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I'm pretty stoked. It will be awesome to have 2 more loser franchises in Seattle for me to make fun of :D . Not counting the Seahawks of course!!

It will definatly be fun to have the Sonics back. As a Blazer fan I miss the rivalry.

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Fantastic!!! Sonics back in place, and very excited for the NHL to come to town!

Who at this point in time (since things are always changing) is the most likely candidate to move here and become the Sonics? Still the Kings? And when would that happen?


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Press conference on the arena going on right now. Fox 13 is covering it.

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This dude Sally Clark needs to chill on key arena


I was noticing the same thing.


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Congratulations!

its pretty sweet this thing actually passed and is going to happen. after all the delays and extra this and that, its nice to see a guy like chris hansen get to play out his vision and bring back a pro sports venue capable of hosting basketball and hockey. so now seattle is going to get all sorts of opportunities to showcase that new building. as soon as the sonics come back, we get the all star game. as soon as the hockey team relocates or is created for us, another all star game. the ncaa march madness tournament has regional tournament brackets to start it out, one of these years it can be up in seattle in a beautiful new building.

man im actually way happier now that im thinking about this. do it like the vmac for training facilities and all that so its top of the line for the nba with all the bells and whistles (hard to out class cuban in this regard but somewhere in the ball park would be excellent). great facilities help keep players and attract others (all other things considered being equal). to be able to create from blue print exactly what you want for sight lines, architecture, regional/cultural appeal.


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So cool to see.Hansen for governor of Washington.I would say the Kings are the most likely to locate but we will see.Seems like more troubled franchises in the NHL but Coyotes,Islanders,Panthers and Bluejackets would be the leading contenders.


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I got no problem admitting it. At that first game back, when the crowd yells "SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-PERSONICS", I'm going to cry like a little baby.

I'm getting chills just thinking about it.

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when the crowd yells "SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-PERSONICS"
I'm getting chills just thinking about it.


That's all I hear in my head, been like that all day. I hear that chant, love it. Really stuck in there.

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I got no problem admitting it. At that first game back, when the crowd yells "SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-PERSONICS", I'm going to cry like a little baby.

I'm getting chills just thinking about it.


I actually teared up today as I read the news in the paper. It's really amazing the power these things have over you.

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I got no problem admitting it. At that first game back, when the crowd yells "SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-PERSONICS", I'm going to cry like a little baby.

I'm getting chills just thinking about it.


I actually teared up today as I read the news in the paper. It's really amazing the power these things have over you.


Judging from almost every post I've ever seen from you Dom, I think we need to change your moniker from Capt'n Dom to Capt'n BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHZZZZ-kill! :mrgreen:

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As if we needed any more confirmation that Chris Hansen is the coolest dude ever. From his letter today thanking the fans for their support:

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And on that note, I would personally like to buy you all a beer at FX McRory's this Thursday from 5-7. First beer for everyone is on me.


http://www.sonicsarena.com/news/to-all- ... upporters1

If anything, it should be US buying him a beer!

This guy is already my favorite owner in this city, and he doesn't even own a team yet.

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I got no problem admitting it. At that first game back, when the crowd yells "SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-PERSONICS", I'm going to cry like a little baby.

I'm getting chills just thinking about it.


I actually teared up today as I read the news in the paper. It's really amazing the power these things have over you.


Judging from almost every post I've ever seen from you Dom, I think we need to change your moniker from Capt'n Dom to Capt'n BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHZZZZ-kill! :mrgreen:


What does that have to do with my emotions regarding this event? I didn't think stating that I was emotional when reading the news was a buzzkill at all.

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He's a Sonics super fan, something about him makes it seem like he doesn't see himself different from anyone of us and that's hella cool.

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As if we needed any more confirmation that Chris Hansen is the coolest dude ever. From his letter today thanking the fans for their support:

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And on that note, I would personally like to buy you all a beer at FX McRory's this Thursday from 5-7. First beer for everyone is on me.


http://www.sonicsarena.com/news/to-all- ... upporters1

If anything, it should be US buying him a beer!

This guy is already my favorite owner in this city, and he doesn't even own a team yet.


That is awesome right there! Hansen is the man!

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And the Mariners just continue to disappoint and piss people off:

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Letter from SODO maritime/business groups including #Mariners: "We believe the MOU’s pre-selection (of SODO arena site) will prejudice...

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and constitutes an impermissible “action” taken without SEPA review."

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#Mariners say they signed on as members of the broader coalition, and that Dave Gering and Jordan Royer have taken lead on the issue.


I was all set to say whatever to these clowns and root for the players, but the front office just continues to make that impossible

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That is the final straw for me. The mariners, I am thru with them.

They are typical Seattle. They epitimize all that is bad about this city. A typical can't do attitude that permeates government and a resistance to change that flows through its citizens. Satisfied with the status quo and fearful of an uncertain future.

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Well I'm glad Hansen is doing what he is doing, but the gloating the City is doing makes me sick, getting Hansen to fork over another 47 million and pay for partial renovation of the Key in addition to what he will do with it as a temperary home for the Sonics and the 40 million for traffic and to read an artical by the port saying we appreciate it but we can't see 40 million doing anything for improvements.

I don't see anyone else contributing anything, they SAY the port and others are suppose to put money into this fund, I guess we will see.

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The Mariners backstabbing the hand that feeds them is gonna comeback and haunt them, not all Baseball fans are Basketball fans, nor are they all Hockey fans, but I would wager a larger percentage are fans of either sport or both. The Mariners will again at some point ask for money from all of us and the City for renovations :) How do you think they will respond to saying well Hansen ponied up 65 percent or more plus we want a fund set aside for area improvement.

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And the Mariners just continue to disappoint and piss people off:

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Letter from SODO maritime/business groups including #Mariners: "We believe the MOU’s pre-selection (of SODO arena site) will prejudice...

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and constitutes an impermissible “action” taken without SEPA review."

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#Mariners say they signed on as members of the broader coalition, and that Dave Gering and Jordan Royer have taken lead on the issue.


I was all set to say whatever to these clowns and root for the players, but the front office just continues to make that impossible


Can we please get a new local ownership for the Mariners too? I mean this is unreal for them to do this.

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One more way the Mariners let people down.

They are really scared shitless that with more places to spend your sports entertainment dollar, that they will have to invest and become a winning organization or be the fourth most (oops, forgot the Soccer team) fifth most popular team in the City.

They have been doing the minimum to retain fans for a long time, competition worries them.

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One more way the Mariners let people down.

They are really scared shitless that with more places to spend your sports entertainment dollar, that they will have to invest and become a winning organization or be the fourth most (oops, forgot the Soccer team) fifth most popular team in the City.

They have been doing the minimum to retain fans for a long time, competition worries them.

That's it exactly!

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its sad that a farm team is trying to stop your local residents from enjoying world class basketball and hockey because they cannot put a competent team together for what they believe to be a cost effective investment for entertainment and a return in sales profits. i watched them play my blue jays last night...both teams were terrible.


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lol Did Burgess just give a quick little jab at the Mariners?

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In a meeting with The Seattle Times editorial board Tuesday to explain the revised agreement, Burgess was asked about the Mariners' opposition to the Sodo location for a new arena.

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Funny it's the Hockey team that would be the primary competition with the Mariners, yet nobody has any idea how and when we will get a team here.

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I really cannot fathom how an organization who's stadium the VOTERS opposed, but got it anyway with 80% public funds can bitch about a privately-funded stadium being built. It just defies all rationality.

God I hate the Mariners. How can they not realize how bad they are making themselves look? This has to be one of THE STUPIDEST franchises in sports history.


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I really cannot fathom how an organization who's stadium the VOTERS opposed, but got it anyway with 80% public funds can bitch about a privately-funded stadium being built. It just defies all rationality.

God I hate the Mariners. How can they not realize how bad they are making themselves look? This has to be one of THE STUPIDEST franchises in sports history.


If they had a clue on anything you would think after ten years they would figure out that the run with Lou and Pat is over now?

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So... Would it be creepy to put Chris Hansen's picture as my avy?

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So... Would it be creepy to put Chris Hansen's picture as my avy?


You may add a caption such as Screw ya all, Money can Buy HAPPINESS.

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YAY SONICS THREAD.

Chris Hansen is a pretty exceptional guy. Talking to him you would have no idea he was that fucking rich (and he is, that fucking rich). From talking to him a few months back he seemed to think that getting a new franchise was a serious possibility in 3 years (if no one moved). This guy is in it for the long haul and loves Seattle.

I'm glad they have portrayed him the same way in the media as my brief interactions with him.

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Just put the Dave Chapelle line on it and you should be good to go.

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Last night on King 5 news there was a story about why are the Mariners leading the charge to not have the Arena approved.

The Mariners would not be interviewed but the story speculated that it due to Hansen possibly owning two teams and creating a TV Network that would compete with the Mariners who are planning on creating one. In other words again they are afraid of competition and are even to chickenshit to respond on air about the situation.

They are intimidated by him plain and simple, he has more money, more backers locally and will become more of a local influence.

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Let Hansen and his group buy the M's as well and we might actually have a legitimate owner who cares about winning instead of profits


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Howard Lincoln is too stupid to realize winning = profits (and lots of profit)

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Aaron Levine on QitupSports last night was ripping the M's and Howard Lincoln, it was great!
Softy and Ian on KJR were rippping Lincoln as well! I thinking of packing up all of my M's gear and sending it to Howard the putz, since I am starting to really hate the M's org!

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< yessir, I put my mariners hat in the closet until further notice.

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Want to hate the Mariners and Howard Lincoln even more? Read today's blog post from Brian Robinson of SonicsCentral and Arena Solution:

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There have been lots of places this whole experience have taken me that I haven’t particularly enjoyed. As a lifelong fan of area sports I am deeply saddened by the Mariners position. As they continue to show that their opposition has no boundaries I grow more and more disturbed by Howard Lincoln’s ruthless belief in territorial entitlement.

It is difficult to summarize the relationships involved in the Mariners efforts to prevent the Sonics from returning and sharing the market.

Pete VonReichbauer was one of the few Seattle area leaders who personally knew Clay Bennett prior to the teams sale and vouched for his character to former Basketball Club of Seattle owners at the time they sold the team to OKC.

Pete VonReichbauer frequently bcc’s Howard Lincoln on his arena related correspondence and spends a good deal of time at Lincolns personal residence. The two are close friends friends since the Safeco Field day’s when a group of former Booth Gardner staffers rose to local prominence.

This group included Jim Kneeland of Pacific Public Affairs who was Gardners Press Secretary. Booth Gardner’s stepmother was a member of the Blethen family who own and operate the Seattle Times.

Pacific Public Affairs went on to represent the Mariners for years as well as being the public affairs company of the Seattle Times.

PPA was referred to represent Clay Bennett when the sale to OKC occured. Everybody acknowledges that Frank Blethen of the Seattle Times also had a relationship with Bennett prior to the sale.

PPA and another agency, Cocker Fennessy have emerged as the leading opponents of the arena, leading the drive of PR against it. Rick Cocker is another former Mariners PR Spokesperson.

Port of Seattle CEO Tay Yoshitani was invited to join this entire group with Lincoln in the owners box at Mariners opening night. Lincoln has since hidden behind the ports public benefit arguments and using Yoshitani as a face for his own anti-arena efforts.

I could go on all day with this. There is much more.

Having seen the lengths that Lincoln will go. Having heard the stories of his aggressive efforts to work the wealthy backrooms. Knowing that he was willing to actively and aggressively lobby the Chamber of Commerce, Downtown Seattle Association and Seattle Sports Commission to not support the returns of this franchise I have to question if there are any boundaries which he would not cross. He wants a bigger chunk of the market for himself and is willing to cross any lines to get there.

I would never have asked this question before but think that it deserves asking. If he was willing to do all this we have to consider :

Is there reason to believe that Howard Lincoln could have directly participated in efforts to block the Sonics previous arena efforts before the sale to the PBC?

Even worse:

With this questionable moral compass could he have directly conspired with the Clay Bennett to run a competitor out of town?

At this point I wouldn’t put it past him. The thought of it is deeply disturbing.

Could we have blamed the wrong Howard?


http://sonicscentral.com/blog/?p=2303#comments

I hate Howard Lincoln more than ANY Seattle sports upper management figure ever. Not including the ones who tried/succeeded in moving teams (Bennett/Behring/Smulyen).

Hell, on second thought, I dunno. I actually think I might hate Howard Lincoln more than I hate Clay Bennett. At least Bennett screwed us and left. Lincoln has been screwing us for over a decade and continues to do so, staring us in the face while doing it. Not only in what he's doing to the sports fans of the area in trying to stop us from getting more teams. But also in how he's run the Mariners. If Howard Lincoln were to get hit by a bus and die, I'd feel ZERO remorse.

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Here we go again.

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"KeyArena is dead and done the day the new arena opens," said state Rep. Reuven Carlyle, whose district includes Seattle Center and Lower Queen Anne. "The language to study KeyArena punts on any meaningful commitment to the future of Seattle Center."

Carlyle isn't alone in that critique.

Members of the Seattle Center Advisory Commission say the new arena would "devastate" KeyArena, throw its existing business plan into doubt and leave Seattle Center without one of its major draws.



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They are calling on the City Council, which will vote Monday on the revised arena agreement with investor Chris Hansen, to amend the deal once more and allocate additional resources to Seattle Center.



http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019205220_keyarena20m.html

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Can we please get some new owners for the M's? Please, I want to support them, but am really having a hard time with Lincoln at the helm.

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