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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:06 am
  • Renohawk wrote:Didn't the Sonics last GM come from San Antonio, Sam Presti? He was young, not many heard of him and does an outstanding job.


    He's drafted 3 stars in his time as a GM, one was a gimmie with Durant, but Westbrook, and Harden? Not to mention drafting Ibaka, dudes a beast when it comes to the draft.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:41 am
  • What was wrong with Bird? The current Pacers squad is all Bird players.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:47 am
  • Image

    Rumbles down with the cause, can't imagine that makes Clay Bennett happy.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:57 am
  • Squatch has a twitter?

    @SonicsSquatch
    Squatch happy. Go back to dunking & shooting shirts out of air gun rather than working as bikini barista. When Squatch start? #seattle
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:26 am
  • Finally some good news for a crappy weekend and a crappy superbowl.

    I will believe it when i see it. I am convinced that every ninny in this town is going to sue to stop this.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:30 am
  • I hope they start a clean slate with the team. Isiah Thomas is bad. Don't know why he's starting. And jimmer fredette is Adam Morrison 2.0
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:03 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:i'd love to have RC Buford, or anyone from that Spurs franchise.


    Agreed! Give me some RC!
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:04 pm
  • So, I was playing with the trade machine, and I came up with this:

    Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, and Francisco Garcia go to Memphis

    Rudy g** gets shipped to the Kings/Sonics

    MAKE IT HAPPEN, LETS GOOOO!

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:16 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:So, I was playing with the trade machine, and I came up with this:

    Marcus Thornton, Jimmer Fredette, and Francisco Garcia go to Memphis

    Rudy g** gets shipped to the Kings/Sonics

    MAKE IT HAPPEN, LETS GOOOO!

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine


    I would love this move!
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:21 pm
  • Im amazed at the amount of people that will forgive the NBA for what happened here. I was a season ticket holder for many years and have seen more NBA games than any other sport by a mile. What happened was criminal. The NBA is a joke and has been in decline since the early 90's. Gone are all the great personalites, replaced by a bunch of classless punks.

    No thanks. I have not watched a single NBA game since the Supes left and I never will. I will vote with my wallet. The NBA has to be accountable at some point.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:24 pm
  • Chukarhawk wrote:Im amazed at the amount of people that will forgive the NBA for what happened here. I was a season ticket holder for many years and have seen more NBA games than any other sport by a mile. What happened was criminal. The NBA is a joke and has been in decline since the early 90's. Gone are all the great personalites, replaced by a bunch of classless punks.

    No thanks. I have not watched a single NBA game since the Supes left and I never will. I will vote with my wallet. The NBA has to be accountable at some point.


    Good, then don't go.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:26 pm
  • Chukarhawk wrote:Im amazed at the amount of people that will forgive the NBA for what happened here. I was a season ticket holder for many years and have seen more NBA games than any other sport by a mile. What happened was criminal. The NBA is a joke and has been in decline since the early 90's. Gone are all the great personalites, replaced by a bunch of classless punks.

    No thanks. I have not watched a single NBA game since the Supes left and I never will. I will vote with my wallet. The NBA has to be accountable at some point.


    If you havnt watched how do you know its so horrible? I think the NBA is as good and entertaning right now as its been since the prime of Jordan, Pippen, Barkley, etc, etc. Of course there are a few punks but most of the stars are really good, marketable dudes.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:31 pm
  • NBA is fun, last season was the most fun I've had watching since the sonics left.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:45 pm
  • The draft this year doesn't have a marquee name, some good players but no one to get wet over. Next year if this Wiggins kid declares, that's the year to tank.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:53 pm
  • Chukarhawk wrote:Im amazed at the amount of people that will forgive the NBA for what happened here. I was a season ticket holder for many years and have seen more NBA games than any other sport by a mile. What happened was criminal. The NBA is a joke and has been in decline since the early 90's. Gone are all the great personalites, replaced by a bunch of classless punks.

    No thanks. I have not watched a single NBA game since the Supes left and I never will. I will vote with my wallet. The NBA has to be accountable at some point.

    I'll happily enjoy the new Super Sonics and not feel guilty one bit.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:01 pm
  • DeMarcus Cousins is averaging 17 and 10 boards - third for centers. He's a piece to build around.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:02 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:The draft this year doesn't have a marquee name, some good players but no one to get wet over. Next year if this Wiggins kid declares, that's the year to tank.


    A few weeks ago I would have said Shabazz Mohammad from UCLA because i've been hearing hype about him for a few years. Watched him for the first time the other day though and was not impressed. Looked like an average player who makes a lot of bad decisions.

    Here's a 2013 NBa mock draft with just the players slotted in order to give an idea of the prospects.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:00 pm
  • Congrats, Sonics fans, now do your due diligence and actually attend the games, even when the team sucks.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:45 pm
  • SmokinHawk wrote:Congrats, Sonics fans, now do your due diligence and actually attend the games, even when the team sucks.




    The people of Seattle did show up to games until it was gutted and ran into the ground for the purpose of eventually moving it. its complete $h!t to say we didn't support our team. :evil:
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:47 pm
  • SmokinHawk wrote:Congrats, Sonics fans, now do your due diligence and actually attend the games, even when the team sucks.


    You do realize that even in their last 2 years, the Sonics averaged around 16,000-15,000 fans per night. And this is in an arena that only seats about 17,000.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:35 pm
  • The Kings might just tank on their own - what reason do they have to play hard when they know the current regiem is probably history and the team is moving. Lottery, here we come! :)
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:41 pm
  • Spounge84 wrote:
    SmokinHawk wrote:Congrats, Sonics fans, now do your due diligence and actually attend the games, even when the team sucks.


    You do realize that even in their last 2 years, the Sonics averaged around 16,000-15,000 fans per night. And this is in an arena that only seats about 17,000.


    Why didn't any of them show up to the games, then? There were many occasions when Key Arena was anything other than packed.

    Anyhow, I'm not trying to kill anyone's joy here. A lot of people are happy about the return of the basketball team, and I am happy for them.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:44 pm
  • The Kings have the ninth worst record. Aren't the lottery teams the ones who don't make the playoffs? I can't remember how the NBA works. Maybe we can get Stern to put the fix in and hook us up with a high pick guard to go along with Cousins.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:56 pm
  • Love it when people speak on s...t they know nothing of.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:06 pm
  • SmokinHawk wrote:
    Spounge84 wrote:
    SmokinHawk wrote:Congrats, Sonics fans, now do your due diligence and actually attend the games, even when the team sucks.


    You do realize that even in their last 2 years, the Sonics averaged around 16,000-15,000 fans per night. And this is in an arena that only seats about 17,000.


    Why didn't any of them show up to the games, then? There were many occasions when Key Arena was anything other than packed.

    Anyhow, I'm not trying to kill anyone's joy here. A lot of people are happy about the return of the basketball team, and I am happy for them.


    Not REALLY. Attendence was never an issue. In terms of loyalty, the Sonics we're the heartiest fans in Seattle. Being contenders in 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000's will do that.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:11 pm
  • Looking at the positives, it took Clay Bennett to get rid of Wally Walker, hopefully we don't get a new GM that is threatened by coaches that know more then he does.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:15 pm
  • Oh, didn't you hear? Wally Walker is special buddies with the Hanson group. He's getting a pct and Team President title.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:18 pm
  • All I can see is McElvaine now.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:26 pm
  • If we're lucky. :(
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:27 pm
  • On an unimportant note, I'd like to know how to start a meaningful petition for Chris Hansen to bring back the "Super" to the "SuperSonics". I hated it when they declared they would now be known as the "Sonics". Sonics doesn't really mean anything. Now, SuperSonics means flying at faster than the speed of sound. WAY cooler! Don't know why they did that. And, of course, I really missed the SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUperSONICS! in the intro's... :D

    I'm just so happy for my city to get the NBA back. Like I've said before, I was never the biggest NBA fan, pretty fair-weather, but I wanted it badly for our city pride. I'll get really excited when we start hearing news of an NHL team coming here. Pro-Hockey was always a sport that I felt was missing a fan.... ME! Once I hear news of the NHL coming, I'll scour the rule books to learn that sport inside and out! I loves me some violence in my sports, and Hockey is a sport I'm willing to jump into big-time! But of course, when the SuperSonics make the playoffs, I'll be there in all my Band-Wagon glory! :lol:
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:33 pm
  • BlueThunder wrote:On an unimportant note, I'd like to know how to start a meaningful petition for Chris Hansen to bring back the "Super" to the "SuperSonics". I hated it when they declared they would now be known as the "Sonics". Sonics doesn't really mean anything. Now, SuperSonics means flying at faster than the speed of sound. WAY cooler! Don't know why they did that. And, of course, I really missed the SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUperSONICS! in the intro's... :D

    I'm just so happy for my city to get the NBA back. Like I've said before, I was never the biggest NBA fan, pretty fair-weather, but I wanted it badly for our city pride. I'll get really excited when we start hearing news of an NHL team coming here. Pro-Hockey was always a sport that I felt was missing a fan.... ME! Once I hear news of the NHL coming, I'll scour the rule books to learn that sport inside and out! I loves me some violence in my sports, and Hockey is a sport I'm willing to jump into big-time! But of course, when the SuperSonics make the playoffs, I'll be there in all my Band-Wagon glory! :lol:


    I agree, SuperSonics is 100x better of a name. It makes me think of Boeing and the futuristic past of Seattle - the space needle, the bubbleator, etc.

    It's a shame that when I go to the Seattle Times and read the comments, 75% of the commenters seem to oppose the new team. I personally couldn't be happier with all that Hansen, Ballmer, etc have done to bring back our beloved Sonics.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:22 am
  • The Outfield wrote:
    BlueThunder wrote:On an unimportant note, I'd like to know how to start a meaningful petition for Chris Hansen to bring back the "Super" to the "SuperSonics". I hated it when they declared they would now be known as the "Sonics". Sonics doesn't really mean anything. Now, SuperSonics means flying at faster than the speed of sound. WAY cooler! Don't know why they did that. And, of course, I really missed the SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUperSONICS! in the intro's... :D

    I'm just so happy for my city to get the NBA back. Like I've said before, I was never the biggest NBA fan, pretty fair-weather, but I wanted it badly for our city pride. I'll get really excited when we start hearing news of an NHL team coming here. Pro-Hockey was always a sport that I felt was missing a fan.... ME! Once I hear news of the NHL coming, I'll scour the rule books to learn that sport inside and out! I loves me some violence in my sports, and Hockey is a sport I'm willing to jump into big-time! But of course, when the SuperSonics make the playoffs, I'll be there in all my Band-Wagon glory! :lol:


    I agree, SuperSonics is 100x better of a name.


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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:53 am
  • twisted_steel2 wrote:
    The Outfield wrote:
    BlueThunder wrote:On an unimportant note, I'd like to know how to start a meaningful petition for Chris Hansen to bring back the "Super" to the "SuperSonics". I hated it when they declared they would now be known as the "Sonics". Sonics doesn't really mean anything. Now, SuperSonics means flying at faster than the speed of sound. WAY cooler! Don't know why they did that. And, of course, I really missed the SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUperSONICS! in the intro's... :D

    I'm just so happy for my city to get the NBA back. Like I've said before, I was never the biggest NBA fan, pretty fair-weather, but I wanted it badly for our city pride. I'll get really excited when we start hearing news of an NHL team coming here. Pro-Hockey was always a sport that I felt was missing a fan.... ME! Once I hear news of the NHL coming, I'll scour the rule books to learn that sport inside and out! I loves me some violence in my sports, and Hockey is a sport I'm willing to jump into big-time! But of course, when the SuperSonics make the playoffs, I'll be there in all my Band-Wagon glory! :lol:


    I agree, SuperSonics is 100x better of a name.


    :th2thumbs:


    Im kinda ignorant on the subject, but I thought we were always officially the SuperSonics, but we would be referred to as sonics as a shortened nickname, kinda like the hawks from seahawks and bucs from bucaneers. No?
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:54 am
  • Can I ask why people wouldn't want Bird as GM?

    To me, it appears he did very well in small-market Indiana. It's not a landing place for free agents, so Bird was forced to build that team through the draft. He also had to keep things fiscally responsible. He also tends to build in an old-school, 1980's, Kersey vs X-Man type of team.

    In Seattle Bird can build that type of tough team, and be a player in free agency. Sounds like a good formula to me.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:01 am
  • Mike Dunleavy Jr. & Troy Murphy are why to me.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:11 am
  • Throwdown wrote:Mike Dunleavy Jr. & Troy Murphy are why to me.


    I cant remember if he drafted Murphy or not. If he did, weren't each taken about the spot other GM's would?

    I swear last year you, peaches and I we're singing the praises of that Pacers squad. It was during the series that Bird came out and told his team to man-up and punch the Heat on the mouth.

    I respect your view, but IMO, other factors have to be weighed when evaluating his tenure in Indiana. The same way s you cant necessarily use W's and L's to evaluate Raider HC's.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:21 am
  • I thought Bird got fired last season? I might be wrong, they got their act together finally.

    Trading for Granger was a good move, but it took 6-7 years for Bird to put a team around him, drafting George Paul was smart and getting George Hill was smart, I don't know if matching what the Blazers offered Hibbert was really exactly smart, he looks like hes regressed a bit.

    Most underrated move in the NBA IMO was getting David West, the team got a constant double-double veteran to go along side Granger and Paul.

    But honestly I wouldn't want Phil Jackson either, 'specially if it came down between Bird, Jackson, & RC Buford, I'll take Buford with the quickness, the Spurs model should be replicated more often IMO.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:25 am
  • Bird retired last year from that job. That team is his build.

    As long as Hibbert's there they're a contender in the East.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:31 am
  • Oh hell we was all wrong!

    Bird was only the President of Basketball operations! Not even the GM! So he wasn't the one who traded Stephen Jackson & Al Harrington for those scrubs Murphy & Dunleavy, that was Walsh! Jeeeeez that was a total Rick Sund/Wally Walker move if I ever seen one.

    More-so in 2008, he got his own man and then built what they have now (he also has Pete Carroll type of power with having the final say in all moves), I was all wrong on this!

    I'd still want Buford though lol.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:44 am
  • I like Buford as well. He's the John Schneider of the NBA.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:47 am
  • So when do we know for sure it's a done deal?
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:50 am
  • pehawk wrote:I like Buford as well. He's the John Schneider of the NBA.


    So is Mr. Presti... Maybe Hansen can open up that pocket book a liiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit more to steal away the brain of the Thunder?
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:59 am
  • Throwdown wrote:
    pehawk wrote:I like Buford as well. He's the John Schneider of the NBA.


    So is Mr. Presti... Maybe Hansen can open up that pocket book a liiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit more to steal away the brain of the Thunder?


    Buford's better than Presti, IMO. Durant and Westbrook give Presti alot of room for error.

    Buford pulls All-Pro's from late 20 picks.

    Cousins went for 23 and 13 last night, I believe. Isiah dropped in 20.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:04 pm
  • pehawk wrote:
    Throwdown wrote:
    pehawk wrote:I like Buford as well. He's the John Schneider of the NBA.


    So is Mr. Presti... Maybe Hansen can open up that pocket book a liiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit more to steal away the brain of the Thunder?


    Buford's better than Presti, IMO. Durant and Westbrook give Presti alot of room for error.

    Buford pulls All-Pro's from late 20 picks.

    Cousins went for 23 and 13 last night, I believe. Isiah dropped in 20.


    No one saw Westbrook going that early though, and no one thought he was that good though. Westbrook didn't even start at UCLA and was only there one season, and don't forget Ibaka, probably the only guy on the Thunder I have some weird love for.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:13 pm
  • I'm familiar with Westbrook. That was a ballsy pick at 4.

    We'll just sign Duratula when he hits the market.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:07 pm
  • BlueThunder wrote:On an unimportant note, I'd like to know how to start a meaningful petition for Chris Hansen to bring back the "Super" to the "SuperSonics". I hated it when they declared they would now be known as the "Sonics". Sonics doesn't really mean anything. Now, SuperSonics means flying at faster than the speed of sound. WAY cooler! Don't know why they did that. And, of course, I really missed the SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUperSONICS! in the intro's... :D

    I'm just so happy for my city to get the NBA back. Like I've said before, I was never the biggest NBA fan, pretty fair-weather, but I wanted it badly for our city pride. I'll get really excited when we start hearing news of an NHL team coming here. Pro-Hockey was always a sport that I felt was missing a fan.... ME! Once I hear news of the NHL coming, I'll scour the rule books to learn that sport inside and out! I loves me some violence in my sports, and Hockey is a sport I'm willing to jump into big-time! But of course, when the SuperSonics make the playoffs, I'll be there in all my Band-Wagon glory! :lol:


    I'm feelin you on the old name. Even though "Sonics" is prettty cool in it's own right, I always prefered the old jet-city psychedelic long form.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:37 pm
  • So KJ has nothing.

    His big announcement was that 19 local investors have pledged $1 million as a part of an ownership group.

    And they hope to announce a "whale" soon. Meaning they don't have one.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:49 pm
  • pinksheets wrote:So KJ has nothing.

    His big announcement was that 19 local investors have pledged $1 million as a part of an ownership group.

    And they hope to announce a "whale" soon. Meaning they don't have one.


    Does Kevin "Desert Princess" Johnson have a ref to whine too still? Hated him as a player.
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