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Last night was a ton of fun. I sat with the guys from SonicsGate. If you watched the debate online, you likely heard us yelling a time or two. The atmosphere was cool. It was mostly pro-arena. Max Vekich and his wife were sitting up front and being loud and obnoxious. But other than them and a couple other Port people, it was mostly supportive. Cheers for Mike Salk ripping Tom Albro and Peter Steinbrueck. At times raucous jeers for Steinbrueck.

Mike Salk was on FIRE. Love that dude. He absolutely killed Albro and Steinbrueck on separate occasions. Steinbrueck was exactly what he is, a sniveling weasel playing his baseless fear-mongering game. Going off about how the deal was made in secret (which did nothing but set up Salk to call him out for his relationship with the Port and hidden discussions that took place prior. Albro was the politician he is, looking out for his company’s interests. Said a bunch of whatever. And Mike O’Brien really was great. Super cool, very smart. Played the role of peacemaker as opposed to Salk’s rabid bulldog. All in all, a good conversation, IMO. It once again hammered home the fact that the Port does nothing but repeat it's rhetoric and try to scare everyone. Salk and O'Brien were CLEARLY the two smartest guys on that panel, and it showed.

They took written questions from the audience. Was disappointed they only asked a couple. But got mine chosen. Brought up the fact that the Port gets about $75 million a year in public subsidy from property taxes, so why can’t the Port team with the city and Hansen on the needed infrastructure improvements. He went on to give a very political answer about how the Port already does that and looks out for the environment, blah blah. Mainly, I just wanted it reiterated that the Port gets public money, and them crying with their hand out constantly is disingenuous.

As for the moderators. I was split. I don't know their names. But I thought the guy did a fairly decent job being even-handed. The girl, Erica, I think, she was exactly what you said, Pink. Set up the Port to make their tired old claims, and put the hard questions on the pro guys. She said something ridiculous at one point about will people with strollers want to walk a mile to the arena. In actuality her stupid questions only set up Salk and O'Brien that much better. Like I said before, they were both on point. Felt really good about how they came off as opposed to Steinbrueck and Albro.

They’ll be posting the audio later. I suggest listening if you didn’t watch last night. It was a hoot.

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Last night was a ton of fun. I sat with the guys from SonicsGate. If you watched the debate online, you likely heard us yelling a time or two. The atmosphere was cool. It was mostly pro-arena. Max Vekich and his wife were sitting up front and being loud and obnoxious. But other than them and a couple other Port people, it was mostly supportive. Cheers for Mike Salk ripping Tom Albro and Peter Steinbrueck. At times raucous jeers for Steinbrueck.

Mike Salk was on FIRE. Love that dude. He absolutely killed Albro and Steinbrueck on separate occasions. Steinbrueck was exactly what he is, a sniveling weasel playing his baseless fear-mongering game. Going off about how the deal was made in secret (which did nothing but set up Salk to call him out for his relationship with the Port and hidden discussions that took place prior. Albro was the politician he is, looking out for his company’s interests. Said a bunch of whatever. And Mike O’Brien really was great. Super cool, very smart. Played the role of peacemaker as opposed to Salk’s rabid bulldog. All in all, a good conversation, IMO. It once again hammered home the fact that the Port does nothing but repeat it's rhetoric and try to scare everyone. Salk and O'Brien were CLEARLY the two smartest guys on that panel, and it showed.

They took written questions from the audience. Was disappointed they only asked a couple. But got mine chosen. Brought up the fact that the Port gets about $75 million a year in public subsidy from property taxes, so why can’t the Port team with the city and Hansen on the needed infrastructure improvements. He went on to give a very political answer about how the Port already does that and looks out for the environment, blah blah. Mainly, I just wanted it reiterated that the Port gets public money, and them crying with their hand out constantly is disingenuous.

As for the moderators. I was split. I don't know their names. But I thought the guy did a fairly decent job being even-handed. The girl, Erica, I think, she was exactly what you said, Pink. Set up the Port to make their tired old claims, and put the hard questions on the pro guys. She said something ridiculous at one point about will people with strollers want to walk a mile to the arena. In actuality her stupid questions only set up Salk and O'Brien that much better. Like I said before, they were both on point. Felt really good about how they came off as opposed to Steinbrueck and Albro.

They’ll be posting the audio later. I suggest listening if you didn’t watch last night. It was a hoot.


Thanks for the insight Seatown, you have really helped me through this process by breaking down all the happenings, it is greatly appreciated!

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No problem. My pleasure.

One thing I wanted to add to my comments above regarding the Publicola debate. Mike Salk said it on the radio today and I totally agree with him. Mike O’Brien was really impressive. He’s clearly a smart guy and understands all the complicated aspects of the deal, while also is able to explain them to people who don’t or are trying to sensationalize the facts. While Salk played the role of rabid bulldog, O’Brien was the peacemaker explaining the merit’s of the deal, along with the fact the city council is trying to make it a win-win. He was very cool and collected.

Which leads me to my point. When I first saw O’Brien’s name on the letter yesterday, I was bothered. He has been supportive up to this point. So why jump in on the big mean letter? O’Brien spoke with Sally Clark and Tim Burgess at the press conference yesterday regarding the letter. That to me was key in believing Clark and Burgess when they say they are trying to work towards a yes. O’Brien clearly is supportive on this. I just think he understands the reality of the situation. He’s doing everything he can to make sure his fellow council members do not follow Richard Conlin off to the dark side. By participating in the letter and working along side Burgess and Clark, he’s doing a lot to help the negotiations run smoothly and hopefully fairly, IMO. That’s the vibe I’m getting after hearing O’Brien speak at the debate last night. Sure hope I’m right. Because if Sally Clark and Tim Burgess are telling us the truth that they want to make this happen and are willing to be fair, I see absolutely no way this can’t and won’t pass.

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If passed, how long do you guys think it would take to construct the arena, ready for play?

Would it be using the Safeco garage for parking, or would another parking facility for the arena need to be built? Not sure how much real estate is involved is why I'm asking...

Hope this gets done!!! :th2thumbs:


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If passed, how long do you guys think it would take to construct the arena, ready for play?

Would it be using the Safeco garage for parking, or would another parking facility for the arena need to be built? Not sure how much real estate is involved is why I'm asking...

Hope this gets done!!! :th2thumbs:


It will take a couple years to build. Conventional wisdom is they'd have to play at Key Arena for a couple seasons. Not sure about how parking is going to work. Hansen's land is going to involve more than just an arena. Details not exactly known yet.

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Awesome recap Seatown! Thanks for keeping us informed! :)

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Awesome stuff. Love that we have so many vested Sonic fans on this board.

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Good news to go with the onslaught of stupidity from the anti-arena clownshoes. I get so irritated watching anything on this because it's such a great plan, well thought out, well proposed, and still the chuckleheads do everything they can to oppose it. They're like a bad movie villain, whose only role is to thwart and defeat the good guys by whatever means necessary, even if it means their very lives. Pathetic.

Also who's the muttonchopped dude in Sonics gear I keep seeing at all the meetings and on the news. The one that looks a little like Werewolf in London. He's hardcore Sonics, that's for sure! Anyone here?

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Good news to go with the onslaught of stupidity from the anti-arena clownshoes. I get so irritated watching anything on this because it's such a great plan, well thought out, well proposed, and still the chuckleheads do everything they can to oppose it. They're like a bad movie villain, whose only role is to thwart and defeat the good guys by whatever means necessary, even if it means their very lives. Pathetic.

Also who's the muttonchopped dude in Sonics gear I keep seeing at all the meetings and on the news. The one that looks a little like Werewolf in London. He's hardcore Sonics, that's for sure! Anyone here?

You talking about Sonics Guy? He's from Tacoma, but he's always at Sonics events in his fan gear. I ran the Sound to Narrows and he was there with a couple other Sonics fans waving his big Sonics flags and spreading the word.


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His name is Kris Brannon. He's a passionate dude.

There's a lot of others I've seen who have attended all of these rallies and meetings. It's really an incredible community effort and awesome seeing the fans come together. The rally at Pioneer Square was the most community pride I've felt since the Hawks went to the Super Bowl. Going to make all of this that much more special when it's all said and done.

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Lieutenant Dan wrote:
If passed, how long do you guys think it would take to construct the arena, ready for play?

Would it be using the Safeco garage for parking, or would another parking facility for the arena need to be built? Not sure how much real estate is involved is why I'm asking...

Hope this gets done!!! :th2thumbs:


It will take a couple years to build. Conventional wisdom is they'd have to play at Key Arena for a couple seasons. Not sure about how parking is going to work. Hansen's land is going to involve more than just an arena. Details not exactly known yet.

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THank you sir. I like that aerial shot; first time I ever noticed the skew of Safeco and it's roof, too :)

I'd suppose a parking garage would probably go with it, since the other two facilities have their own garages.


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Its actually an N, the compass is just positioned sideways.

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That's awesome!

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Still lots of work left to do with this thing. But I thought I'd share a message from Brian Robinson of Arena Solution:

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Feedback from staffers and others continues to indicate good faith negotiations and intention to work out reasonable compromise on this deal by members of city council. #proudofpolitics


Part of this is the honest vibe going around, part also Brian keeping pressure on the city council to continue to negotiate in good faith. But it's definitely good news. Lot's better than hearing scuttlebutt that things are heading the other direction. Here's to the momentum continuing!

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Can you guys hurry up and get this done already? I'm tired of seeing a new post in the sports forum, hoping to find something actually about sports to read and then just seeing another update on this thread (or even worse the "summer transfers soccer thread")!!

(For the record, as a portlander I do really really hope that Seattle gets a team back, i'm just tired of hearing about it and want it over already... as i'm sure you guys do too!)

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J, I couldn't agree more. You don't have an idea how sick I am of emailing/calling politicians and attending political hearings. I was hanging out with the guys who made SonicsGate the other night. We were talking about how it's been so long, that we nearly can't remember not having to do this stuff. All agreed that we can't wait to get together to attend games instead of all this crap. Ever since Clay Bennett bought the team, supporting the Sonics has been an entirely different ordeal. From Save Our Sonics to all this nonsense. It's worth it though. I'd have been doing the same if I was old enough back when the M's and Hawks both nearly moved. And sorry for the inconvenience. But you know that if this thread didn't exist, those silly soccer ones would just continue to dominate. What do you want, Duck threads? lol.

PS - Is it, "Win Fast, The Hard, Day Finish" or "Fast Win, Hard The, Finish Day"?

PPS - The first thing I think of when I read "Fast, Hard, Finish" isn't football. Especially when we're talking about college. ;)

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What do you want, Duck threads? lol.

PS - Is it, "Win Fast, The Hard, Day Finish" or "Fast Win, Hard The, Finish Day"?

PPS - The first thing I think of when I read "Fast, Hard, Finish" isn't football. Especially when we're talking about college. ;)


Yes. More Duck threads would make the masses happy! Really though, I do admire the work and passion you have for bringing an arena and the NBA back to town. I'm just sick of the politics of sports and wish there was more actual sports to talk about. One more month til football starts...

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What do you want, Duck threads? lol.

PS - Is it, "Win Fast, The Hard, Day Finish" or "Fast Win, Hard The, Finish Day"?

PPS - The first thing I think of when I read "Fast, Hard, Finish" isn't football. Especially when we're talking about college. ;)


Yes. More Duck threads would make the masses happy! Really though, I do admire the work and passion you have for bringing an arena and the NBA back to town. I'm just sick of the politics of sports and wish there was more actual sports to talk about. One more month til football starts...


Hey, it beats the endlessly circular threads that go on over at the main board. Jeez. Unless it's a players transaction or news breaking, I can't read anything over there. Yes, I can't wait to the season starts and there's actually things to comment about besides what people's preconceived opinions of players are.

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JUST IN: Investor Chris Hansen closes a deal on more land for his #SeattleArena project. Deal worth $5.58m, total land acquired now $40m+ -- Chris Daniels (@ChrisDaniels5)

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JUST IN: Investor Chris Hansen closes a deal on more land for his #SeattleArena project. Deal worth $5.58m, total land acquired now $40m+ -- Chris Daniels (@ChrisDaniels5)


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Mitch said on his show today that good progress is being made between Hansen ans the city. That Hansen is in town, and if all goes well, that an agreement could possibly come within a week!

This is crunch time, guys. EVERYONE who wants this needs to email and call all of the city council this week. Multiple times, if you can. It's the 4th qtr! Time to step up and close this out!

That includes you too, J. You can help end this thread!

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I just sent a new round of emails!

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The only problem with that Dom is that it means you never get a team. I want the Sonics to come back just to renew the rivalry with the Blazers. It will give us something to talk about other then the Ducks beating the Huskies and Cougs again. And again...

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The only problem with that Dom is that it means you never get a team. I want the Sonics to come back just to renew the rivalry with the Blazers. It will give us something to talk about other then the Ducks beating the Huskies and Cougs again. And again...


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The only problem with that Dom is that it means you never get a team. I want the Sonics to come back just to renew the rivalry with the Blazers. It will give us something to talk about other then the Ducks beating the Huskies and Cougs again. And again...


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You're missing my point. I'd be happy and excited to talk about Sonics basketball even if they're beating my beloved Blazers, because thats sports! I'd be perfectly happy with those threads going on forever, they'll be fun. The point of my earlier posts was that i'm tired of hearing about political deals, city councils, and all the other behind the scenes BS that is going on up there. I just wish that was over already and we could be talking about hoops.

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The only problem with that Dom is that it means you never get a team. I want the Sonics to come back just to renew the rivalry with the Blazers. It will give us something to talk about other then the Ducks beating the Huskies and Cougs again. And again...


Incorrect.

We need to keep this thread alive long after the Sonics return to their Blazer beating ways.

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You're missing my point. I'd be happy and excited to talk about Sonics basketball even if they're beating my beloved Blazers, because thats sports! I'd be perfectly happy with those threads going on forever, they'll be fun. The point of my earlier posts was that i'm tired of hearing about political deals, city councils, and all the other behind the scenes BS that is going on up there. I just wish that was over already and we could be talking about hoops.


I'm with you on this, I want to have fun already! I'm tired of getting my blood bubbling everytime something political happens with it. That and politics are just boring.

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The only problem with that Dom is that it means you never get a team. I want the Sonics to come back just to renew the rivalry with the Blazers. It will give us something to talk about other then the Ducks beating the Huskies and Cougs again. And again...


You're missing my point. I'd be happy and excited to talk about Sonics basketball even if they're beating my beloved Blazers, because thats sports! I'd be perfectly happy with those threads going on forever, they'll be fun. The point of my earlier posts was that i'm tired of hearing about political deals, city councils, and all the other behind the scenes BS that is going on up there. I just wish that was over already and we could be talking about hoops.


I'm with you on this, I want to have fun already! I'm tired of getting my blood bubbling everytime something political happens with it. That and politics are just boring.


Right there with you Throw, just get it done sooner rather than later.

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I e-mailed them. Not sure if it'll make a difference since i'm not a resident of the area, but I tried to do my part, for what it's worth.


What did you say? Just curious. You tell them what a boon the Thunder has been to the city?

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Politics isn't boring, you are getting the vanilla version in the media, just think how the behind the scenes and actual conversations are. I mean Boardwalk Empire, The Sopranos, Game of Thrones type conspiracies as well as the greed and what can I get out of it. Political Animals is another good one right now.

Reading between the lines on some of this crap and knowing that each one of the political parties involved has their hand out and then breaking that down to each politician.

Chris Hansen is the new kid on the block, they all want him to pay his dues for taking the headlines.

He will own or in partnership a large portion of real estate, a NBA franchise possible Hockey franchise. If you look at the weight Paul Allen has as well as Howard Lincoln in what happens in Seattle it's a substantial level of clout.

Once he has it that won't be easy to take away so all the politicians want their dues paid now.

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The only problem with that Dom is that it means you never get a team. I want the Sonics to come back just to renew the rivalry with the Blazers. It will give us something to talk about other then the Ducks beating the Huskies and Cougs again. And again...


Incorrect.

We need to keep this thread alive long after the Sonics return to their Blazer beating ways.

Just too much fun!

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You're missing my point. I'd be happy and excited to talk about Sonics basketball even if they're beating my beloved Blazers, because thats sports! I'd be perfectly happy with those threads going on forever, they'll be fun. The point of my earlier posts was that i'm tired of hearing about political deals, city councils, and all the other behind the scenes BS that is going on up there. I just wish that was over already and we could be talking about hoops.


I am not missing your point at all. I get it, you don't like all the biz aspects of sports. You don't have to read it.

I feel this is the most important thread of the year and once the Sonics are back it should be archived as one of the most important threads in the history of this message board.

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To go with what TW said, Seatown81 deserves a medal. Or a free beer. He has been a torch for this cause.

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IF this gets done at the soonest point possible... And if Hansen already has a handshake deal with the Maloofs... Is there any chance we see the Kings (Sonics) playing at the Key this next year?

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I e-mailed them. Not sure if it'll make a difference since i'm not a resident of the area, but I tried to do my part, for what it's worth.


What did you say? Just curious. You tell them what a boon the Thunder has been to the city?


I sent it from my work e-mail and I'm home now, but I basically said that I don't live in the city, but am a lifelong seahawks fan, and living in Oklahoma am a Thunder fan. I've gotten to see up close and personal how much it hurt the Sonics fans losing the team, and how they didn't deserve it. I let them know that I think it would not only be great for the city of Seattle, but for the NBA and the sport of basketball to have the Sonics back in Seattle. I finished up with a bit about how I believe Seattle to have some of sport's greatest fans, and how much this means to them and to future generations, and that I'm looking forward to a long and passionate rivalry between our two locales.

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I e-mailed them. Not sure if it'll make a difference since i'm not a resident of the area, but I tried to do my part, for what it's worth.


What did you say? Just curious. You tell them what a boon the Thunder has been to the city?


I sent it from my work e-mail and I'm home now, but I basically said that I don't live in the city, but am a lifelong seahawks fan, and living in Oklahoma am a Thunder fan. I've gotten to see up close and personal how much it hurt the Sonics fans losing the team, and how they didn't deserve it. I let them know that I think it would not only be great for the city of Seattle, but for the NBA and the sport of basketball to have the Sonics back in Seattle. I finished up with a bit about how I believe Seattle to have some of sport's greatest fans, and how much this means to them and to future generations, and that I'm looking forward to a long and passionate rivalry between our two locales.


Almost shed a tear...good man, Peaches. You didn't have to do it, but thanks for the support.


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I e-mailed them. Not sure if it'll make a difference since i'm not a resident of the area, but I tried to do my part, for what it's worth.


What did you say? Just curious. You tell them what a boon the Thunder has been to the city?


I sent it from my work e-mail and I'm home now, but I basically said that I don't live in the city, but am a lifelong seahawks fan, and living in Oklahoma am a Thunder fan. I've gotten to see up close and personal how much it hurt the Sonics fans losing the team, and how they didn't deserve it. I let them know that I think it would not only be great for the city of Seattle, but for the NBA and the sport of basketball to have the Sonics back in Seattle. I finished up with a bit about how I believe Seattle to have some of sport's greatest fans, and how much this means to them and to future generations, and that I'm looking forward to a long and passionate rivalry between our two locales.

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Man not much news lately....

There's actually been a lot going on lately, but it's been mostly kind of downer news so there probably hasn't been a lot of enthusiasm to talk about it. If you're not checking up on sonicscentral.com daily or following @sonicsarena @sonicsgate @chrisdaniels5 @brockandsalk @aaronq13fox on twitter, I'd recommend that as well.

Basically the news went from a lot of talk that the deal was going to get done very soon, talking about an actual SCC vote on the thing before the recess. Now that's looking unlikely, and the Port and other anti-arena sorts are throwing everything they can at it. The Port put out their own traffic study, but it didn't do anything to prove their case so they called it "unsatisfying" and basically are trying to delay the thing for "further study" which is basically their attempt to slow drain this thing to death, and it seems like Councilman Burgess might hold this thing up in committee and give the Port their wish. Max Vekich and the Save Our Sodo douches have intensified their smear campaign, and the Seattle Mariners have apparently officially lined up with that group, as their name was featured as an organization opposed to the arena location in their latest ad. Now today there's been a poll released that showed 52% of Seattle voters were opposed to using public bonding for the arena. The demographics of the poll did not represent the demographics of the city, but instead of registered voters which does make sense, however the questions were leading (it is a damn push poll after all) and the margin of error was over 5%, which means they can't even put together a push poll that statistically demonstrates that the majority of Seattle voters (which includes a heavy dose of old farts) are against this thing.

That's what's been going on. Don't get down, though, that's the worst thing we can do. Keep emailing, calling, fighting, and let's not give up or sit on our hands due to overconfidence. If this thing gets past the SCC, even if that means after their recess, I'd probably call the thing unstoppable. Even though both the city and county councils would vote on it again after SEPA and the EIS, I think it's unlikely anything major changes from then on out. I'm not as good as stirring up positive emotion in the crowd here as EJ, but let's just keep pushing until Sonics tickets are in our hands.


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I don’t know if Seahawk fans would be much different.Sounders fans surely don’t give much of a crap about us.



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