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KJ was on the Dan Patrick Show today and had this to say about Seattle:

@JasonPuckettKJR: Kevin Johnson on Dan Patrick: “They weren’t getting the support (fans) they needed and they couldn’t build a building.” #Sonics #Kings

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Kevin Johnson just lost all sympathy from Seattle after that comment

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Kevin Johnson just lost all sympathy from Seattle after that comment

To the dickens with him and To the dickens with Sacramento


Your words cut deep.

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He also was asked to put a percentage to their chances of keeping the team and he said Steve Nash at the free throw line. Was he second on the hack list behind Shaq?

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He also was asked to put a percentage to their chances of keeping the team and he said Steve Nash at the free throw line. Was he second on the hack list behind Shaq?


Nash is the NBA all-time leader in career FT percentage at 90.4% for his career...................so yeah KJ believes he has a great shot of keeping the Kings. And the hits keep coming.

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GODDDDDDDDDD! If I ever see Johnson in public, Imma bowe him in the face, screw him for life.

And in light of news of stuff that Hansen might've uncovered, I hope Hansen exposes Johnson for the liar he is and disgraces him in his own city. Go to hell Johnson, you corny son of a hippo!

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http://mynorthwest.com/27/2238828/Mayor ... keep-Kings

Heres a article detailing what he said when he appeared on the DP Show.

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Seattle has said we weren't going to use fan support as a tool, but if KJ's out here launching this ground attack, should we talk about the last few years? and no the excuse of the Maloofs isn't good enough to explain it either. Especially if our excuse for Bennett in the final season here doesn't hold water to Clown Shoes Johnson.

Dude just made this fight personal 5 days before the committee meetings on this issue.

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Seattle has said we weren't going to use fan support as a tool, but if KJ's out here launching this ground attack, should we talk about the last few years? and no the excuse of the Maloofs isn't good enough to explain it either. Especially if our excuse for Bennett in the final season here doesn't hold water to Clown Shoes Johnson.

Dude just made this fight personal 5 days before the committee meetings on this issue.


He didn't mean it, Throw. No need to get riled up.

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Seattle has said we weren't going to use fan support as a tool, but if KJ's out here launching this ground attack, should we talk about the last few years? and no the excuse of the Maloofs isn't good enough to explain it either. Especially if our excuse for Bennett in the final season here doesn't hold water to Clown Shoes Johnson.

Dude just made this fight personal 5 days before the committee meetings on this issue.


He didn't mean it, Throw. No need to get riled up.


YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND GO TO HELL, SACROMENTIAN!

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Regarding Chris Hansen bidding for the extra 7% share - wow. He is such a boss. He really has his stuff together.


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Seattle has said we weren't going to use fan support as a tool, but if KJ's out here launching this ground attack, should we talk about the last few years? and no the excuse of the Maloofs isn't good enough to explain it either. Especially if our excuse for Bennett in the final season here doesn't hold water to Clown Shoes Johnson.

Dude just made this fight personal 5 days before the committee meetings on this issue.


He didn't mean it, Throw. No need to get riled up.


He knows what he said, and he declared war on the innocents in all this, the fans. I don't expect Hansen to stoop to that level, but I wouldn't blame him if he did.

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Seattle has said we weren't going to use fan support as a tool, but if KJ's out here launching this ground attack, should we talk about the last few years? and no the excuse of the Maloofs isn't good enough to explain it either. Especially if our excuse for Bennett in the final season here doesn't hold water to Clown Shoes Johnson.

Dude just made this fight personal 5 days before the committee meetings on this issue.


He didn't mean it, Throw. No need to get riled up.


YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND GO TO HELL, SACROMENTIAN!


I'm sensing some hostility here. Can't we all just get along?

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What's wrong with calling Kevin Johnson what his OWN Suns teammates called him (and Colabro on air), Desert Princess? He was a whiny lil point guard...REALLY whiny.


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KJ saying they have 90% odds should translate to 10% odds in normal speak.


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If KJ's takeaway from Seattle's fiasco was that the team left because of fan support, we're golden. I don't believe that is his takeaway at all, but if it were true it would mean he has no idea what is important to the NBA and that would sink his chances of keeping the Kings.

Johnson's campaign has been run mostly on an emotional level. It probably sounds good to the Sacramento fans he works for, but the NBA isn't going to make this ruling based on such niceties. Owners will vote for a combination of:
1.) Do I want to restrict my ability to sell to whatever solvent backer I choose?
2.) Which move will add more value to my team?
3.) Which owner do I like more? (probably only likely if prior relationship with the owner)
4.) Do I want to give Seattle the middle finger or take the bulls eye sign off my back? (Clay Bennett only, though if any other NBA owner has a relationship with Sacramento that reverse could be in play)

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And which team will bring in more money? Seattle, unquestionably. Sac might be the 20th tv market based on tv households, but it ranks lower when you factor in economics like retail spending per capita, median income, unemployment, etc. etc. Not to even Seattle is going to get a huge TV deal that Sac couldn't dream of. The owners have to vote against economic interests in favor of some idea of fairness or sentimentality. Maybe they do, but I just haven't seen anything to suggest that's the direction they'll take. Maybe Sacramento, with its new ownership, stops being a revenue sharing beneficiary, but it's not going to be the wealthy luxury tax paying team that Hansen and Ballmer will look to field in Seattle. The NBA would unquestionably be losing money, at least in terms of what it could make, if they decide to forgo Seattle to keep a team in a market like Sacramento. Yeah they've got good attendance history, but that's not where the real money is, not anymore.


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I wish there was a way to show my appreciation to Chris Hansen for what he is doing for Seattle. Whatever happens, the guy is doing everything possible and making every right move he can to make this happen. The guy is my hero.


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I wish there was a way to show my appreciation to Chris Hansen for what he is doing for Seattle. Whatever happens, the guy is doing everything possible and making every right move he can to make this happen. The guy is my hero.


Petition for a "Thank you Chris" day? lol

But I think he's doing this because he's a fan as well. So I think the reward for him is having the NBA back in his hometown, and owning them like he's always wanted, he's almost a super fan! I read somewhere that Hansen would write letters to Schultz back in the day, telling him that one day he was going to own the Sonics after him. He's from Seattle, a Seahawks fan, Mariners fan, Sonics fan, torn Huskies fan because he went to SDSU so he's also an Aztec alum. I sound stalkerish.

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I wish there was a way to show my appreciation to Chris Hansen for what he is doing for Seattle. Whatever happens, the guy is doing everything possible and making every right move he can to make this happen. The guy is my hero.


Petition for a "Thank you Chris" day? lol


No need for a petition. You're welcome.

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I wish there was a way to show my appreciation to Chris Hansen for what he is doing for Seattle. Whatever happens, the guy is doing everything possible and making every right move he can to make this happen. The guy is my hero.


Petition for a "Thank you Chris" day? lol


No need for a petition. You're welcome.


What? lol

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I'm guessing our boy Sac's name is Chris lol

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I wish there was a way to show my appreciation to Chris Hansen for what he is doing for Seattle. Whatever happens, the guy is doing everything possible and making every right move he can to make this happen. The guy is my hero.


There is a way to show your appreciation. Buy some Sonics tickets :) P.S. If you are interested in tickets, did you sign up for the priority ticket wait list? If not, it's non-binding and you can do so here: http://www.sonicsarena.com/


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I'm guessing our boy Sac's name is Chris lol


You, sir, are very astute.

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You, sir, are very astute.


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I'm guessing our boy Sac's name is Chris lol


oh............... :shock:
"Woosh" (the Sound of the joke going over my head lol)

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So it's actually looking like that timeframe for existing minority owners to "match" Hanesn's offer may have passed and be officially over tomorrow. At least that's the reading from Michael McCann on Twitter. The existing owners don't have Right of First Refusal, which means any offer made to buy the team or a part of the team must be brought to them and allowed to match. They instead have Right of First Opportunity, which means that when the team or part of the team goes up for sale, they are told and offered a chance to buy. Now also keep in mind that Chris was pre-approved as a bidder for this 7% by the NBA, the only person to have gone through that process. There's also the wrinkle that this stake is held in bankruptcy court and the sale will be approved by a judge. Do you think the NBA is going to reject Chris buying the 7% after approving him as a bidder and then telling a bankruptcy judge that the deal he approved is garbage and to start this process over? Doubt it. Tomorrow could be very interesting, and something tells me if Chris gets the 7% it's a strong indication of where this is headed.


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I wish there was a way to show my appreciation to Chris Hansen for what he is doing for Seattle. Whatever happens, the guy is doing everything possible and making every right move he can to make this happen. The guy is my hero.


Petition for a "Thank you Chris" day? lol

But I think he's doing this because he's a fan as well. So I think the reward for him is having the NBA back in his hometown, and owning them like he's always wanted, he's almost a super fan! I read somewhere that Hansen would write letters to Schultz back in the day, telling him that one day he was going to own the Sonics after him. He's from Seattle, a Seahawks fan, Mariners fan, Sonics fan, torn Huskies fan because he went to SDSU so he's also an Aztec alum. I sound stalkerish.


:shock: CREEPY :P

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Hansen is like 44, Schultz bought the team in what 2001? Wouldn't that mean Chris was writing the guy about his big dream to someday own the Sonics in his early 30s? lol


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pinksheets, sorry, what is happening tomorrow that makes it a big day? So many dates, I'm losing track.

Edit: Oh never mind, tomorrow is the end of the time frame for minority owners to match the offer?


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That's what it looks like. The trustee is supposedly submitting a motion to make the sale to Hansen official.


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So tomorrow... After Hansen becomes an official minority owner of the Kings, that barrage of ignorance from Johnson gets snuffed by Hansen's power move?

And like Pink said, If the NBA okay'd him to bid on that 7%, they're going to approve him and that should give us all a nice breath of fresh air of where the NBA is leaning.

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And even if Chris's PSA with the Maloofs was voted down, he'd still likely be granted minority ownership, which comes with Right of First Opportunity, before a sale to the Sacramento group was submitted and finalized. Hansen would have minority owner rights to have first dibs on buying the team at that point. Let's see what goes down tomorrow.


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And even if Chris's PSA with the Maloofs was voted down, he'd still likely be granted minority ownership, which comes with Right of First Opportunity, before a sale to the Sacramento group was submitted and finalized. Hansen would have minority owner rights to have first dibs on buying the team at that point. Let's see what goes down tomorrow.


Man I really hope thats the case, but I just have a gut feeling that Sac-Town is gonna manage to come in and get the 7% at the last minute.

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And even if Chris's PSA with the Maloofs was voted down, he'd still likely be granted minority ownership, which comes with Right of First Opportunity, before a sale to the Sacramento group was submitted and finalized. Hansen would have minority owner rights to have first dibs on buying the team at that point. Let's see what goes down tomorrow.


Man I really hope thats the case, but I just have a gut feeling that Sac-Town is gonna manage to come in and get the 7% at the last minute.


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So if the Sonics do come back, does this mean that Franklin HS grad and Seattle native Silva won't be welcome on the team? :D

Oregon coach Dana Altman said he’s seen the type of speed and quickness that U of L has in its press before, but it’s 11 guys and they’re on the Ducks football team.

“It’s almost the same situation that our football team runs into when teams are trying to get ready for them,” Altman said. “They play so much faster and their team speed is different I don’t think teams can really get ready for our football team.”

Ironically Peyton Siva appreciated the comparison. Siva said he watched Oregon football “all the time” and he “cheered for them this whole year.”

“I love their style of play, they like to get out they like to run,” Siva said. “I love Oregon football – plus their jerseys are just the best in college, so why not root for them?"

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More arena renderings released by Hansen.

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Those arena renderings are amazing!

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If KJ's takeaway from Seattle's fiasco was that the team left because of fan support, we're golden. I don't believe that is his takeaway at all, but if it were true it would mean he has no idea what is important to the NBA and that would sink his chances of keeping the Kings.

Johnson's campaign has been run mostly on an emotional level. It probably sounds good to the Sacramento fans he works for, but the NBA isn't going to make this ruling based on such niceties. Owners will vote for a combination of:
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4.) Do I want to give Seattle the middle finger or take the bulls eye sign off my back? (Clay Bennett only, though if any other NBA owner has a relationship with Sacramento that reverse could be in play)

KJ said the local $ was making an "aggressive bid" on the Kings, when they were 100 million below Hanson's bid - KJ lost all credibility at that point. KJ is a politician. He lies. Don't worry about what KJ says - you might as well listen to some wetbrain drunk on the street.

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And which team will bring in more money? Seattle, unquestionably. Sac might be the 20th tv market based on tv households, but it ranks lower when you factor in economics like retail spending per capita, median income, unemployment, etc. etc. Not to even Seattle is going to get a huge TV deal that Sac couldn't dream of. The owners have to vote against economic interests in favor of some idea of fairness or sentimentality. Maybe they do, but I just haven't seen anything to suggest that's the direction they'll take. Maybe Sacramento, with its new ownership, stops being a revenue sharing beneficiary, but it's not going to be the wealthy luxury tax paying team that Hansen and Ballmer will look to field in Seattle. The NBA would unquestionably be losing money, at least in terms of what it could make, if they decide to forgo Seattle to keep a team in a market like Sacramento. Yeah they've got good attendance history, but that's not where the real money is, not anymore.

What a great post, pink. For those and other reasons, the fact of the matter is that if the Kings turn into the Sonics, all the teams in the NBA will increase in value by %30. This is hundreds of millions of $ the owners will be voting themselves when they vote to approve the Hanson sale.

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I wish there was a way to show my appreciation to Chris Hansen for what he is doing for Seattle. Whatever happens, the guy is doing everything possible and making every right move he can to make this happen. The guy is my hero.

Chris Hanson will never have to buy another drink in Seattle for the rest of his life.

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Any updates on the 7% purchase?

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Looks like Sactown messed up on their bid for the 7%

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Is Horace Grant a Judge now, I see rejection coming.

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Sacramento missed A deadline, but still have another two weeks to submit a bid for the 7%. If it comes in significantly higher (like $20 million cash) then Hansen will lose.

It's risky though because whoever buys it will just be praying the team stays or they're going to own an extra 7% of a team that's in Seattle. All in all it's not that significant other than publicity.


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Sacramento missed A deadline, but still have another two weeks to submit a bid for the 7%. If it comes in significantly higher (like $20 million cash) then Hansen will lose.

It's risky though because whoever buys it will just be praying the team stays or they're going to own an extra 7% of a team that's in Seattle. All in all it's not that significant other than publicity.


They have 2 weeks but they got exactly a week til they present their case, its not looking too tough on their end all of a sudden. Plus this "Dream Team" of investors they have hasn't even submitted an alternative offer to the NBA.

So, when is the next low blow from KJ coming? he's all of a sudden losing the PR battle he started.

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I am now thoroughly confused by this whole 7% deal thing.......

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I saw a tweet earlier that said the deadline was April 1st. Better not be a joke.


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