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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:21 pm
  • Oklahoma REALLY wants to believe they didnt rip off a team from a great city. Their delusion is just sad at this point.

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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:36 pm
  • This sale isn't gonna happen if the Maloofs keep effing around, lord these dudes are clowns.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:41 pm
  • pinksheets wrote:Guy on sonicsrising made a really good point. Why would you sell something if you want to maintain control of it? Because you have to. I doubt the Maloofs can afford to hold out. Playing poker with Hansen and Ballmer won't end well for them.


    Considering the Maloofs are owners or partners in the Palms getting out played in Poker would be a new take on things for them.

    In fact I think they look at it as playing with house money, they get 450 million dollars, someone else takes the heat, they get to maintain their Ego's and play owners as well as have the ability to create chaos block anything and steal spotlight when something comes up. The prestige of ownership is still there with now risks and they get all the bills paid.

    If I'm Hansen I walk away from the table for couple weeks and let public opinion beat up the Maloofs before coming back. Or let the NBA leverage a bit more on them and play some dirty parlor tricks hoping that some of the debts are all of a sudden called in.

    Besides after sitting at a rigged table with Bennett and Schultz we know dirty poker and a rigged game now. Won't get fooled again on that level.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:06 pm
  • I think the Maloofs all but a small share of the Palms. They are awful, awful businessmen with a horrible track record. They're playboys (and girls I suppose) who have been living off of daddy's money and assets their whole lives and dwindling it down to the point that the Kings are all they have of any value left. Hansen and Ballmer are likely their one shot to make a deal that both solves their debt problems and gives them a nice overhead to invest in their other pursuits.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:10 pm
  • I could see Hansen bending a bit honestly, he did when negotiating with those clowns on the SCC when they tried to bend him over and he just let em cop a feel.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:26 pm
  • There is no pressure to negotiate in earnest yet for Hansen. March 1st is the day that any franchise relocations have to be filed. Maloofs can posture for awhile, but if this is going to happen the sale has to be approved and relocation filed to make it worth Hansen/Balmer time to do the deal. I figure there is about a month and a half before the door is closed on this. Unless the approval process takes longer in order to vet Hansen and the other ownership folks.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:42 pm
  • drdiags wrote:There is no pressure to negotiate in earnest yet for Hansen. March 1st is the day that any franchise relocations have to be filed. Maloofs can posture for awhile, but if this is going to happen the sale has to be approved and relocation filed to make it worth Hansen/Balmer time to do the deal. I figure there is about a month and a half before the door is closed on this. Unless the approval process takes longer in order to vet Hansen and the other ownership folks.


    Even with a deal worked out after March first, while it would mean another Sonic-less year for Seattle, it would also mean only one year (probably) they'd have to play in Key arena before the new stadium was built. And they'd have more time to hammer out some of the details that would be hurried doing it this year. If I'm Hansen, I wait it out and make the Maloofs come around. He holds all the cards.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:57 pm
  • This is probably exactly why George Magoof said they are not close...
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:05 am
  • I wouldn't blame Hansen from walking away from this deal while giving the dumb **** Maloofs a big "**** YOU!"

    Hansen does not have to do even a single thing more than everything he has already done. Even if it takes longer to get a team, I don't want that dumb f*** Maloof circus anywhere near the sonics organization.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:32 am
  • And if the Maloofs blow this deal there is still hope for an expansion team
    As Throw pointed out Stern will have a say in this and as someone else pointed out Stern gets what Stern wants...
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:39 am
  • Im actually staying in Sonora right now so the local news was from Sac and they are def fighting for their team right now and talking about the different ways and owners that would keep the team there...
    No new info just a lot of hope from Kings fans and somewhat flippant interviews w the Pike Place fish guys (not flattering)
    It all feels very familiar and saddening
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:21 am
  • Well if the story is true about expiration of contracts with sponsers etc and the Maloofs have to play in Arco again how much revenue are they going to get as well as attendence now that this has broke. How many local area companies will want to give money to a team leaving town and that ownership. How hard will it be for the players to show up and give it their all every night in a empty arean with owners wanting to pull out of being responsible for operations.

    Waiting a while and letting them have finance a lame year or look at doing it will surely put the pressure on them to deal at some point.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:53 am
  • strohmin wrote:I wouldn't blame Hansen from walking away from this deal while giving the dumb **** Maloofs a big "**** YOU!"

    Hansen does not have to do even a single thing more than everything he has already done. Even if it takes longer to get a team, I don't want that dumb f*** Maloof circus anywhere near the sonics organization.


    This is the closest we've been, you don't walk away til the Maloofs walk away IMO.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:14 am
  • dunceface wrote:Im actually staying in Sonora right now so the local news was from Sac and they are def fighting for their team right now and talking about the different ways and owners that would keep the team there...
    No new info just a lot of hope from Kings fans and somewhat flippant interviews w the Pike Place fish guys (not flattering)
    It all feels very familiar and saddening


    They're fighting for their team? Whatever, they're losing their team because they don't deserve them and they're bad fans! Right guys? :sarcasm_off:
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:32 am
  • Here's a thought that I've had a few times over the last little bit since this story was leaked. Maybe the deal's done. Complete. Finished. Signed and everything. Why? It's simple. Nobody wanted this leaked in the first place, and I'm guessing they were pretty pissed that it was leaked. Nobody, and I mean nobody wants anyone to watch the remaining Kings season knowing they're done for and dead in the water until the absolute last second. There could be a ton of behind-the-scenes stuff happening that will move this sale along quicker when it's finally announced, but until then, they don't want to say anything because of the effect it will have on the team and league. Just a hunch, but we may see the sale and petition to move done at the 11th hour. That leak wasn't supposed to happen, and things got well out of hand quickly. Too quickly for how early it still is in the year.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:44 am
  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:Here's a thought that I've had a few times over the last little bit since this story was leaked. Maybe the deal's done. Complete. Finished. Signed and everything. Why? It's simple. Nobody wanted this leaked in the first place, and I'm guessing they were pretty pissed that it was leaked. Nobody, and I mean nobody wants anyone to watch the remaining Kings season knowing they're done for and dead in the water until the absolute last second. There could be a ton of behind-the-scenes stuff happening that will move this sale along quicker when it's finally announced, but until then, they don't want to say anything because of the effect it will have on the team and league. Just a hunch, but we may see the sale and petition to move done at the 11th hour. That leak wasn't supposed to happen, and things got well out of hand quickly. Too quickly for how early it still is in the year.


    It would've had to have happened in the middle of the season regardless, March is the deadline to apply for relocation in the NBA. I think the news came out a bit prematurely, these types of things never come out until theyre finalized normally.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:47 am
  • Here's that logo they were working on, updated to reflect the recent stall in negotiations:

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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:48 am
  • Does make sense, I mean the leak itself was so strange, and out of left field. A daughter of a sports agent who tweets about food? wtf
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:12 am
  • More news, take it however you want, I'll wait until the announcements are made

    http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2013/1/11 ... al-is-done

    I've heard from reliable source that the Kings' sale to Hansen-Ballmer in Seattle is done deal. Source said price of the sale is $525 million. The source said further that the Maloofs will have no stake or decision-making with Seattle team and are out.


    If thats true, they upped the price $25M to let the Maloofs be pacified enough to keep their stench off the franchise.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:23 am
  • Seeing the same thing reported here:

    RealGM ‏@RealGM
    Unconfirmed Report: Kings To Be Sold For $525M To Seattle Group, Maloofs Completely Out -- http://bit.ly/UbEiFX


    I think Hansen could have saved himself 25 large by letting them sweat a day or two more. He has the time.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:24 am
  • ya in the end i don't think the maloofs are going to own any part of the team. i also think the deal is done. also how well does hansen work in the shadows. effective too.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:30 am
  • RealGM is pretty reliable when it comes to NBA news.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:34 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:If this works out, Hansen better never pay for a meal or a drink in Seattle ever again.


    He better never come across me, I got $43 to my name.

    Unless he wants to go to McDonalds i'll get him a McDouble and large dollar drink.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:39 am
  • Latest:

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    Comcast SportsNet's @MSteinmetzCSN tweets that Kings sale is done deal. $525M price & Maloofs are out altogether. KING5 working to confirm.


    The "Maloofs are out altogether" part is SOLID GOLD!
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:42 am
  • inb4 another "source" says two sides are still far apart lol
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:56 am
  • Jason Puckett ‏@JasonPuckettKJR
    Listening online to 95.7 The Game in SF and @MSteinmetzCSN says again, "a deal is done" with Hansen and Sacramento. #SonicsArena #Sonics


    They better rush and get that signed, approved and laminated before the Maloofs change their minds.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:03 pm
  • I really need to check out for awhile

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    RT @Ryan_Lillis: Richard Benvenuti, a limited partner in #NBAKings, tells Bee's @dakasler he has not been told of a sale
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:20 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:If this works out, Hansen better never pay for a meal or a drink in Seattle ever again.


    He better never come across me, I got $43 to my name.

    Unless he wants to go to McDonalds i'll get him a McDouble and large dollar drink.


    Lol it cant be that bad. You have access to a computer and internet
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:30 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:I really need to check out for awhile

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    RT @Ryan_Lillis: Richard Benvenuti, a limited partner in #NBAKings, tells Bee's @dakasler he has not been told of a sale


    Haha, there is going to be nothing official for awhile now. They still need to sell seats (though with the way the season has gone, they might as well make it official). For my money, this is a done deal
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:33 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:I really need to check out for awhile

    @ChrisDaniels5
    RT @Ryan_Lillis: Richard Benvenuti, a limited partner in #NBAKings, tells Bee's @dakasler he has not been told of a sale


    In other words, this guy hasnt been PERSONALLY told there is an official deal done so he's going to play dumb for now to help encourage fans to buy tix to games.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:43 pm
  • So all of this Twitter back and forth aside, can anyone comment on the validity of the lawsuit the port workers have brought against the Hansen-Ballmer group over the lack of a SEPA study? It seems like I remember them mentioning it as a stipulation in the MOU but don't remember the exact specifics...and wasnt the MOU just an agreement that could still be re-worked if need be, and not a contract? Does the union even have a case?
    Couldnt Hansen procure a team, house them in the Key, complete the SEPA and still make adjustments to whatever plan they move ahead with ALL before breaking ground?
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:12 pm
  • Thats a minor hurdle I think, as many places has stated if the Mariners are not effecting the Port how can the Basketball team, secondly Hansens group is going to improve most the area to make Trucking better not worse for them. Port will still have the container yards. Only way I think something really happens with the corrupt Port Authourity is if they had planned to move work to Tacoma anyway.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:26 pm
  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:Seeing the same thing reported here:

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    Unconfirmed Report: Kings To Be Sold For $525M To Seattle Group, Maloofs Completely Out -- http://bit.ly/UbEiFX


    I think Hansen could have saved himself 25 large by letting them sweat a day or two more. He has the time.


    Man I hope this is true!!!!!!!
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:29 pm
  • If true I would think he had a deal that he could get that cancer away completely he did it, after all 25 million at this point isn't a bank breaker. Hell the NBA may have kicked that in just to get the Maloofs out of the league.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:30 pm
  • lol whats funny is now Sacramento peoples are reporting pen to paper happening, and Seattles saying "whoa hold on player"
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:44 pm
  • yay ! Portlands favorite punching bag is alive again :P
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:58 pm
  • I know you need money badly... But you claim to love your team, why would you EVER sell to an owner that flat out said he wants to move the team out of the city? I mean thats pretty messed up, money or not
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:08 pm
  • m0ng0 wrote:yay ! Portlands favorite punching bag is alive again :P


    Punching bag eh? Sonics lead the rivalry 98-94, just sayin
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:16 pm
  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:Here's a thought that I've had a few times over the last little bit since this story was leaked. Maybe the deal's done. Complete. Finished. Signed and everything. Why? It's simple. Nobody wanted this leaked in the first place, and I'm guessing they were pretty pissed that it was leaked. Nobody, and I mean nobody wants anyone to watch the remaining Kings season knowing they're done for and dead in the water until the absolute last second. There could be a ton of behind-the-scenes stuff happening that will move this sale along quicker when it's finally announced, but until then, they don't want to say anything because of the effect it will have on the team and league. Just a hunch, but we may see the sale and petition to move done at the 11th hour. That leak wasn't supposed to happen, and things got well out of hand quickly. Too quickly for how early it still is in the year.

    That seems possible. What seems not so possible is that they could keep it quiet, though. Especially since the maloof b!@ch is on a reality tv show.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:20 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:More news, take it however you want, I'll wait until the announcements are made

    http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2013/1/11 ... al-is-done

    I've heard from reliable source that the Kings' sale to Hansen-Ballmer in Seattle is done deal. Source said price of the sale is $525 million. The source said further that the Maloofs will have no stake or decision-making with Seattle team and are out.


    If thats true, they upped the price $25M to let the Maloofs be pacified enough to keep their stench off the franchise.

    God I hope so. I HOPE SO. NO GOD DAMN MALOOFS.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:22 pm
  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:Seeing the same thing reported here:

    RealGM ‏@RealGM
    Unconfirmed Report: Kings To Be Sold For $525M To Seattle Group, Maloofs Completely Out -- http://bit.ly/UbEiFX


    I think Hansen could have saved himself 25 large by letting them sweat a day or two more. He has the time.

    Wow. For you 25 million is 25 large? For me 25 large would be 25 dollars. :(
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:28 pm
  • m0ng0 wrote:yay ! Portlands favorite punching bag is alive again :P

    Ha ha. Put down that bag of glue, son. :) Although the brain damage has obviously been done.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:54 pm
  • Mark Mastrov looking to buy the kings and keep them in Sac.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:58 pm
  • Some body stop this roller coaster, I want off!
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:01 pm
  • im getting real F'ing sick of the maloofs right about now. give hansen the team.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:32 pm
  • Pstark3 wrote:Mark Mastrov looking to buy the kings and keep them in Sac.


    Son of a..........
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:35 pm
  • Mark Mastrov is gonna need some rich rich friends to match the fire power our guys have. Also another source is saying the.teams been bought by Hansen.
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:38 pm
  • Geez...a lot of names popping up now. Mark Mastrov, founder of 24 hour Fitness. Also Dale Carlsen, CEO of Sleep Train have both made offers to keep Kings in Sacramento. This is gonna be a bumpy ride!
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Re: NBA returning to Seattle?
Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:15 pm
  • Offering and then finding out what it will cost is another. I could see the Maloofs background partnering with these guys to keep their hand in the pie. Buying them still solves nothing due to the Arena, that situation has to be accounted for as well. Hansen is now well into about a Billion Dollars between Arena and Team. Are those guys going to be able to match that. STAYING in Sacramento is the focal point of this I would think. The whole previous arena deal would have to become reality and picked up my these new participants, that still at this stage would include the Maloofs who nixed that deal already.

    Maloofs I think are now playing both ends against the middle hoping to land somewhere with ownership portion, a percentage of control and the prestige as well as a nice wad of cash.
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