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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:34 am
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:08 am
  • Bad day for Rooney. First he gets sat down in favor of RVP then after coming on as a sub he suffers a nasty gash on his leg that will keep him out of action for the next four weeks.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:23 am
  • Bet you Swansea fans are gutted now that Rodgers is at Liverpool.

    wait....
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:33 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Bet you Seansea fans are gutted now that Rodgers is at Liverpool.



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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:32 am
  • Well that's 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

    Thanks... Arsenal & Stoke.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:45 am
  • Well, I guess the only thing I can say about today is, better start than last year. I think I've figured out the main reason Arsenal is struggling to score, it's because they try to be fancy with their attempts, case in point Giroud's attempted scissor kick when he really didn't need to do that. They need to just straight up fire it.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:48 am
  • Liverpool grew into that half. Sterling doesn't look out of place at this level.

    By the way... spoke to a manager yesterday and apparently the Swansea players wanted Laudrup out almost as soon as he arrived. Didn't click at all... a few protests within the squad etc. Now have a 100% record, scored eight goals and conceded none. I'm working on their next game on Tuesday.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:32 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Liverpool grew into that half. Sterling doesn't look out of place at this level.

    By the way... spoke to a manager yesterday and apparently the Swansea players wanted Laudrup out almost as soon as he arrived. Didn't click at all... a few protests within the squad etc. Now have a 100% record, scored eight goals and conceded none. I'm working on their next game on Tuesday.


    Sterling looked quality. Joe Allen looks the business. Borini will get better the more time he and Suarez spend together. Lucas doesn't fit in Rodgers' system.

    Really should have had all three points today.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:33 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:Well, I guess the only thing I can say about today is, better start than last year. I think I've figured out the main reason Arsenal is struggling to score, it's because they try to be fancy with their attempts, case in point Giroud's attempted scissor kick when he really didn't need to do that. They need to just straight up fire it.


    Arsenal aren't scoring because they don't have RVP. We said it several times last year, he WAS Arsenal's goals, with few exceptions.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:42 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:Well, I guess the only thing I can say about today is, better start than last year. I think I've figured out the main reason Arsenal is struggling to score, it's because they try to be fancy with their attempts, case in point Giroud's attempted scissor kick when he really didn't need to do that. They need to just straight up fire it.


    Arsenal aren't scoring because they don't have RVP. We said it several times last year, he WAS Arsenal's goals, with few exceptions.


    LFC scored 4 goals and only got 1 point today. Encouraging, but frustrating.

    Arsenal couldn't score today against 11 goalposts. Maybe they should sub in their bank account, I hear it's very impressive.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:03 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Arsenal aren't scoring because they don't have RVP. We said it several times last year, he WAS Arsenal's goals, with few exceptions.


    You're really gonna use that shit ass excuse? Come on dude, I thought you had more common sense than that. Last year, Arsenal didn't score in their first 2 games, and lost the 2nd game. Funny thing about this, for a team that hasn't scored yet, they're ahead of Spurs and Liverpool, who have scored, in the standings. Liverpool and Spurs should have won this, and Liverpool embarrassed themselves last week when they shouldn't have. Arsenal's defense actually made a difference today against Stoke, and Arsenal always have trouble with Stoke especially at the Britannia.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:29 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Arsenal aren't scoring because they don't have RVP. We said it several times last year, he WAS Arsenal's goals, with few exceptions.


    You're really gonna use that shit ass excuse? Come on dude, I thought you had more common sense than that. Last year, Arsenal didn't score in their first 2 games, and lost the 2nd game. Funny thing about this, for a team that hasn't scored yet, they're ahead of Spurs and Liverpool, who have scored, in the standings. Liverpool and Spurs should have won this, and Liverpool embarrassed themselves last week when they shouldn't have. Arsenal's defense actually made a difference today against Stoke, and Arsenal always have trouble with Stoke especially at the Britannia.



    look no shame in taking a point out of the Britannia, but I think what peaches is saying (and if so I agree) is that the loss of RvP will have an immense impact on Arsenal's scoring abilities. You cant deny it right now. Its why United bought him. He is world (world) class as he showed yesterday.

    Arsenal will get on track but RvP really bailed them out of some games last season. Someone will have to step up... someone will.

    As for Liverpool, what do you say? Rodgers new system both helped and hurt again today. Little bit too often our back line got stuck in trying to build out. Skrtel doesnt gift that last year because he never would have been asked to play that way.

    2 points lost but I think confidence gained. Sterling was a revelation, and Joe Allen very surprising (as was Shelvey to be fair)
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:42 am
  • Gate, it's not an excuse. Losing RVP lost your team 25-30 goals in all comps. Someone needs to step up and fill that role, and so far no-one has. Giroud looks a decent signing, as does Cazorla, but Podolski is just not very good.

    Anyway, Si, I agree. The system brought plenty of chances and created the set-pieces, but the defense is suffering as a result. Joe Allen looked great, as did Shelvey. I don't think Lucas fits, so I see Sahin taking the midfield role next to Gerrard and Allen, with Assaidi coming in to spell Sterling occasionally. Sterling looks every bit as good as we thought he could be. His pace is electric. Once Suarez learns to look up and find Borini/Sterling, we'll start scoring plenty. Disappointed to see Suarez still running his mouth too much. Yes, the ref was being fairly easy on some of those tackles from Man City's backline, but you need to shut up and keep playing. Hopefully he learns sooner rather than later.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:15 pm
  • Liverpool were better than I expected today. I thought Suarez was absolutely rubbish for the most part... then he bangs out that world class free-kick. Still lacking a couple of truly world class players in key areas for me but that was more encouraging today for Liverpool than I was anticipating.

    Arsenal just looked devoid of ideas. The usual pretty passing at times but they'd get to the edge of the box and... nothing. No inspiration. Nobody seemingly willing to have a shot. Only when Walcott and Oxlaide-Chamberlain came on was there any threat to Stoke... and that's because they were more direct and took people on. Podolski and Gervinho were just on the periphery throughout. Dip your toe in, lads. I think Giroud will come good and it's not a direct replacement for RVP that is required... more it's an attack minded player who can play in front of Cazorla/Arteta and provide a cutting edge plus get 15 or so goals.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:51 pm
  • Giroud looks like he COULD become that player, Rob, but there are never any guarantees in this game.

    I agree about Suarez for the most part. That free kick was world class, though, and he still causes headaches for defenses. Borini's putting himself in great positions, and I think goals will come out of that. Defense really needs to figure it out, though, as at least 4 of the 5 goals we've shipped have come in the form of defensive lapses (I'm including penalties conceded here).
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:24 pm
  • 2 games. 0 goals. Arsenal need a goal scorer...only one I see available (who is up to the talent of the club) is Dempsey.


    They need to sign Dempsey. and they needed to do it two weeks ago.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:50 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Gate, it's not an excuse. Losing RVP lost your team 25-30 goals in all comps. Someone needs to step up and fill that role, and so far no-one has. Giroud looks a decent signing, as does Cazorla, but Podolski is just not very good.


    I'm using common sense, it's not an excuse, it's not a reason. Hell it's only two games, we can't be jumping to conclusions like 95% of the world. There's still 5 days left and Wenger has stated they are still looking at possible signings, I do get the feeling they are after Dempsey but they're surprisingly quiet about it if they are.

    If Arsenal do go for Deuce then it's a fight with Liverpool, who Fulham are furious with apparently, but I do believe Arsenal would have the advantage as they can offer immediate play in the Champions League, playing time is another matter(Liverpool still have to figure out what to do with Carroll and Arsenal have Giroud and Podolski).
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:42 am
  • Well, at last it's over. Spurs have agreed to sell Luka Modric to Real Madrid for upwards of £33 million. We've also agreed some sort of 'partnership' with Real Madrid, which I guess means that Gareth Bale will probably be playing at the Bernabeu next season, but could also result in Spurs getting more players like van der Vaart who are surplus to requirements in Madrid.

    Fingers crossed that we can now find a good midfielder sometime in the next 4 days. I really want Dembele. Moutinho would be nice too. I don't want to see much more of Livermore or Jenas on the pitch while the game is still in the balance.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:26 pm
  • Former Arsenal player Ian Wright has suggested Arsenal make a bid for rivals Spurs player Jermain Defoe, what do you think Hawkspur? Is he crazy or is it a possibility?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:59 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:Former Arsenal player Ian Wright has suggested Arsenal make a bid for rivals Spurs player Jermain Defoe, what do you think Hawkspur? Is he crazy or is it a possibility?


    Ian Wright is a mentor and close friend of Defoe's. He's been beating that drum for about 5 years now. Defoe's problem is that he inclined to shoot on sight, often at the expense of passing to a player in a better position. I'm inclined to agree with Rob and Smurf and think that someone who can play between the midfield and the striker like Alan Dzagoev, Wilian or Dempsey may be a better option.

    Also, at the moment Spurs have just 2 strikers, one of whom is Defoe. Unless we bring in Wilian and Leandro or Remy in the next 3 days I think it'd be futile for Arsenal to bother bidding.

    Edit: it's incredibly unlikely that Wright has any contact whatsoever with any of the Arsenal decision makers so I doubt that his speculation is based on anything more than his personal thoughts.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:11 am
  • 2 games. 0 goals.


    That is unacceptable.

    Last year the title was won by a single goal....and if Arsenal are to be league contenders (like Gate has been telling us), then they need to put the ball in the net.


    On a pace of 0 goals in 2 games. I can assure you they wont be in the top 3...let alone out of the relegation zone.

    If they don't sign a player to put the ball in the back of the net they are stupid and Arsene Wenger has a way bigger ego than other manager in the league....Even Fergie.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:42 am
  • Supposedly 5 teams in for Jay Spearing. LOLWUT? Fair enough. Get him out, along with Adam and Cole.

    Arsenal will find it tough to bring in a top-shelf goalscorer, as Spurs and possibly City are still in the market.

    Chelsea really look the business this year. Hazard will turn out to be the top transfer, I reckon. Scary.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:59 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Supposedly 5 teams in for Jay Spearing. LOLWUT? Fair enough. Get him out, along with Adam and Cole.

    Arsenal will find it tough to bring in a top-shelf goalscorer, as Spurs and possibly City are still in the market.

    Chelsea really look the business this year. Hazard will turn out to be the top transfer, I reckon. Scary.


    Sadly, I agree about Hazard and Chelsea. It's a 3 horse race which, I think, will finish City, Chelsea, United, in that order. Whoever finishes 4th will be a long way back and I don't think you could confidently name who that will be tight now. A lot will depend on what happens in the next 3 days.

    I think Spurs need a midfield playmaker, a wing/attacking midfield rotation player, a keeper, a striker and a left back, in that order. What do you guys think your respective clubs need to buy before Friday?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:05 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Supposedly 5 teams in for Jay Spearing. LOLWUT? Fair enough. Get him out, along with Adam and Cole.

    Arsenal will find it tough to bring in a top-shelf goalscorer, as Spurs and possibly City are still in the market.

    Chelsea really look the business this year. Hazard will turn out to be the top transfer, I reckon. Scary.


    Sadly, I agree about Hazard and Chelsea. It's a 3 horse race which, I think, will finish City, Chelsea, United, in that order. Whoever finishes 4th will be a long way back and I don't think you could confidently name who that will be tight now. A lot will depend on what happens in the next 3 days.

    I think Spurs need a midfield playmaker, a wing/attacking midfield rotation player, a keeper, a striker and a left back, in that order. What do you guys think your respective clubs need to buy before Friday?


    For liverpool, I think an attacking mid like Dempsey or Ramirez would finish out the transfers nicely. I don't feel like it's an immediate need, with the additions of Allen and Sahin, and the emergence of Sterling, but it'd be nice to have to give us some options.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:24 am
  • Smurf wrote:2 games. 0 goals.

    That is unacceptable.

    Last year the title was won by a single goal....and if Arsenal are to be league contenders (like Gate has been telling us), then they need to put the ball in the net.

    On a pace of 0 goals in 2 games. I can assure you they wont be in the top 3...let alone out of the relegation zone.

    If they don't sign a player to put the ball in the back of the net they are stupid and Arsene Wenger has a way bigger ego than other manager in the league....Even Fergie.


    It isn't unacceptable but it's a bit disappointing. The lack of goals in the first two games has been offset by the lack of goals allowed. Sure the title was won by a goal, but it really was goal differential that decided the title.

    Also I wouldn't be jumping to that conclusion just yet, after all Arsenal finished 3rd last year after failing to score in their first 2 games to start off the year, and that was with Van Pussy. 2 games is not going to decide the rest of the season.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:46 am
  • There's a rumor spreading that Arsenal might buy back Cesc Fabregas. This is steaming from an article about Vilanova not being able to find a place for Cesc on Barcelona. I'm a bit skeptical about this as the Marca tends to stretch the truth a lot.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:20 am
  • I can't believe you're calling RVP names, I really can't. You'e the worst kind of 'fan' out there.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:26 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:I can't believe you're calling RVP names, I really can't. You'e the worst kind of 'fan' out there.


    As opposed to Man United "fans" calling him a rapist and sex offender for 7 years and suddenly love him, I'm hardly being hypocritical. I'm only calling him that cause he chose to take a swipe at Arsenal and run rather than staying and trying to help change things.

    The way I see it, the players who leave their clubs for clubs like City, United and Chelsea don't want to work hard for their success. Going to United makes it a little more believable when players say they want to win trophies(a little less believable when they get paid 200k in order to win trophies). It's because these clubs have cash out of their owners ass to spend makes it difficult for teams to really improve. When teams want to buy decent players and they offer a honest price, a team like City or Chelsea comes in with a ridiculous offer and the club takes it, it's more or less the selling club that's at fault because they're accepting this stupid offers. And then there's the wages these teams pay is even dumber. For example, Nasri didn't deserved that pay he got when he signed with City, I'll admit he's been a bit more impressive so far(as much as I despise to say it).

    Wages is the real thing that's destroying soccer, players see someone that's probably as good if not worst than them is getting paid more than him and they go and say they want more money, and when clubs like Arsenal are getting these demands for wage raises and they won't bite then the players start to spread slander about the club and try and force moves to clubs that will pay them outrageous wages. Clubs need to start telling these players "you will get paid what we pay you and if you don't like it there's the bench" or either the FA and other countries football governing bodies or even UEFA need to implement wage caps otherwise all the European leagues are gonna end up like La Liga where it's always seems to be a 2 horse race and the only interesting race is for 3rd and relegation.

    (I don't know how I went from talking about RvP to talking about wages and wage caps)
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:54 pm
  • You know that Man Utd are not made of money right? Like, they are in pretty considerable debt actually....Fergie didn't spend much money last off season for no reason...Its because they were F'd financially...They got the ship righted a little bit and Fergie went out and got some players.


    Also...

    If 0 goals in 2 games IS acceptable to you...You have crap standards. If the Sounders go 2 games without scoring a goal the ENTIRE FANBASE goes ape shit.


    Arsenal have repeatedly failed to address their star players concerns....and then their star players left. Cesc was always going ot go to Barca, you're a moron if you didn't think he would go eventually. But Nasri and RVP? They could have been saved if Arsenal opened up the damn pocketbook...like 3 seasons ago.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:24 pm
  • It looks Moussa Dembele might be on his way to Spurs. He has been pure class in the games I've seen him play and has been one of the midfielders I've wanted at Spurs for ages now. I'm really hoping that this one goes through. Rumours about Lloris are picking up steam too. Again, fingers crossed.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:37 pm
  • Smurf wrote:You know that Man Utd are not made of money right? Like, they are in pretty considerable debt actually....Fergie didn't spend much money last off season for no reason...Its because they were F'd financially...They got the ship righted a little bit and Fergie went out and got some players.

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    If 0 goals in 2 games IS acceptable to you...You have crap standards. If the Sounders go 2 games without scoring a goal the ENTIRE FANBASE goes ape shit.

    Arsenal have repeatedly failed to address their star players concerns....and then their star players left. Cesc was always going ot go to Barca, you're a moron if you didn't think he would go eventually. But Nasri and RVP? They could have been saved if Arsenal opened up the damn pocketbook...like 3 seasons ago.


    I wasn't exactly talking about the Man United as of the last 2 years, though they're still trying to fix their debt and they spent probably around 40-50 million on Kagawa and Van Persie.

    And 0 goals in 2 games is only acceptable cause it was the first 2 games and Arsenal have allowed 0 goals in the process. If they had lost either or both of those games then I'd be upset. 3 of the next 4 games will be huge for Arsenal. Arsenal has Liverpool this Saturday, and then following Southampton, they've got City and Chelsea, if Arsenal manages to get 4 or 5 points at least in those 3 games(they'll probably beat the Saints) I think Arsenal will be okay, if they get any less then I'll be a little worried, if they get nothing out of those 3 then I'll be really worried.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:39 pm
  • An article for Gate... to provide more substance to your sig..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012 ... senal-deal

    Edit: FWIW - he must be either really sick of Arsenal or be delusional if he's turned down £75000 per week. Or fairly certain City's going to come knocking I guess.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:52 pm
  • Word spreading on twitter is that Arsenal have had a bid of £17m accepted by Newcastle United for Yohan Cabaye.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:16 pm
  • Gate, RVP gave Arsenal some fantastic effort and a lot of goals. Nasri played well for them. Same with Fabregas and Reyes. I didn't call Torres names when he went to Chelsea. I didn't call Owen names when he went to Real. I wouldn't have called Gerrard names if he'd went to Chelsea 7 years ago. It's part of the game. I respect players for their contributions to my team and wish them the best when they move on. Holding grudges against players is stupid. Blame the management for not convincing them that staying is the best option, and for not putting them in a position where they feel like they can win trophies.


    Anyway, 17mil for Cabaye is crazy money. He's decent, but not that good. Newcastle play kind of a funky system up there and I'm not sure how long he would take to adapt to Wenger's playing style.

    Dembele is one of my favorite non-Liverpool players, Spur, and if Spurs really do get him that'll be a major coup. I don't think he'll fully replace Modric, and if Bale goes next year there'll be an even bigger hole to fill, but he's a real quality midfielder, is good on the ball and passes well. As for Lloris....I'll believe it when I see it.



    On Walcott, I've never really rated him. He has some pace, but his ball control is below average, and I've seen him get to the bye-line and either give the ball away stupidly, or have no idea what to do next. He's not a great striker when put in that role, so his value is on the wing, but I've just never really been that impressed by him.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:21 pm
  • My hopes are high we are still looking for a second striking option, and maybe another decent defender.

    Apparently we are needing to sell off our dead weight before larger moves can happen.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:41 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Gate, RVP gave Arsenal some fantastic effort and a lot of goals. Nasri played well for them. Same with Fabregas and Reyes. I didn't call Torres names when he went to Chelsea. I didn't call Owen names when he went to Real. I wouldn't have called Gerrard names if he'd went to Chelsea 7 years ago. It's part of the game. I respect players for their contributions to my team and wish them the best when they move on. Holding grudges against players is stupid. Blame the management for not convincing them that staying is the best option, and for not putting them in a position where they feel like they can win trophies.


    I don't recall Torres talking about how he loves Liverpool and that he couldn't see himself ever playing for a team other than Liverpool. Van Persie talked about his love for Arsenal and that he doesn't want to leave 6 months ago, then hightails it after cracking on the club. Nasri on the other hand ditched Arsenal for triple pay at City and cracked on Arsenal and spent the whole season trying to justify his move, while pissing off Arsenal fans at the same time, and he still hasn't justified his move(a trophy doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season on the bench). It doesn't help that those players, among others, refuse to thank Wenger or Arsenal for the opportunity. Sure the board is obviously more concerned with paying off a loan than investing in the team, it starting to look like they're finished with that though. But, Arsenal fans are sick and tired of pulling knives out of their backs that were stuck there by players they thought were loyal and proud to be Gunners.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:01 pm
  • Sports are a business, dude.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:16 pm
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    peachesenregalia wrote:Gate, RVP gave Arsenal some fantastic effort and a lot of goals. Nasri played well for them. Same with Fabregas and Reyes. I didn't call Torres names when he went to Chelsea. I didn't call Owen names when he went to Real. I wouldn't have called Gerrard names if he'd went to Chelsea 7 years ago. It's part of the game. I respect players for their contributions to my team and wish them the best when they move on. Holding grudges against players is stupid. Blame the management for not convincing them that staying is the best option, and for not putting them in a position where they feel like they can win trophies.


    I don't recall Torres talking about how he loves Liverpool and that he couldn't see himself ever playing for a team other than Liverpool. Van Persie talked about his love for Arsenal and that he doesn't want to leave 6 months ago, then hightails it after cracking on the club. Nasri on the other hand ditched Arsenal for triple pay at City and cracked on Arsenal and spent the whole season trying to justify his move, while pissing off Arsenal fans at the same time, and he still hasn't justified his move(a trophy doesn't change the fact that he spent the majority of the season on the bench). It doesn't help that those players, among others, refuse to thank Wenger or Arsenal for the opportunity. Sure the board is obviously more concerned with paying off a loan than investing in the team, it starting to look like they're finished with that though. But, Arsenal fans are sick and tired of pulling knives out of their backs that were stuck there by players they thought were loyal and proud to be Gunners.



    You live in another world, mate.

    Anyway, ISWT, I've heard Spearing, Adam and Cole will all be offloaded. Dempsey seems like it's pretty close, and I'd also like to see them in for another center-half as cover. I like Coates, and Kelly can play CB if needed, but with Agger's injury issues of the past I think a decent sub would be prudent planning.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:26 pm
  • Dempsey's been pretty close for 2 months, at the rate it's going he's not leaving Fulham until January at the earliest.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:43 pm
  • I was looking through Arsenal's roster trying to figure out who I think they should sell, and one player just feels on the fence for me, Andrei Arshavin. He does have loads of potential and he's shown it, especially 09-10 and 10-12, but the last year he's just seemed really lazy and completely uninterested in trying. I have noticed that Wenger has an unusual amount of faith in Arshavin, but it's hurt Arsenal last season(his brilliant defending on the 2nd Man U goal last January). He's one of those players where if he leaves it won't be a tragedy, but if he stays he's gotta prove himself worthy of the faith he's being given instead of just half-assing it through most of the games. That's just my opinion though.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:32 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Dembele is one of my favorite non-Liverpool players, Spur, and if Spurs really do get him that'll be a major coup. I don't think he'll fully replace Modric, and if Bale goes next year there'll be an even bigger hole to fill, but he's a real quality midfielder, is good on the ball and passes well. As for Lloris....I'll believe it when I see it.



    I agree about Dembele being unlikely to fully replace Modric. The closest we could have realistically come to that was probably Moutinho, but if Spurs do manage to sign Dembele and Wilian for the same amount of money then I think the team is better off.

    As for Lloris, like all Spurs transfers I never believe it 'til I see it, but I don't think it's out of the question. Lyon have accepted a bid and quotes from the player sound promising. Most bigger clubs have incumbent goalkeepers so, as I say, it's not out of the question. Friedel is 40-41 and is too slow for the type of defence Villas-Boas likes to play.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:18 pm
  • Stoke have offered 4mil for Charle Adam. I say take it and run, and get whatever we can for Spearing and Cole.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:09 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Stoke have offered 4mil for Charle Adam. I say take it and run, and get whatever we can for Spearing and Cole.


    Adam, Palacios and Shawcross! May as well go the whole hog and sign Scholes as well. I hope we rest our star players when we go to Stoke.

    I don't see anyone offering more than £4m for Adam so I'd agree with you. Get rid of his wages and get him off the squad. Daniel Levy has been waiting for someone to meet his evaluations of Bentley, dos Santos and Jenas for years now, turning down reasonable offers. As a result we've had 3 extra years of paying their wages so it's a big of a false economy to wait for the right deal. The only value they have to us now is to bulk out our squad with homegrown players.

    Lucas is out again. Do Liverpool have adequate cover or will they need to bring someone in?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:35 am
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    By the way... spoke to a manager yesterday and apparently the Swansea players wanted Laudrup out almost as soon as he arrived. Didn't click at all... a few protests within the squad etc. Now have a 100% record, scored eight goals and conceded none. I'm working on their next game on Tuesday.


    Do you know why they didn't like him? Was he too arrogant? Demanding? Foreign? Still better at football than the players? They certainly seem to have responded well over the past couple of months, one way or another. They certainly seem to have a more than adequate replacement for Sigurdsson in Michu.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:44 am
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    peachesenregalia wrote:Stoke have offered 4mil for Charle Adam. I say take it and run, and get whatever we can for Spearing and Cole.


    Adam, Palacios and Shawcross! May as well go the whole hog and sign Scholes as well. I hope we rest our star players when we go to Stoke.

    I don't see anyone offering more than £4m for Adam so I'd agree with you. Get rid of his wages and get him off the squad. Daniel Levy has been waiting for someone to meet his evaluations of Bentley, dos Santos and Jenas for years now, turning down reasonable offers. As a result we've had 3 extra years of paying their wages so it's a big of a false economy to wait for the right deal. The only value they have to us now is to bulk out our squad with homegrown players.

    Lucas is out again. Do Liverpool have adequate cover or will they need to bring someone in?


    Honestly, I don't think Lucas fits in Rodgers' system. We've no need for a holding defensive mid anymore. With Allen, Gerrard, Sahin, Shelvey, et al, I think we'll be fine.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:55 am
  • Here's the latest Liverpool transfer rumour courtesy of the fake Yaya Toure on twitter: Liverpool's bid for Fernando Llorente has hit a snag. Athletic Bilboa insist they want £25m, whilst liverpool refuse to pay less then £35m.

    Sounds more plausible than most of the other rumours on twitter.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:08 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:Here's the latest Liverpool transfer rumour courtesy of the fake Yaya Toure on twitter: Liverpool's bid for Fernando Llorente has hit a snag. Athletic Bilboa insist they want £25m, whilst liverpool refuse to pay less then £35m.

    Sounds more plausible than most of the other rumours on twitter.


    Fake Yaya Toure can do one.

    Think Spurs'll get Llorente or not?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:11 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:
    theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
    By the way... spoke to a manager yesterday and apparently the Swansea players wanted Laudrup out almost as soon as he arrived. Didn't click at all... a few protests within the squad etc. Now have a 100% record, scored eight goals and conceded none. I'm working on their next game on Tuesday.


    Do you know why they didn't like him? Was he too arrogant? Demanding? Foreign? Still better at football than the players? They certainly seem to have responded well over the past couple of months, one way or another. They certainly seem to have a more than adequate replacement for Sigurdsson in Michu.


    I got a feeling that their opinion of him is changing.
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