CPHawk wrote:I understand the hate for Stern, he's a king douche bag, but why no hate for your own civic leaders in Olympia and Seattle who pretty much kicked Stern in the ass? You have to ask yourself, if only our local guys would have just shown they would try would the Sonics be gone? Right now I would bet good money Stern wouldn't have let the Sonics move had they just tried a little bit, hell the Sac group has an agreement for a new Arena that is as stable as RGIII ACL, and we offered at least double what the Kings are worth, and they aren't moving.
Oh, there's plenty of hate for the local and state guys that were involved, but Let's not even pretend the situations were similar.
The Kings' struggles, the Maloofs' attempts to move, the need for a new arena and the inability of both sides to work out an arena plan have been out in the open for YEARS.
With the Sonics, 95% of the people never even knew there were issues until the sale to Bennett was announced out of the blue. (In fact, most of the team employees and minority owners didn't even find out until the actual press conference). The NBA's attitude that Seattle had built for the 'Hawks & M's and then shafted the Sonics was BS - the fact was the Sonics got their new building FIRST. Key Arena was only 10 old, the Sonics still had a long-term lease and there was still $40-$50M left for the team to pay off for construction. The NBA & Stern had praised the building as a model facility for other teams to follow.
Now, I'm not claiming Key Arena was perfect - it had legitimate problems (and the whole story of how the Key was a compromise b/c Ackerly couldn't build his planned 20K seat arena in SoDo adds an extra-depressing element to it). But the majority of The Key's issues were the NBA's own fault. They got their asses handed to them in the CBA/player lockout of the early 00's and suddenly their expenses sky-rocketed. Schultz never showed his books to prove he was losing $$ ... his Chief complaint seemed to be he wasn't making as much $ as everyone else.
Schultz & Stern went to Olympia ONCE. They walked into a climate where Boeing was threatening to leave the area, there was a massive battle going on about transit funding and replacing the viaduct, the State was in a Budget crisis and the national economy was starting to tank. They went in dicks-swinging and expected to cut to the front of the line. They also started off demanding the moon. Schultz never committed to front any of his own money, they wanted access to the taxes that had been specifically passed just for Qwest Field, and they wanted massive debt forgiveness.
And Olympia never told them "NO" - they instead told them that it sounded like an in-house problem and to at least put together a plan that included SOME of their own money. It's that seemingly reasonable response that made Stern so butt-hurt and things only escalated from there. The next move was the sale to Bennett and his demands for a 100% publicly funded $500M, which was obviously a con from the start.
Yeah, our leaders made mistakes, but fact is Stern was on the warpath from the beginning.
I don't know why Stern has his hatred-boner for us, but it's obviously existed even BEFORE the OKC heist. He started off playing hardball with our governments over a team that was still locked into a lease on a serviceable arena and few people had reason to believe was in trouble. He then acted shocked when everyone refused to kiss his ring.
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