Alright, Spurs. Back in your box.

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Yeah, man. If they don't buy someone like Moutinho, Tom Ince etc in January they may as well hammer a nail or two in that box, put it next to Liverpool's and we can fight it put for the final UEFA Cup place every year.

Quality effort from the Reds today. Hopefully if we can stay within striking distance then do some Christmas shopping we can put the heat on the top 5-6 teams or at least make their own respective campaigns more difficult.

In rooting for QPR this year I'm learning what it must be like to be a Browns fan.

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Iain Dowie and Phil Brown will no doubt be hanging around outside Loftus Road, resumes in hand, awaiting Mr Fernandes' arrival on Monday morning.

Phil Brown > Iain Dowie.

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Hawkspur, I'd like to give a high 5-2 you.

In all honesty, claiming that the red card was why Spurs lost is not a legit excuse, I know I wouldn't admit it if it was Arsenal but still. Spurs had a striker sent off when up 1-0 and after that they played as if they had a defender sent off, hell half the time Spurs looked like they were running around like chickens with their heads cut off. It was awesome to see all the Arsenal new boys to score in their first NLD and for Mertesacker to finally get his first Gunners goal. The win was definitely satisfying and hopefully this will result in a massive turnaround.

I'm guessing it's true that Spurs played like they had a defender sent off rather than a striker. If you re-read my post you'll notice that I thought we would lose beforehand based on Huddlestone being too slow to cope with your midfield. The red card certainly didn't help; Lennon was very close to making it 2-0 seconds before Adebayor got himself sent off. My main gripe with the red card is that it was given (legitimately, admittedly) when many other refs (including Howard Webb on most other days) wouldn't have. Although I would have been slightly surprised if we'd held on to win, the red card definitely changed to momentum.

A great result for Arsenal (yuck), but I'm guessing that Spurs won't have been as bad in this 5-2 loss as they were in last year's.

You and I have different opinions on the red card. While I'm sure we'll both agree that it was a bookable challenge, I feel that it warranted a red card. I think the reasoning behind the red card was that Adebayore's challenge was totally reckless and could have severely injured Cazorla. First off he dove in, second was a foot above the ground when he made contact and finally he was never gonna get the ball(if he had touched the ball he would have probably saved himself from a red card and got just a yellow).

I'll chime in... Howard Webb loves to leave an impact on Derby games (or just any massive rivalry). Adebayor deserved yellow. Being reckless is what a yellow card is for. Making contact (or in this case full contact) is what reds are for. Either way. It was close enough either would have been warranted. But with Webb you knew it would be red.

Arsenal looked the better side but still leaky, even with a man up. At 4-1 they let off and gave one up, then if not for Bales selfishness were ready to give up another soon after. That group needs to organize, and I mean from the front back. But its a derby victory and they should just settle for 3 points.

Suarez is the best striker in the EPL... I dare someone to argue who is doing more with less. Simply superb. And liverpool have gone 7 straight undefeated. A nice run for the young team with the new manager (and yes its just Wigan, but it was just Stoke not too long ago)

Poor effort by United, and Chelsea is showing cracks. They not only look mortal but severly flawed, especially defensively.

More to be setttled by Boxing Day. Looking forward to see what groups step forward and which fall back in the next 4 weeks.

And before I forget... suck it Bitters!

I'm just hoping that when Gibbs returns all struggles will cease.



If I didn't know any better I'd say you were saying Liverpool is shit and Suarez is saving their ass every week.



It's kinda obvious United's defensive ineptitude is worse than Arsenal, their offense is what's distracting people from it. As for Chelsea, they've joined Liverpool on the list of teams West Brom have upset at home this season. Nice try by Cech to attempt to save a point at the end though.

Gate, you should start every one of your posts with "if I didnt know better"...

Deliberately avoided this thread for a while, we are not very good

I think it's fixable, but right now we are terrible. While we are missing a few key players it is obvious that we have no depth. Dembele, Kaboul, Benny and Parker are much missed. Huddlestone is poor. Livermore is poor. Sigurdsson and Dempsey have been largely disappointing. Gallas is past it. Walker is good, but is being tested. Adebayor is about to serve a ban before heading of to the freaking African Cup of Nations where he will no doubt get injured.
Carroll and Falque look promising and should be given a chance, but we really need a quality creative mid and another good striker ASAP, otherwise we're gunning for 7th.

Sparky Hughes in talks with the QPR top brass today. Reckon he probably gets the axe.

Who'll they bring in? I know Dowie and Brown are the most common names, but what about some names no-one is thinking about? What about 'Arry? Or Benitez?

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It's gotta be Redknapp, surely. Benitez isn't someone I'd considered.

In my post on Saturday I mentioned Brown and Dowie but that was only because they seem to have been linked with every job going in the last few years. I'd doubt very much they'd get the job.

Phil Brown did wonders with Hull his first season in the PL. I don't rate Dowie.

It would probably be Redknapp because it's the kind of job he loves. Down-and-out club with seemingly no hope but big aspirations. He comes in and puts together a bit of a run, saves them from the drop, then has them farting about mid-table for a while. And if he doesn't manage to keep them up, he can just say he had no chance with the situation he walked into and work on bringing them back up from the Championship. Win-win for all involved, really.

benitez is an intriguing prospect, though. He's made no secret about wanting to come back and manage a PL club again, and this is a decent situation for him. Owners are willing to spend and there'll be no real expectations on his shoulders coming in.

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I want to see Redknapp at Loftus Road.

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Was Sparky sacked or not?

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It must be nice working for Abramovich. This is the either the ultimate case of "what have you done for me lately?" or "welcome Senor Guardiola". Interesting managerial times in West London either way.

If Guardiola is the new boss it'll be fascinating to see whether he'll be successful without the Barcelona midfield. The Chelsea equivalent is pretty sharp so I'm guessing he could.