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  • Twitter is jumping with some awful high enthusiasm over this right now!

    For example:

    mitch levy @kjrmitch Tomorrow is going to be a very good day for sports fans in the northwest who crave the return of the NBA!
    Retweeted by Danny Kelly


    Oh please, please make this happen! For both NBA and NHL!
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Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:00 pm
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Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:07 pm
  • I don't want Sacramento to get railroaded the way Seattle did, i want to see them get every fair chance they can, if it comes down to them being jobbed the way Seattle did then i don't want it and wont watch them. then there is the evil slimy piece of crap who runs the nba who makes me sick every time i see him speak.

    I would LOVE to see us get the Sonics back and a NHL team, just do it the right way and don't shaft other city's the way we got screwed.
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Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:12 pm
  • Msfann wrote:I don't want Sacramento to get railroaded the way Seattle did, i want to see them get every fair chance they can, if it comes down to them being jobbed the way Seattle did then i don't want it and wont watch them. then there is the evil slimy piece of crap who runs the nba who makes me sick every time i see him speak.

    I would LOVE to see us get the Sonics back and a NHL team, just do it the right way and don't shaft other city's the way we got screwed.


    Sacramentos been dealing with this for 6 years. If that isn't fair, then what is? NBA has basically set up an embassy there to help. They've had their chance. This is the way the game is, we gotta okiedoke another city, they should be mad at the NBA not us.
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Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:15 pm
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  • Throwdown wrote:
    Msfann wrote:I don't want Sacramento to get railroaded the way Seattle did, i want to see them get every fair chance they can, if it comes down to them being jobbed the way Seattle did then i don't want it and wont watch them. then there is the evil slimy piece of crap who runs the nba who makes me sick every time i see him speak.

    I would LOVE to see us get the Sonics back and a NHL team, just do it the right way and don't shaft other city's the way we got screwed.


    Sacramentos been dealing with this for 6 years. If that isn't fair, then what is? NBA has basically set up an embassy there to help. They've had their chance. This is the way the game is, we gotta okiedoke another city, they should be mad at the NBA not us.


    Yea, they've been giving them mouth-to-mouth resuscitation for years, and have been met with nothing but apathy. Only now, when a move is imminent do they react. They've been more than fair to Sacramento.
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  • And Sacramento can drive less than an hour to Oakland and get their nba fix.
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  • Cool fair enough, I've ignored the nba since the Sonics left so I'm not really up to date on whats been going on.
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  • When the Sonics left I was out of state on some military training that required a lot of time and attention. That, combined with the fact that I have never really followed the NBA too closely, this is how I found out about the Sonics leaving:

    Me (looking at sports page basketball scores): Oklahoma City? They have a team now?

    Friend: Yeah, where have you been?

    Me: Wait, where are the Sonics?

    Friend: They moved to Oklahoma.

    Me: When?!

    Friend: Last season, dude.
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  • News about it today at two! Woohoo!
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Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 am
  • Sweet NBA/NHL. Hansen wants the NBA and will work to get it here.

    But once the arena is official, no matter the owner of the team, I'm thinking its a given that the NHL lands in Seattle - they'd almost force their way in. Seattle would balance the conference, have a natural rival, not be an outpost, theres an appetite for hockey as there is 5 or so WHL teams that succeed in the northwest.The NHL will jump at the chance to move a sunbelt team North. The players are from northern climates and would be happy in Seattle and fit right in the community with their off-ice class and shaggy beards.
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  • I miss the Sonics and GP is my all-time favorite NBA player but I miss them and was tore up about it more than anything because they were one of our teams, representing Seattle and the NW and they were our oldest pro team. I've never really been a big NBA fan, just followed because of the Sonics. I am much more into College Bball and the tourney, and mainly the tourney. So I'd be much more pumped about an NHL team when it comes down to it.
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Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:58 am
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    #NHL commish Gary Bettman: "There’s probably good potential for Seattle as a hockey market, but we are not looking to relocate ... (cont.)"

    Bettman, continued: " ... and we’re not looking to expand." He said that today to a group of Chicago reporters.

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Re: New NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:15 pm
  • "Report: AHL owner interested in bringing NHL to Seattle
    Mike Halford Feb 16, 2012, 2:35 PM EST

    David Shoalts of The Globe and Mail reports that Don Levin — owner of the AHL’s Chicago Wolves — has expressed interest in an NHL franchise for Seattle.

    Levin told Shoalts that if hedge-fund manager Chris Hansen is successful in building an arena in Seattle and bringing back an NBA team, he’d be willing to get involved on the NHL front."

    Rest of article:
    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012 ... o-seattle/
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  • Looks like Paul Allens cool with it.

    LETS FREAKIN GET IT!

    http://www.king5.com/sports/SeahawksSou ... 65253.html

    we love you paul! after the Blazers attempt to take the Seattle market it seems he knows that we aren't down with it.
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  • This is a great proposal - way better than I'd hoped! Awesome news for Seattle!
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  • 500M private funding, 200M from the public, which would be payed back in a self funded way. No new taxes. Thats the huge part IMO.
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  • Lets get this thing going!!!!
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  • I'm sure David Stern will find some way to screw this up for Seattle.
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  • Paul Allen on the subject:

    "It was a sad day when the Sonics left Seattle, a move I opposed. It’s exciting to think about the NBA coming back to Seattle and renewing the rivalry with the Portland Trail Blazers. However, it is too early for me to comment any further without a specific plan or proposal to review."


    Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Paul Allen on the subject:

    "It was a sad day when the Sonics left Seattle, a move I opposed. It’s exciting to think about the NBA coming back to Seattle and renewing the rivalry with the Portland Trail Blazers. However, it is too early for me to comment any further without a specific plan or proposal to review."


    Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D



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  • Smurf wrote:500M private funding, 200M from the public, which would be payed back in a self funded way. No new taxes. Thats the huge part IMO.


    Yea, that's big! All eventually privately funded, because the 200M from the public would be paid back in rent monies. This is as close to perfect as anyone could ever hope for with a stadium deal.
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  • Smurf wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Paul Allen on the subject:

    "It was a sad day when the Sonics left Seattle, a move I opposed. It’s exciting to think about the NBA coming back to Seattle and renewing the rivalry with the Portland Trail Blazers. However, it is too early for me to comment any further without a specific plan or proposal to review."


    Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D



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    My bad, I thought we were talking about real, grown up sports. :D

    In seriousness though, and not to derail this thread, but I tried getting into the MLS and the Timbers last year because i really enjoy international soccer, it lasted for about a month or two and then I grew bored with it.

    Different strokes for different folks i guess.
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  • On Thursday, the City of Seattle officially introduced the proposal it received for a new arena that would house both an NBA and NHL franchise.


    Link for more info:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2012/2/16/2 ... ises-first

    Not sure if someone has posted that already but its still exciting!!!
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  • Emily Heffter @EmilyHeffter
    Arena construction would not start until both an NBA and NHL team are acquired. It includes no new taxes.

    Is that accurate? That seems like a tall order to coordinate with two separate sports leagues when it's already tough enough to get a team, but to time it accordingly so this gets done seems tougher.
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  • it seems to me like they're just going to build it no matter what happens in Sactown. Even if the NHL comes first.
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  • pinksheets wrote:Emily Heffter @EmilyHeffter
    Arena construction would not start until both an NBA and NHL team are acquired. It includes no new taxes.

    Is that accurate? That seems like a tall order to coordinate with two separate sports leagues when it's already tough enough to get a team, but to time it accordingly so this gets done seems tougher.


    I keep hearing it's at least one.... who ever commits first (an NBA team or and NHL team), then construction begins. That does seem crazy difficult to try and coordinate acquiring both at the same time to pull off the arena plan.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Paul Allen on the subject:

    "It was a sad day when the Sonics left Seattle, a move I opposed. It’s exciting to think about the NBA coming back to Seattle and renewing the rivalry with the Portland Trail Blazers. However, it is too early for me to comment any further without a specific plan or proposal to review."


    Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D


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  • Tech Worlds wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Paul Allen on the subject:

    "It was a sad day when the Sonics left Seattle, a move I opposed. It’s exciting to think about the NBA coming back to Seattle and renewing the rivalry with the Portland Trail Blazers. However, it is too early for me to comment any further without a specific plan or proposal to review."


    Personally as a Portlander, and Oregonian, i'm hoping the NBA happens in Seattle (couldnt care less about the NHL). Its getting old having the Ducks, and to a lesser extent the Beavs, whoop up on the Huskies and Cougs all the time. We need another Seattle sport team we can whoop up on. :D


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    I wouldnt want, or expect it, any other way. Thats what makes rivalries fun. Hopefully they find a way to get the new Sonics into the Northwest division.
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  • 5 words for you blazer fans

    Sam Bowie and Greg Oden
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  • Throwdown wrote:5 words for you blazer fans

    Sam Bowie and Greg Oden


    :D

    Might as well throw Brandon Roy in the mix too. But I wont play this game til its signed, sealed and delivered that you have a new team.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
    Throwdown wrote:5 words for you blazer fans

    Sam Bowie and Greg Oden


    :D

    Might as well throw Brandon Roy in the mix too. But I wont play this game til its signed, sealed and delivered that you have a new team.


    lol I miss trash talking with Blazer fans, i can't help myself sometimes.
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  • Just curious, do the Huskies have a pretty nice on campus basketball arena or will they likely use the new arena as well?
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Just curious, do the Huskies have a pretty nice on campus basketball arena or will they likely use the new arena as well?


    Hec Ed just got renovated and is pretty nice (for a college arena).
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  • twisted_steel2 wrote:
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    Arena construction would not start until both an NBA and NHL team are acquired. It includes no new taxes.

    Is that accurate? That seems like a tall order to coordinate with two separate sports leagues when it's already tough enough to get a team, but to time it accordingly so this gets done seems tougher.


    I keep hearing it's at least one.... who ever commits first (an NBA team or and NHL team), then construction begins. That does seem crazy difficult to try and coordinate acquiring both at the same time to pull off the arena plan.

    Reports say that we need both NHL and NBA for them to break ground.

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  • Throwdown wrote:5 words for you blazer fans

    Sam Bowie and Greg Oden


    If you wanna talk smack at a blazer fan only 2 words are necessary: Raymond Felton.

    Geeesh, our starting point guard had more turnovers then points, rebounds and assists combined tonight. 0-7 shooting, 2 assists, 2 rebounds, 5 turnovers. He might be the worst player in the NBA this season and Nate refuses to bench him.
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  • So from what I understand from listening to a few sports talk radio shows with hosts I can't name, I'm feeling pretty optimistic.

    The consensus seems to be that there's probably a decent amount worked out behind the scenes with the NBA and NHL for things to have gotten to this point, as there's little chance they'd make a big spectacle like they did yesterday if things weren't looking very, very likely.

    Also, about having to secure two teams, it sounds like it's not as tough as I thought. We might not specifically get told 'the Coyotes are coming your way', but we could get an agreement that 'a team' will come to Seattle within a certain time frame and that should suffice.
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  • Another aspect of this that is noteworthy... All the talk you hear from both league's (NBA, NHL) leadership and different city officials all saying "this team is not leaving (insert city name here)", don't believe them. What else are they going to say? They can't say "Yeah, they're outta here". It's all BS. All that would do is incite hysteria from the fans in whatever city they said that about. They have to stay mum and tippy-toe around the issue, even if they know damn well they're going to relocate. So, when Stern says New Orleans is off the table, don't think for a second that it's true. He has to save face eventually and blame it on someone else.
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  • How else can you expect the NBA to leverage the city of Sacramento if they say that the Hornets are available.

    You can tell that Stern is lying when his lips move.
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  • Last year there was speculation that the Atlanta Thrashers were moving to Winnepeg. All throughout the last quarter of the season and thru the playoffs everyone involved denied it. Then as soon as the Cup was awarded the news came pouring out that the Jets were back and that it was a done deal for like the longest time. (I assume when the speculation started). This time last year it was rumoured that the league had prepared two schedules for 2011/12, one with Atlanta one with Winnipeg. This year there is no such rumours so I'd assume that it's either a done deal or a complete no go. I'd guess that it's a done deal.

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  • "However, TSN notes that the NHL might not be interested in leaving Atlanta just yet. "We've been working with local ownership for quite a long time now, in terms of trying to find a new local ownership in that market," NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN. "Luckily, that has gone largely under the radar screen, but the fact of the matter is that it has been transpiring. We believe what we say, which is that we're committed to the markets in which we put our franchises. We should make all reasonable efforts to keep franchises there."

    Sound familiar?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post ... nhl-353508
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  • Yoonhawk wrote:"However, TSN notes that the NHL might not be interested in leaving Atlanta just yet. "We've been working with local ownership for quite a long time now, in terms of trying to find a new local ownership in that market," NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN. "Luckily, that has gone largely under the radar screen, but the fact of the matter is that it has been transpiring. We believe what we say, which is that we're committed to the markets in which we put our franchises. We should make all reasonable efforts to keep franchises there."

    Sound familiar?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post ... nhl-353508


    Exactly what I was referring to. Total BS. They want the fans in these doomed cities to keep attending the games and spending their dollars while feeling reassured by statements like this that the league and government is "on their side". Pshaw! We've been there, done that, and know better.

    I believe that as far as this proposal has gone, the insiders on this deal already know what's going to transpire in the next couple years. We're just not privvy to it, and won't be until it actually happens. JMHO.
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  • Breaking news on the phoenix coyotes front. Paul Silvi just reported on King5 news that a guy name Greg Jamison has just been approved by the NHL to purchase the franchise. It is unclear if he intends to keep the team in Phoenix. I got the feeling that that's exactly what he intends to do. No panic though. After quite a bit of research, I've discovered that there are at least 5 NHL teams that could be had. Do your Google research, 'cause there ain't much as of this posting.
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