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Yeah, if everything hinges on just the Kings then you can kiss this wish goodbye. Man.....always getting my hopes just to have them smashed later........

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Well Rick Bucher of ESPN believes we have a pretty good shot at the Kings. Listen to his comments in this interview.

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Man... Talk about a rollercoaster of emotions for me. I LOVE basketball with all I got, been my favorite sport since forever, and the sonics were the main reason. I just don't want to get excited like this for nothing. Everyones saying the right things, but we ultimately don't control the outcome of the situation.

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Man... Talk about a rollercoaster of emotions for me. I LOVE basketball with all I got, been my favorite sport since forever, and the sonics were the main reason. I just don't want to get excited like this for nothing. Everyones saying the right things, but we ultimately don't control the outcome of the situation.


Well whatever you do, do not listen to this interview with Bruce Harrell of the Seattle City Council. He was on with Softy today. And pretty much said that no public money would be asked of if this current deal that's being talked about were to go through.

http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/player/?s ... d=21806182

The biggest and main thing holding me back from getting too excited about all this talk has been the fear of a great deal being presented that asked for an incredibly minor public contribution. And that it would almost assuredly get shot down by the public. The political climate here currently would never in a million years approve of spending a dime. They wouldn't even allow current Safeco or Qwest taxes to be used. It's a non-starter.

So I hear a city council member go on the radio and state that this deal if everything works out, is only going to ask of the city to make minor infrastructure investments along with other small things. Man. I am trying REALLY hard not to get excited. REALLY HARD.

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One thing I forgot to mention in my last post. Bruce Harrell is an admitted sports fan. He played football at UW. It's still encouraging hearing him say "I will be surprised and disappointed if this doesn't go through," but it's understandable if he's one of the more enthusiastic council members.

Now as for less than sports fan friendly city council members. Every fan's favorite pal, Nick "The NBA adds ZERO cultural impact on the city" Licata is going to be on with Ian Furness on KJR coming up in the next our. Should be interesting to say the very least.

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One thing I forgot to mention in my last post. Bruce Harrell is an admitted sports fan. He played football at UW. It's still encouraging hearing him say "I will be surprised and disappointed if this doesn't go through," but it's understandable if he's one of the more enthusiastic council members.

Now as for less than sports fan friendly city council members. Every fan's favorite pal, Nick "The NBA adds ZERO cultural impact on the city" Licata is going to be on with Ian Furness on KJR coming up in the next our. Should be interesting to say the very least.


I'm gonna have to listen to Mr. I Hate anything fun haha

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and I listened to the Bruce Harrell interview...

I hate this moment in time... stuff gets me excited and now tomorrow something is going to happen to keep it from happening.

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We're not realistically going to hear anything until after the season, I would assume?


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we'll know A LOT on March 1st. Right now from what we're hearing Sacramento City leadership might be falling apart at the wrong time. They have to have a proposal ready by the 1st, if they don't? the team is outta there and either on its way here, or anaheim, kansas city, or Louisville. Hopefully they'd become the Sonics and I can get my ass ready to buy some ticket packages.

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Whoever this Jean Godden creature is, shes...kind of...stupid? worried about traffic? 3 events on day? c'mon man! Has this thing ever heard of sports and why they have seasons? doesn't the world series (not like i'm counting on that happening anytime soon) end nicely before the NBA season kicks off? Seahawks and Sounders share a venue, Sonics and the NHL team would share the venue so they'd have something worked out, max there'd be two events going on twice in one day.

Example: Seahawks at 1pm to 4pm and then there would be a 3 hour period of nothing and the Sonics/NBA would start at 7 and let out around 9-10.

Why would this lady erm..thing say something so damn stupid?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... cmpid=2727

Kevin Johnson cancelled an announcement on the Sactown arena

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Yeah, the NBA/NHL barely overlap with baseball. And the NFL only brings 10 home dates a year. Not exactly hard to schedule around.

Drives me nuts when people so openly ignore the facts. Some people are just looking for negatives.

Let's hope the city council members are only doing their due diligence and will give the thing a fair shake when they get all the details.

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I have more faith in the private sector making a splash than local government attempting to draw up a plan.

Let's be honest, support for funding a sports arena with public money is a political death sentence nowadays. as passionate as we are as sports fans, we are a minority voter presence.

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Jean Godden used to be a columnist for either the Seattle Times or The PI, I can't remember which. As an avid newspaper reader, I usually read her columns, and repeatedly slapped my forehead over her complete ignorance of anything past the 1960's. She's an old biddy that only got elected because of name familiarity. I bet the only sport she ever watched was her grandson playing T-ball and gushing "Ohhh...isn't that so cute!". She's a small-minded, goody-two-shoes idiot... at least that's always been my impression. She's the type that wouldn't want a penny spent on anything pro sports, but would raid the coffers over a new opera house or Art Museum. That's all you gotta know about that worthless bitch.

But back to the Kings thing. Don't write it off quite yet. I listen to Kiro radio at work in my headsets after Bob Rivers signs off, and both the Dave Ross show and Dori Monson have spent time every day this week talking to people about this deal. First, if I lived in Sacramento and was a Kings fan, I would be very nervous right now. They need to get a deal done by March 1st, and it's not looking all that great for them. They even cancelled a presser about the deal, covering up and walking off with drawings they had for a new arena. That can't be good.. for them. The current owners are practically broke, and they want to sell. They also owe the city millions. The city has 11% unemployment. This is gonna be a tough sell for the Mayor. All the insiders on this thing, that are talking at least, are giving it at least a 50/50 chance of happening. And I really believe there are some back-room dealings going on. Why the hell would this invester actually BUY the property south of Safeco Field if he wasn't pretty damn sure something was gonna happen? My gut says that after March 1st, Sonics fans are gonna be happy. We just have to be patient and wait 'till March 1st. Everything should fall into place at that time...........hopefully. So don't give up quite yet Blitzer. I'm not gonna give up hope until the word is officially given that we've been f'd again.

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Honestly, I feel bad for Kings fans. But I wouldn't feel bad for taking the Kings. They have no control over whats happening at all and according to some figures the odds just dont look good at all, no matter how positive Mayor Kevin Johnson sounds. Anytime you ask the NBA for 80 million up front for a new arena, you're asking for problems. They don't want to pay for the Maloofs, they've already bailed them out once. So I'm hoping it doesn't happen lol, call me a jerk, I don't care! I want some NBA 'round this bishhh!

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Watching the Blazers playing in New Orleans tonight it looks lik their arena is about 1/4 full, if that. Personally I think they're more likely to relocate then Sacramento which has traditionally been a pretty good basketball city.

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I don't give a rip what Sac thinks. We were boned so hard that I don't feel sorry for any other city after what Stern/Schultz/Bennett did to our awesome, storied NBA city. To me, there is a HUGE difference between stealing a team from a city with a lesser and kinda weak NBA history (Sac) to a city with a longer and more respected history that was unjustly robbed (Sonics), to a bunch of scrubs ripping a team from a city with deep roots and history (us) to a city with NO NBA history (Oklahoma).

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Watching the Blazers playing in New Orleans tonight it looks lik their arena is about 1/4 full, if that. Personally I think they're more likely to relocate then Sacramento which has traditionally been a pretty good basketball city.


From what I've heard, the NBA has commited to keeping the Hornets in N.O. I've heard that option is completely off the table, unfortunately.

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Watching the Blazers playing in New Orleans tonight it looks lik their arena is about 1/4 full, if that. Personally I think they're more likely to relocate then Sacramento which has traditionally been a pretty good basketball city.


The New Orleans Hornets seem like the logical candidate, but the NBA wants to save that market. The Katrina tragedy appears to be the motivating factor. The league is probably concerned about bad press if they leave the area. The former owner Shinn had made a mess of things there after being allowed to leave Charlotte. Aren't they good until 2014?

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Jean Godden used to be a columnist for either the Seattle Times or The PI, I can't remember which. As an avid newspaper reader, I usually read her columns, and repeatedly slapped my forehead over her complete ignorance of anything past the 1960's. She's an old biddy that only got elected because of name familiarity. I bet the only sport she ever watched was her grandson playing T-ball and gushing "Ohhh...isn't that so cute!". She's a small-minded, goody-two-shoes idiot... at least that's always been my impression. She's the type that wouldn't want a penny spent on anything pro sports, but would raid the coffers over a new opera house or Art Museum. That's all you gotta know about that worthless bitch.

But back to the Kings thing. Don't write it off quite yet. I listen to Kiro radio at work in my headsets after Bob Rivers signs off, and both the Dave Ross show and Dori Monson have spent time every day this week talking to people about this deal. First, if I lived in Sacramento and was a Kings fan, I would be very nervous right now. They need to get a deal done by March 1st, and it's not looking all that great for them. They even cancelled a presser about the deal, covering up and walking off with drawings they had for a new arena. That can't be good.. for them. The current owners are practically broke, and they want to sell. They also owe the city millions. The city has 11% unemployment. This is gonna be a tough sell for the Mayor. All the insiders on this thing, that are talking at least, are giving it at least a 50/50 chance of happening. And I really believe there are some back-room dealings going on. Why the hell would this invester actually BUY the property south of Safeco Field if he wasn't pretty damn sure something was gonna happen? My gut says that after March 1st, Sonics fans are gonna be happy. We just have to be patient and wait 'till March 1st. Everything should fall into place at that time...........hopefully. So don't give up quite yet Blitzer. I'm not gonna give up hope until the word is officially given that we've been f'd again.


Man I wish I have you positiveness lol. I really really want this to happen as I don't my heart broken again.

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Watching the Blazers playing in New Orleans tonight it looks lik their arena is about 1/4 full, if that. Personally I think they're more likely to relocate then Sacramento which has traditionally been a pretty good basketball city.


I don't get it. My whole thing is if you know your team is in trouble, specifically due to the fact that the attendence for the Hornets is crap and if they're all up in arms about the idea that their team could leave wouldn't they show up?

Hell in seattle attendence wasn't the issue and we showed up even for a lame duck season.

That being said, I don't care who it is that comes here. Kings, Hornets, Bucks, Pacers, Bobcats I got no problem being home to a franchise that cant function properly in the town they are in. I'll feel bad for the fans, but I want their team.

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Watching the Blazers playing in New Orleans tonight it looks lik their arena is about 1/4 full, if that. Personally I think they're more likely to relocate then Sacramento which has traditionally been a pretty good basketball city.


From what I've heard, the NBA has commited to keeping the Hornets in N.O. I've heard that option is completely off the table, unfortunately.


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Who cares if they suck, I just want my dang sonics back.

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Who cares if they suck, I just want my dang sonics back.


Pretty much, but if we got the Kings we got a team whose closer to being better.

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It doesn't matter how bad they suck now, we just need a franchise. Any franchise. Then we slap the Sonics name on 'em, install our own new front office and players over a few years and it's a completely different team.... hopefully a good one. The most important piece of the pie, of course, is how good/rich our new owner(s) would be. Pray we don't get some cheap penny-pincher that has no commitment to winning a championship and only cares about being profitable. If that happens, they may as well have stayed gone to me, 'cause I wouldn't be watching them.

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I dunno bout all that, if we got the Kings I'd love to keep Tyreke Evans and Demarcus Cousins. Jimmer and Isaiah I could live without.

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First and foremost let me get this out of the way, having a basketball team is in no way shape or form ever going to make up for the impact of Hurricane Katrina upon the city of New Orleans, the State of Louisiana and the entire southeastern United States. Don't get me wrong it is a beautiful thing for the people of New Orleans to have sports to entertain them and for them to lose themselves in other activities to reduce the levity of such a catastrophic event. BUT they don't even go to the games anymore and the Saints run that city and always have. That Superbowl win was the sporting equivalent of their return from Katrina and helped generate a lot of pride for the area. Not that a Superbowl will ever fix any of the problems that were created during that storm but its a nice reprieve.

Ok now it is just a farce that they still have a team and get the carte blanche treatment from the NBA and David Stern in regards to their struggling interest and support of their team. Its really a sad joke, nobody wants to invest in the team anymore because it is regarded as a lost cause until somebody comes up with hundreds of millions dollars to purchase them. The local economy has other fish to fry and more important issues to deal with than a faltering basketball team which never found its place in the city upon its return from Charlotte. That is another point of contention for me, George Shinn's stupid ass should have never been able to move the team from North Carolina and Stern definitely did not need to put the Bobcats in Duke/UNC/WOLFPACK country when expansion talks were underway. They are smart basketball fans in N.C and won't buy into a poorly run team even if Micheal Jordan is still riding his NCAA championship goodwill in the state (i know he is also from there...big deal). Guy guts the team every ten days to extract a better profit margin when he is a kajillionaire.

Anyway, the city of Seattle deserves a team because the fans bleed green and gold, N.O not so much. Stern can't take another public relations hit before he retires (lockouts, relocation's, poor decisions blocking the Chris Paul trade etc...) so this is probably going to die on the table if N.O is the target. Like it was previously stated, we should get Sacramento because the Maloofs are poor and won't be bailed out a second time by the NBA. Christoper Hansen (sp?) would spend to put a team out there to compete or this entire process is a moot point. I don't think he would invest in the location for the stadium and pressure the NBA in conjunction with the city officials of Seattle if he just wanted to make money. He could start other business ventures much more easily. This is about him becoming a local hero like Paul Allen by resurrecting the Sonics and making them relevant again in American Sporting Culture. If this guy gets the team, we are going to kick ass and take names. Money will be spent and he will get all the support he needs from the fans in a similar vein. :th2thumbs:


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First and foremost let me get this out of the way, having a basketball team is in no way shape or form ever going to make up for the impact of Hurricane Katrina upon the city of New Orleans, the State of Louisiana and the entire southeastern United States. Don't get me wrong it is a beautiful thing for the people of New Orleans to have sports to entertain them and for them to lose themselves in other activities to reduce the levity of such a catastrophic event. BUT they don't even go to the games anymore and the Saints run that city and always have. That Superbowl win was the sporting equivalent of their return from Katrina and helped generate a lot of pride for the area. Not that a Superbowl will ever fix any of the problems that were created during that storm but its a nice reprieve.

Ok now it is just a farce that they still have a team and get the carte blanche treatment from the NBA and David Stern in regards to their struggling interest and support of their team. Its really a sad joke, nobody wants to invest in the team anymore because it is regarded as a lost cause until somebody comes up with hundreds of millions dollars to purchase them. The local economy has other fish to fry and more important issues to deal with than a faltering basketball team which never found its place in the city upon its return from Charlotte. That is another point of contention for me, George Shinn's stupid ass should have never been able to move the team from North Carolina and Stern definitely did not need to put the Bobcats in Duke/UNC/WOLFPACK country when expansion talks were underway. They are smart basketball fans in N.C and won't buy into a poorly run team even if Micheal Jordan is still riding his NCAA championship goodwill in the state (i know he is also from there...big deal). Guy guts the team every ten days to extract a better profit margin when he is a kajillionaire.

Anyway, the city of Seattle deserves a team because the fans bleed green and gold, N.O not so much. Stern can't take another public relations hit before he retires (lockouts, relocation's, poor decisions blocking the Chris Paul trade etc...) so this is probably going to die on the table if N.O is the target. Like it was previously stated, we should get Sacramento because the Maloofs are poor and won't be bailed out a second time by the NBA. Christoper Hansen (sp?) would spend to put a team out there to compete or this entire process is a moot point. I don't think he would invest in the location for the stadium and pressure the NBA in conjunction with the city officials of Seattle if he just wanted to make money. He could start other business ventures much more easily. This is about him becoming a local hero like Paul Allen by resurrecting the Sonics and making them relevant again in American Sporting Culture. If this guy gets the team, we are going to kick ass and take names. Money will be spent and he will get all the support he needs from the fans in a similar vein. :th2thumbs:


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Just curious, is it a 100% certainty that when you get a new team they'll automatically be the Sonics again?

Its hard to put myself in your position as a sports fan but i was thinking if the Blazers left, leaving a really bad taste in my mouth, then the NBA moved another team back in a couple of years that I would want to start over with a brand new franchise rather then just revert back to the Blazers again.

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Just curious, is it a 100% certainty that when you get a new team they'll automatically be the Sonics again?

Its hard to put myself in your position as a sports fan but i was thinking if the Blazers left, leaving a really bad taste in my mouth, then the NBA moved another team back in a couple of years that I would want to start over with a brand new franchise rather then just revert back to the Blazers again.


I mean is possible, but the name and colors were left here for the possibility of a franchise returning.

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Just curious, is it a 100% certainty that when you get a new team they'll automatically be the Sonics again?

Its hard to put myself in your position as a sports fan but i was thinking if the Blazers left, leaving a really bad taste in my mouth, then the NBA moved another team back in a couple of years that I would want to start over with a brand new franchise rather then just revert back to the Blazers again.


I have to strongly disagree on this one, J. I'm of the mind that if a new team is not renamed the SuperSonics, I would have a much harder time getting back on board with the league. I grew up a Sonics fan. I have very little interest in getting back in the NBA just to pretend none of that past happened. In fact, having a new named team will do nothing but constantly remind us what happened.

The Seattle SuperSonics were our team for 40 years. Just because we got screwed over by Clay Bennett and Stern doesn't change any of that. If we were to get a team back in town, all it is, in my mind, is rightfully returning what was taken from us. And what was taken was our Supes. I want to be Cleveland getting back the Browns, or Winnipeg getting back the Jets. I don't want to be Houston losing the Oilers, and pretending to rather have their team called the Texans.

Not to mention the name SuperSonics is one of the best in pro sports. I've always loved that all of our teams in Seattle have unique team names that have connections to the city. I've traveled in lots of foreign countries. When I've met locals and told them where I'm from in the US, you want to know the two main responses? "Nirvana" and "Seattle SuperSonics".

If Seattle were to get a new NBA team and it's called anything but the Seattle SuperSonics, it's a constant reminder of what Clay Bennett came and took away. Screw that.

As for the particulars. Clay Bennett technically owns the name and history. There was some weird contractual language about who would own what in the future given the league returning to Seattle. But if Seattle were to ever get a team, I see absolutely no reason he wouldn't give it back. OKC has no need or use for it. If I were a Thunder fan, I wouldn't want anything to do with it. It would only remind people of what happened and take away from their current team that is their own. It's the least Bennett, along with Stern, could do.

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SeaTown, it was always my understanding that Clay Bennet had no interest in our name or history. I thought that he just wanted the franchise and left everything Sonics back in Seattle. It never occured to me that if we obtained another team it would be called anything other than the Sonics. And I say "Sonics" because several years ago they dropped the "Super", which pissed me off. I liked when the team was being announced and he'd yell SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUperSONICS!!! But yeah, if we get another team, anything other than Sonics is completely unacceptable, and I'm sure every fan in the city will let them know about it if they try to do something differently.

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The only thing that OKC will keep is the "shared history" and the '79 trophy. Seattle retains the right to the team name if/when we get a franchise.

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The only thing that OKC will keep is the "shared history" and the '79 trophy. Seattle retains the right to the team name if/when we get a franchise.


Wait... They get to share the f'n '79 trophy?? And the history?? Wha...How... They had absolutely zero connection with the Seattle Supersonics in 1979. I bet 95% of the population of OK had no idea we even won the Championship that year. That's BS! I sure hope you're wrong on that one sammy. That trophy is OURS, and OURS ONLY! God... now I'm all pissed. I've gotta do some research.

Their city has NEVER WON AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP! ARGHHHHH!!!!

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First and foremost let me get this out of the way, having a basketball team is in no way shape or form ever going to make up for the impact of Hurricane Katrina upon the city of New Orleans, the State of Louisiana and the entire southeastern United States. Don't get me wrong it is a beautiful thing for the people of New Orleans to have sports to entertain them and for them to lose themselves in other activities to reduce the levity of such a catastrophic event. BUT they don't even go to the games anymore and the Saints run that city and always have. That Superbowl win was the sporting equivalent of their return from Katrina and helped generate a lot of pride for the area. Not that a Superbowl will ever fix any of the problems that were created during that storm but its a nice reprieve.

Ok now it is just a farce that they still have a team and get the carte blanche treatment from the NBA and David Stern in regards to their struggling interest and support of their team. Its really a sad joke, nobody wants to invest in the team anymore because it is regarded as a lost cause until somebody comes up with hundreds of millions dollars to purchase them. The local economy has other fish to fry and more important issues to deal with than a faltering basketball team which never found its place in the city upon its return from Charlotte. That is another point of contention for me, George Shinn's stupid ass should have never been able to move the team from North Carolina and Stern definitely did not need to put the Bobcats in Duke/UNC/WOLFPACK country when expansion talks were underway. They are smart basketball fans in N.C and won't buy into a poorly run team even if Micheal Jordan is still riding his NCAA championship goodwill in the state (i know he is also from there...big deal). Guy guts the team every ten days to extract a better profit margin when he is a kajillionaire.

Anyway, the city of Seattle deserves a team because the fans bleed green and gold, N.O not so much. Stern can't take another public relations hit before he retires (lockouts, relocation's, poor decisions blocking the Chris Paul trade etc...) so this is probably going to die on the table if N.O is the target. Like it was previously stated, we should get Sacramento because the Maloofs are poor and won't be bailed out a second time by the NBA. Christoper Hansen (sp?) would spend to put a team out there to compete or this entire process is a moot point. I don't think he would invest in the location for the stadium and pressure the NBA in conjunction with the city officials of Seattle if he just wanted to make money. He could start other business ventures much more easily. This is about him becoming a local hero like Paul Allen by resurrecting the Sonics and making them relevant again in American Sporting Culture. If this guy gets the team, we are going to kick ass and take names. Money will be spent and he will get all the support he needs from the fans in a similar vein. :th2thumbs:


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The only thing that OKC will keep is the "shared history" and the '79 trophy. Seattle retains the right to the team name if/when we get a franchise.


Wait... They get to share the f'n '79 trophy?? And the history?? Wha...How... They had absolutely zero connection with the Seattle Supersonics in 1979. I bet 95% of the population of OK had no idea we even won the Championship that year. That's BS! I sure hope you're wrong on that one sammy. That trophy is OURS, and OURS ONLY! God... now I'm all pissed. I've gotta do some research.

Their city has NEVER WON AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP! ARGHHHHH!!!!

I'm writing Steve Kelley with that question. He's a roundball junkie, and pretty good about writing back for a big newspaper columnist.

Speaking of Steve Kelley, here's a new article related to this thread.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/s ... ley12.html


They have all the championship banners and the 79 trophy. I agree it's complete and total BS, they didn't earn those, Seattle did.


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Cant we lobby the NBA to get the history to be exlusively ours again?

OKC fans don't want that stuff, they don't care about it. To them they started in 2008. I thought the trophy, jerseys and banners were somewhere in storage in Seattle? just not on display in a museum because of the situation?

Atleast thats what those Sonicsgate guys say.

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The only thing that OKC will keep is the "shared history" and the '79 trophy. Seattle retains the right to the team name if/when we get a franchise.


I don't believe OKC keeps the '79 trophy, they get to "borrow" it at times sounds like to me. As far as the shared history goes, I am thinking when we have the Sonics back playing here again that OKC will be less inclined to "share" that history with a team that exists, even though they may legally do so.

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I liked when the team was being announced and he'd yell SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUperSONICS!!!


Gave me goosebumps every time. They had the most electric pregame intros at the time. Pissed me off when they dropped the "super" as well.

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Man...the more and more I look into this situation, the less and less confident I am that we will get either an NHL or NBA team. I mean just listening to Paul Silvi's Northwest Sports Tonight, he said that he doubts that any team will come to Seattle.

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Too many "if's" in this scenario.

Case-in-point, the NBA/NHL is entirely attracted to the idea that we build a new arena. If that means a new arena in Sacramento, Seattle, or Anaheim neither league cares where as long as it's fancy and new.

I have no problem with any local analyst being a realist when it comes to the likelihood of the NBA/NHL coming to Seattle. Everyone's made it perfectly clear, only if/when an arena is going to be built will either league come.

What really amazing and confusing at the same time is that the league will make more of its money off TV contracts than it will with any revenue created from the arena... but that never stopped the NBA from building its league on a shakey foundation.

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Shaddup!

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/13/426061 ... -keep.html

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/13/426148 ... oping.html

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/13/426148 ... kings.html

Piss off Sac. We were screwed, now it's your turn (hopefully). If you do lose your team to Seattle, wait 4 years, then find a rich guy to bring your Kings back. Deal with it. I'm sure we have no intention of bringing anything Kings back with us. Why would we want to?

And I vehomently disagree with this guys post.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059 ... itys-heart

If we get the Kings, and they are rebranded the Sonics with history intact, I would look at it as a 4 year break. As far as I would be concerned they would be the Sonics, especially after we retooled the franchise in our own image. I guess expansion would be preferred, especially with all the high draft picks, but after a few seasons most people won't give it a second thought, IMO.

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Someone needs to ask sactown how they got the kings in the first place

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Someone needs to ask sactown how they got the kings in the first place


Excellent point... I'm sure there's a fan or two left in Kansas City still pissed at Sacramento...

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I've got a prediction for you guys. If the Sonics return next season Nate McMillan will be their head coach. Which would be kind of cool to have Mr. Sonic back along with the NBA in Seattle.

His contract is up at the end of this season and the way the Blazers have been playing the last month I dont see him coming back unless they really can turn things around.

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Man... I wish mac10 didn't leave in the first place. It was nothing but bad things after he left for Portland. Of course Howard Shultz ran him out like he did Payton.

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Man as each passing day goes along, I keep hearing and reading that our chances of getting a team are getting lower and lower. Man and I got my hopes all up, just like I tried not to do.

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The vote that passed really isn't anything just gives them the ok the sell those parking areas. From what I hear its still a long way for sactown to go before anythings ok'd about a new arena for sacramento. They still need the nba to fit an $80 million bill, do you really think they'd do that? When they wouldn't put in $50 million here for a new arena?

NBA already bailed the Maloofs out once, I don't expect that to happen again, not at that price atleast.

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From what I've been hearing on Seattle news radio, even if they pass the parking thing, there's still roughly $150 million that hasn't been accounted for. They are still short that amount. I think they're waiting for a knight in shining armor to show up with the cash, but given the state of the economy down there, there will be an uproar if the city even thinks about raiding the coffers to pay for it. I'm still banking on a 50/50 chance, and I'm still optimistic. Sac is rapidly running out of time. Oh, and of maybe bigger concern is that there is no guarantee that the team would go to Seattle if the stars do align. Anaheim is still a strong contender... Which is frickin' ridiculous since that'd put 3 NBA teams in a 50 mile radius, as was mentioned earlier. STUPID! I'm sure most NBA fans in Anaheim are already Lakers or Clippers fans, and the Kings would be doomed to failure there. Like I said earlier, why in the hell would they choose to do that over a hungry fanbase up here in the 12th largest TV market? :229031_banghead:

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