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I knew it, I knew it.........just when I get my hopes up for a team returning to Seattle my hopes get stomped on.....

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I'm pissedified...

I like how the people in Sacramento get chance after chance after chance AFTER CHANCE!

But when it came to Seattle where was the same courtesy? hell we didn't even get ONE chance.

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Hornets are reportedly about to be sold locally with a long-term lease as well. At that point we're probably talking at least a couple years before another team is really on the verge of relocation and interest in the arena project could very well have faded by then.


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Hate to say it but good for Sacramento. I don't want to see teams leave unless the city let's them. Obviously there is enough interest there to keep them.

We shouldn't focus on them. Our first step is to get the arena deal done. Once that is in place then we can focus on getting a team.

If Sacramento doesn't get the arena funded then we will be ready to roll. If they do then I am sure we will look very appealing to another struggling franchise.

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Tech, by getting the deal done do you mean getting the OK from the 'arena board' or whatever they're called?


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Tech, by getting the deal done do you mean getting the OK from the 'arena board' or whatever they're called?


We have to to have the go ahead from the city and the county before they will issue the $200 million in bonds. Now that won't happen, the issuing of the bonds, until a team is secured but we have to at least get them to agree to issue them.

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We shouldn't focus on them. Our first step is to get the arena deal done. Once that is in place then we can focus on getting a team.

If Sacramento doesn't get the arena funded then we will be ready to roll. If they do then I am sure we will look very appealing to another struggling franchise.


PRECISELY!

And for the record. Nothing is settled in Sacramento or Phoenix. Until it is, it's all media masturbation and mediots jumping the gun. Reports in both cases say there are still final hurdles that remain.

And like Tech says. Even if those places work their stuff out, and good for them on it, none of it matters if we don't get our crap in order and taken care of. That is what matters. We get our arena deal approved and ready to go, things will eventually work themselves out. Maybe not as quickly as we'd all like. But they will. They won't if our local government drops the ball and blows the deal or let's nonsense get in the way.

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I dunno man. Everything I've been hearing on local news radio has been so negative. They were basically saying how fans in Sac, N.O. and Phoenix are saying "Thank you SO much Seattle for lighting a fire under our local government and teams to get something done!". And that is exactly what it looks like. Pisses me off. We had a blueprint from the A-hole in OK on how to stealth-steal a team, and we didn't follow it. We should have had local interest look like they wanted to buy the team to keep it in X city, then let the team suck, get the attendance down, then move 'em on out! All we did was invigorate the locals with our slavering over their teams. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. I still have a whiff of optimism, but it seems to fade a little more each day.

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In this climate political change coming people will say yes and no at the same time. Kevin Johnson I would think will use every favor he has on the NBA side to get as much room as possible to allow the political engine to work,having Stern on his side vs our situation where Nickels was a butting heads with him makes for a whole different playing field.

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Why does Kevin Durant make it so hard to hate him? I want to so bad but the dude says right stuff all the time...

http://www.king5.com/sports/Durant-on-S ... 83643.html

Hate that team though, we don't know have no conections to the other clowns on that squad.

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i officially do not believe anything that Stern is talking about right now regarding ANYTHING!

Hornets able to move to Anaheim huh?

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i officially do not believe anything that Stern is talking about right now regarding ANYTHING!

Hornets able to move to Anaheim huh?

http://www.ocbj.com/news/2012/feb/24/oc ... w-orleans/


Wow........just smh.

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i officially do not believe anything that Stern is talking about right now regarding ANYTHING!

Hornets able to move to Anaheim huh?

http://www.ocbj.com/news/2012/feb/24/oc ... w-orleans/


That would make 5 teams in California, with 3 in L.A..... And not even one in the entire state of Washington? WTF is wrong with the idiots running this league? Seriously. I hope Stern has a severe (and painful) myocardial infarction (I know, it's only sports, but I really hate the guy). Why does he hate Seattle so much? His personal bias against our great city is costing the whole league money from not tapping the 12th largest market in the U.S. He's just such an idiot! :229031_banghead:

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Where in that article does it say anything about the team moving to Anaheim?

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But I guess Hanson has met with Stern about 2 weeks ago. Just reading through the Sonicsgate twitter.

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Word is Kevin Johnson, the Maloofs, and the NBA have worked out an arena deal. Before everyone freaks out and thinks that ends things (as is already taking place around the internet, of course), this was always going to happen> KJ didn't go down there to not come up with an agreement to present the Sacramento city council. Keep in mind this is no more a done deal than the arena proposal in Seattle. As of now, it's just a proposed plan. The city council still has to review the deal and vote on it.

For all we know they might say no to selling the city's parking, which the entire deal centers around. Not to mention the other aspects of the agreement between KJ and the league. There is a long way still to go between now and the March 6 vote. It might work out and pass. But it's no sure thing.

It's rumored that the Maloofs are contributing up to $70 million in this plan. But it remains to be seen if that number includes the $50 million AEG contribution that Stern the other day said the league considered to be on the owners' behalf. Which flew in the face of what KJ and the city was thinking. They were expecting $70-90 mil from the Maloofs plus the $50 mil from AEG. So there's a lot of details to remain to be known. Did KJ, who is as invested in this thing as any mayor could ever be, have to make consessions to the league and Maloofs to make up some of that ground? Will the city council approve, if so? Like I said, we'll know a lot more come March 6. Not now.

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And regardless of what happens there, as long as we get our arena plan approved by the city council... teams will come.

Doesn't matter what happens elsewhere, as long as Seattle gets their arena in place, there will be plenty of other NBA and NHL teams looking to move, looking for a new arena to play in. I'm not worried about that.

Build it and they will come. Maybe not the Kings, maybe not the Coyotes, but some other teams in the future.

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And regardless of what happens there, as long as we get our arena plan approved by the city council... teams will come.

Doesn't matter what happens elsewhere, as long as Seattle gets their arena in place, there will be plenty of other NBA and NHL teams looking to move, looking for a new arena to play in. I'm not worried about that.

Build it and they will come. Maybe not the Kings, maybe not the Coyotes, but some other teams in the future.


Exactly.

And on the other side of the coin, if we mess up this Hansen proposal and let the naysayers and city council let it slide by, good luck ever seeing an arena or teams in the city ever. So yeah, we need to focus on what we can control. Sure, until a team is available, nothing will happen. But without the deal in place, ready and waiting, NOTHING will ever happen.

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Just makes me think there's a reason my Hansen was so reluctant to come out with this publicly. Seattle is a huge threat to many of these cities trying to keep their teams. If the city council does its part, we are a lock for a team to relocate here.

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Yipee, now we just have to wait even longer for a team to return to Seattle.....

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I too wanted instant gratification, but I think we're just gonna have to be more patient than I was hoping for. For some reason I get the feeling that the prospect of both teams having to play in Key Arena for a couple years may be a sticking point with both leagues. They really hate that arena for some reason.

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If this deal hinged on the Kings, or the Kings were the intended centerpiece, we would have never announced like we did.

A) The risk would be huge in getting up Seattle fans' hopes in such an unlikely scenario.
B) By holding the press conference we put Sacramento's politicians on the spot. If anything, the announcement of our proposed arena helped Sacramento keep the Kings. There was a very clear destination for that team if a deal isn't/wasn't worked out, not a vague threat of leaving, but a city about to build the type of arena their team wants. 'No' was made definitely not an option by this city.


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Like I initially thought, NBA here next year was a stretch, fun to imagine though wasnt it?

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Chris Hansen released a statement saying that his plan is not and was not contingent on the Kings. He's thinking much bigger, grand scheme here. He didn't buy all that land just for a shot in the dark chance at one specific team. Fans obviously got excited and are impatient. But this is a much longer term deal. Everyone just relax.

If you're interested in the issue and cause in general. I can't recommend enough checking out http://www.SonicsCentral.com. It's sort of the Seahawks.Net for the Supes, and has been home to the Save Our Sonics people ever since the whole Clay Bennett thing began. Pretty cool that it's continued to run all this time. If you're ever curious as to what's going on, it's the place to check out. They're always ahead of the rest of the internet in terms of what's going on and what exactly is happening. If you read that site, everything else you read in the media looks misinformed. Great site.

The latest news centers around Bellevue entering the arena discussion. Not that I'd want it there over SODO by any means. As well as I would hate to see Hansen's plan ignored and Hansen out of the equation. But Bellevue making their interest known is a good thing. It puts pressure on Seattle to not blow this proposed deal. If Seattle goofs around and gets fussy, Bellevue could be ready to swoop in and steal all that future business. I'd take Bellevue as a site for an arena if it was impossible in SODO. But more than anything right now, they're best as a kick in the pants to Seattle to get it's crap together and not take Hansen's offer for granted.

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I'm not sure if it's similar to what the Hansen guy is doing, but I hear the city of Sacramento has to give at least 200+ million to fund the new stadium. That could be a potential deal-breaker there.


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I'm not sure if it's similar to what the Hansen guy is doing, but I hear the city of Sacramento has to give at least 200+ million to fund the new stadium. That could be a potential deal-breaker there.


SAC is really getting screwed in the deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they voted down the proposal. The NBA obviously doesn't want to be in Sacramento.


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I'm not sure if it's similar to what the Hansen guy is doing, but I hear the city of Sacramento has to give at least 200+ million to fund the new stadium. That could be a potential deal-breaker there.


SAC is really getting screwed in the deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they voted down the proposal. The NBA obviously doesn't want to be in Sacramento.


If they can't even get an NFL stadium in LA, then I doubt it'll ever happen either. It sucks that Sacramento might lose their team, but I guess this is how the NBA works now.

If it helps us get the Sonics back, then I'm all for it. I could care less about Sacramento.


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I'm not sure if it's similar to what the Hansen guy is doing, but I hear the city of Sacramento has to give at least 200+ million to fund the new stadium. That could be a potential deal-breaker there.


SAC is really getting screwed in the deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they voted down the proposal. The NBA obviously doesn't want to be in Sacramento.


If they can't even get an NFL stadium in LA, then I doubt it'll ever happen either. It sucks that Sacramento might lose their team, but I guess this is how the NBA works now.

If it helps us get the Sonics back, then I'm all for it. I could care less about Sacramento.


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with the arena vote in sacramento going through last night (i think they just need to square the parking lot one now...not overly sure) and the quebecois government putting aside money to refurbish the colisee pepsi for next season (quebec city's nhl arena) the time is now to act for that new seattle stadium. i know it takes time to put this shit together but it seriously needs to be figured out by april/may when the coyotes are done playing (hopefully one and done in the playoffs) to see where they are going to be playing next year. some dude is rumored to want to buy them and keep them locally but ill believe that when i see it. with the quebec arena getting fixed up and a new one being built, if they snake that nhl team that puts you guys behind the 8 ball even worse than with the sacramento kings situation IMO because they are pretty much the only team relocating anytime soon in the league (at least basketball has a few options)

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Question, Do the Milwaukee Bucks have any fans? I saw the highlights of Brandon Jennings going off on the sixers and there was literally like 6 fans in the crowd. Can we have them?

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im going to watch him play on sunday buddy, after i ask him to demand a trade to play with his boy demar ill see what the story is on the bucks and their fans...and yes you can have them, all the locals seem to care about are the packers and defending ryan braun's honor!


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New Orleans is the team I would want. With 2 lottery picks next year we could have out next Payton and Kemp right away and hopefully help us forget Durant.


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as long they didn't keep Eric Gordon, I'd be happy. I don't like undersized SG's, kind of a pet peeve of mine.

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New Orleans is the team I would want. With 2 lottery picks next year we could have out next Payton and Kemp right away and hopefully help us forget Durant.


David Stern would have to die before he lets the Hornets leave N.O

Seriously, the guy has put his foot down at every possible outcome that has someone buying the team and moving it.

Too bad Adam Silver is a snake as well because he has been groomed for the last 10 years to become the new dictator of the NBA.


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Man this event sure slowed down rather quickly. I need more news now!

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You guys want the Blazers? Its embarassing and painful watching them for the last month. Seems like every other game is the new "most embarassing game of the season". Blown out by 42 by the Knicks tonight. The Blazers didnt even care, didnt even try. 5 assists as a team yesterday in a blow out loss to indiana, made 20 field goals the whole game.

Terrible, horrible, pathetic. You guys may have them.

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You guys want the Blazers? Its embarassing and painful watching them for the last month. Seems like every other game is the new "most embarassing game of the season". Blown out by 42 by the Knicks tonight. The Blazers didnt even care, didnt even try. 5 assists as a team yesterday in a blow out loss to indiana, made 20 field goals the whole game.

Terrible, horrible, pathetic. You guys may have them.




Can you get Paul Allen to sign the team over to us? That would be fantastic. Thanks.

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Man this event sure slowed down rather quickly. I need more news now!


Well there is no team that can move in time for next season, we're officialy just chilling in the bushes like a freaking creeper!

Nawww you can keep your Blazers, J. We're gonna need your rivalry here in a few years.

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Man this event sure slowed down rather quickly. I need more news now!


Well there is no team that can move in time for next season, we're officialy just chilling in the bushes like a freaking creeper!

Nawww you can keep your Blazers, J. We're gonna need your rivalry here in a few years.


Yea, after todays moves im' feeling more optimistic about the future, so the offer is off the table! Now that McMillan is free though it would be pretty awesome if Seattle was able to get a team this offseason and make Mr. Sonic the first coach of the new sonics.

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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal will announce agreement of lease extension with #Hornets through 2024 this P.M. Details to come.


And there's that.

Uh...Milwaukee then?

Pretty weird to think about how badly our city got screwed and cities with half empty arenas get the red carpet treatment.


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Milwaukee, memphis, charlotte still possibilities

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if they move Memphis it will be back to Vancouver. stern is embarrassed with how things left there and its a dark spot on his legacy. the canadian economy has righted itself in regards to the position it was in during the grizzlies stay there and would work in today's NBA. Vancouver has a ton of money and a lot of people love basketball up there. every season Toronto plays a bunch of preseason there and its nuts. Steve Nash has brought a lot of exposure to the province as well with his success. players might not be so horny to play up there but it has its advantages as well. this is just my opinion though, so its not really worth much ha ha

Milwaukee and Charlotte should be your number 1a/1b priorities. Jordan is a cheapskate so he is the wild-card in all of this. if herb kohl passes away (born 1935) in the near future maybe his family does the Ralph Wilson thing and sells it, allowing relocation. who knows eh?


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The Blazers are pretty locked in to their lease. Besides, no thanks!

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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal will announce agreement of lease extension with #Hornets through 2024 this P.M. Details to come.


And there's that.

Uh...Milwaukee then?

Pretty weird to think about how badly our city got screwed and cities with half empty arenas get the red carpet treatment.


Wow...really? New Orleans can only support one team and we all know that thats the Saints..

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GET A HOLD OF CHRIS HANSEN SOMEHOW! TODAY!!!!

“It’s in the initial stages. We’ve handled this just like we’ve handled several other dozen requests. My situation in Memphis has not changed a lick. My preference will always be for somebody in Memphis to buy the team. There’s not any interest in Memphis. But we’ve always made it known that if somebody wants to buy the team, we’ll listen. If they’re real buyers we’ll probably be sellers. So far there hasn’t been anyone willing to buy the team under my terms and for my price.”


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... -too-well/

that vancouver comment i made the other day might just be full of ish :)

zbo, gasol, conley, mayo, gay they have a good team :th2thumbs:


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