact opposite. I hate being me sometimes........ :240039:

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I also look at it this way, how could the NBA take the team out of Sac-town when they have a viable ownership as well as a viable(enough) arena plan, when the Sonics left we didn't really have either of those things. If Sac-town is able to put their pieces even more together I just see them keeping the Kings even though Chris and Co. already have a purchase agreement. I know I am being a HUGE negative influence, but I just don't want to get my hopes up and than have them stomped on again by the NBA if things go against us again......heck even Throw said he was nervous about today and he has always been Mr. positive. I just wish they approved the sale and such when it was first announced.

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