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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:31 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    DJrmb wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:63 million...

    I think what Indy was referring to was the remaining 97 million after those guys you mentioned. Who is all that money going to? Cano must be a big chunk of that...


    Sportrac has the Ms salary at 140 mill, including 5 mill to Cano.

    Poster on lookout landing has a spreadsheet that has it 168 million (current 40 man roster). so a disconnect somewhere

    Edit: Sportrac doesnt have a lot of new player salaries listed

    Exactly ..TY
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:54 pm
  • Interesting rebuild...

    Shed big player contracts yet add salary, assets and draft capital.

    Might be genius. 2 years wait
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:04 am
  • flipping Cano was a thing of genius.....doubt many guys could have done that. As soon as hernandez, Encarcion and bruce are off the books it looks a lot better. By then we should have a new third baseman and a better farm and better decisions.
    the Ironic part is i think Bruce and Encarcion will bridge a gap because they can ball.

    Just dont tell me Hernandez has to be in the lineup. His form is shot and has lost all confidence....the fiveth pitcher has to be better than a trainwreck as well.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:54 am
  • Hopefully bruce and EE can be flipped by deadline for more assets.

    Would be great to move Seager on as well.. would probably have to pay salary but could maybe squeeze something in return from it as well
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:42 am
  • Yes Felix is done..I agree with Si on Bruce and EE flip..
    KS can go as well..I don't care much how that goes.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:54 pm
  • Spring training preview:

    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mar ... oria-ariz/

    Even if the Mariners are in the midst of a “step-back” season, the current conditions outside make it a little easier to think about warm Arizona days in the sun for spring training.

    With pitchers and catchers scheduled to report Monday to Peoria, Ariz., here are five things to watch this spring:

    What is Edwin Encarnacion’s Mariners future?
    As of these words being typed, Edwin Encarnacion is still a member of the Mariners. That could change before position players report Friday or perhaps some time during spring training.

    The expectation for people around baseball and for Encarnacion was that the Mariners would trade him after acquiring him in the offseason. Sources indicated the Mariners even made their intention of flipping Encarnacion known to him. It seemed like a decent plan. With the Twins, Rays and Astros all showing interest in signing former Mariners designated hitter Nelson Cruz, the Mariners figured they could trade Encarnacion to one of the two teams that were unable to sign Cruz. They knew they’d have to eat a sizable portion of the $25 million owed to Encarnacion in 2019, but it seemed worth it for a decent prospect or even a compensatory draft pick.


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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:06 pm
  • dieing for mariners news.......Call me a sucker if you want. I like the possibilities....
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:41 pm
  • Atradees wrote:dieing for mariners news.......Call me a sucker if you want. I like the possibilities....

    Mallex Smith hurt his shoulder throwing too much in the offseason, he’ll keep hitting but stop throwing for a bit.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:29 am
  • Well I hope thats not a sign of things to come with him.. we are pretty well stocked on paper with outfeilders. In recent times we have had some lame combos out there. I am real excited about the new bees.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:17 pm
  • I expect us to have a top 3 pick after this season.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:05 pm
  • Can’t believe this thread has five pages, but the offseason thread will be more exciting than the season thread.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:23 am
  • honestly, you guys are acting like we had a playoff team the last 5 years. As if trading Zunino, Paxton, Segura, Cano and Diaz sinks a great ship. Paxton was injured annually. Cano you know, Zunino was a black hole in the batters box. Im just saying...........Cruz will be missed. For many games he was the only offense. Its not hard for me to see us being just as competitive as we have been. The starting rotation was not steller last year but we have something to build on.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:36 pm
  • Atradees wrote:honestly, you guys are acting like we had a playoff team the last 5 years. As if trading Zunino, Paxton, Segura, Cano and Diaz sinks a great ship. Paxton was injured annually. Cano you know, Zunino was a black hole in the batters box. Im just saying...........Cruz will be missed. For many games he was the only offense. Its not hard for me to see us being just as competitive as we have been. The starting rotation was not steller last year but we have something to build on.

    I would like to see them finish the tear down by cutting, dumping, or trading Felix and Seager even if it means eating those contracts.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:18 pm
  • Seager slimed down to 130 lbs so now he will bat better. ??? Still some huge contracts......you would have to hope for some kind of rebounding to improve value. Though its Felix last year....it is 27 million. Maybe the MLB has started feel the effects of these guaranteed deals....
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:22 pm
  • Been watching some M's coverage this weekend. Lot of guys I never heard of, of course. :)

    According to Servais, YK is scheduled to start his first game Monday. Probably get an inning or so. Maybe 30-40 pitches. They say they're going to take it easy with the kid. Had some pretty impressive numbers in Japan, so we'll see.

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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:23 pm
  • Atradees wrote:Seager slimed down to 130 lbs so now he will bat better. ??? Still some huge contracts......you would have to hope for some kind of rebounding to improve value. Though its Felix last year....it is 27 million. Maybe the MLB has started feel the effects of these guaranteed deals....

    They were saying Kyle had a toe injury last season. But like you say, a bit of a prove it year. A lot of fans still like him, I guess. Would be nice to see him step up.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:50 pm
  • Theres no way he weighs 130 pounds. 230?

    Either way, if he can start hitting he will vastly improve his trade value by Summer. Which would be grear
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:19 pm
  • felix lasted a whole inning today...........like a 27 era just like his contract.

    Yusei was an awesome get. Kyle has looked good this spring. Long homered.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:37 pm
  • Anyone get to see the new Japanese kid today? How was he.. his delivery from what I"ve seen is just nasty.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:46 pm
  • Bobblehead wrote:Anyone get to see the new Japanese kid today? How was he.. his delivery from what I"ve seen is just nasty.

    Decent outing. 2 innings complete/29 pitches/1K/1BB/ a hit or two.

    1st inning was solid. Line out to right, K'd Votto :) , then covered 1st on a grounder to Healy. Gave up two runs, unearned per the scorer. Total 12 pitches IIRC.

    2d inning a bit rockier, but got out of it with no additional runs. Has an interesting wind up and delivery. Has the standard hesitation in there like most Japanese pitcher. Has a bit of a double leg kick, too. Hides the ball really well, drops it down behind his leg through most of his motion. FB was hitting low to mid 90's. Slider needs some work, not a lot of snap on it.

    Looked promising.

    Game will replay at 9:00 on ROOT.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:12 pm
  • sutz wrote:
    Bobblehead wrote:Anyone get to see the new Japanese kid today? How was he.. his delivery from what I"ve seen is just nasty.

    Decent outing. 2 innings complete/29 pitches/1K/1BB/ a hit or two.

    1st inning was solid. Line out to right, K'd Votto :) , then covered 1st on a grounder to Healy. Gave up two runs, unearned per the scorer. Total 12 pitches IIRC.

    2d inning a bit rockier, but got out of it with no additional runs. Has an interesting wind up and delivery. Has the standard hesitation in there like most Japanese pitcher. Has a bit of a double leg kick, too. Hides the ball really well, drops it down behind his leg through most of his motion. FB was hitting low to mid 90's. Slider needs some work, not a lot of snap on it.

    Looked promising.

    Game will replay at 9:00 on ROOT.



    Thanks.. don't get root and missed the radio broadcast.
    Just seen clips of him on FB but was really curious how his outing was..again thank you.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:54 am
  • Bobblehead wrote:
    sutz wrote:
    Bobblehead wrote:Anyone get to see the new Japanese kid today? How was he.. his delivery from what I"ve seen is just nasty.

    Decent outing. 2 innings complete/29 pitches/1K/1BB/ a hit or two.

    1st inning was solid. Line out to right, K'd Votto :) , then covered 1st on a grounder to Healy. Gave up two runs, unearned per the scorer. Total 12 pitches IIRC. On edit: Oops, my bad.

    2d inning a bit rockier, but got out of it with no additional runs. Has an interesting wind up and delivery. Has the standard hesitation in there like most Japanese pitcher. Has a bit of a double leg kick, too. Hides the ball really well, drops it down behind his leg through most of his motion. FB was hitting low to mid 90's. Slider needs some work, not a lot of snap on it.

    Looked promising.

    Game will replay at 9:00 on ROOT.



    Thanks.. don't get root and missed the radio broadcast.
    Just seen clips of him on FB but was really curious how his outing was..again thank you.

    Actually blew that recap. :oops:

    Two unearned were in the 2d inning. 1st was a 1-2-3 affair on 13 pitches. Sorry about that. :|
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:39 pm
  • I also missed the game (and the replay). I saw a gif of the hitch in his wind up. Did he continue that when guys were on base as well or did he shorten it up?
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:49 pm
  • DJrmb wrote:I also missed the game (and the replay). I saw a gif of the hitch in his wind up. Did he continue that when guys were on base as well or did he shorten it up?

    Don't really remember. He didn't throw a lot from the stretch.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:53 pm
  • Nice start for Gonzalez. 3 innings scoreless, 48 chucks/39 strikes/ 5K/1BB. All his pitches looking pretty good.

    :2thumbs:

    Looks like Marco is what passes for our ace this season. :)

    Seags had an opposite field double. I guess he had a single to left the other day. If he can learn to beat the shift, he'll have a decent season IMHO. At least it looks like he's working on it.

    Braden Bishop legged out a slow grounder to 3rd to pick up an RBI.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:28 pm
  • N. Rumbelow-pitcher..................hmmm. no Rum Below? I dont like the sound of that! Badum dum. chhhhh....
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:04 am
  • Who is this Long guy?He looks like he wants to make the team along with Lewis.
    I like seeing hungry players instead of vets just going throug the motions.
    On another note Felix..Man the fall from glory is hard to watch.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:52 am
  • IndyHawk wrote:Who is this Long guy?He looks like he wants to make the team along with Lewis.
    I like seeing hungry players instead of vets just going throug the motions.
    On another note Felix..Man the fall from glory is hard to watch.


    Went 3 strong innings with no walks and 4ks.

    Havent been much contact on his pitches yet.

    Middle relief would be great for him
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:33 am
  • Long is lookin good- the after thought trade with the Yankees; prospect for prospect. Young and hungry...lets see if it translates to the regular season. Sheffeild on board Felix some other role please.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:28 am
  • Atradees wrote:Long is lookin good- the after thought trade with the Yankees; prospect for prospect. Young and hungry...lets see if it translates to the regular season. Sheffeild on board Felix some other role please.

    I don't think it was an afterthought. Long has been on DiPoto's radar for a while.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mar ... attention/

    Sights set on the big leagues, Shed Long has the Mariners’ full attention

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    Jerry Dipoto has wanted to trade for Shed Long for quite some time. This offseason, he finally did -- and early impressions are affirming: "Shed Long can really hit."

    PEORIA, Ariz. — The “official” stats of spring training say otherwise, but Shed Long recorded two stinging doubles against the Oakland A’s in the Cactus League opener Feb. 21.

    The A’s attempted to play that day, when even the worst weather forecaster could’ve predicted the outcome: a canceled game after 1½ innings and discarded results. But even if the stats don’t show it, Long’s two plate appearances did happen against the A’s on that rainy, miserable day at Hohokam Stadium in Mesa, Ariz. The Mariners coaching staff, which is important in Long’s progression toward reaching the big leagues, still remembers — two doubles, which led to a run and an RBI.


    Officially, Long is now hitting .300 (3 for 10) with a .462 on-base percentage, a homer, two walks, a hit by pitch and four RBI, a stolen base. A RBI single in two at-bats Thursday raised his average. But if you add the stats from the canceled game, he’s got a .416 batting average, two doubles, a homer and five RBI with an on-base percentage over .500.


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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:25 pm
  • Shed Long, Domingo Santana, Kyle Lewis all looking great. Im very excited about their futures among others.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:13 pm
  • Don't leave out Jake Fraley, he's looking like a total stud! He's hitting .417 ATM and he's done that over 7 games (tied for most games anyone's played so far). Maybe his .347 avg, 415 obp, and 962 ops last season in the minors wasn't just a fluke...
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:25 pm
  • There are possibilities. How will it all shake out? Will the large contracts take precedence?
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:21 pm
  • Fraley, Santana and Bruce all hitting well......
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:06 pm
  • Countdown to opening day: 2019 Mariners roster projection

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    PEORIA, Ariz. — In just over a week, March 14 to be exact, the Mariners will board a plane for Japan to open the 2019 season with the Oakland A’s — a week earlier than everyone else.

    For fans starved for something more than meaningless spring training results, the two-game set in the Tokyo Dome offers a brief preview before the regular season truly gets going into full swing March 28.


    The Mariners will take at least 30 players to Japan on the trip, which includes two exhibition games against the Yomiuri Giants. But before that first pitch against the A’s on March 20, the Mariners will have to whittle down to a 28-man roster. Both teams get three extra players for the two games to help offset having to start the season so early.

    When the Mariners return from Japan, they will have six days and two exhibition games against the Padres at T-Mobile Park to decide on a final roster, trimming it down from 28 to 25 for the home opener against the Red Sox on Thursday, March 28.


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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:19 pm
  • Hernandez just needs to go home. He is terrible. Maybe he has substance abuse problems. its time for Justice. Sheffield.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:05 pm
  • Atradees wrote:Hernandez just needs to go home. He is terrible. Maybe he has substance abuse problems. its time for Justice. Sheffield.


    Completely agree. Sheffield is ready. Let's just cut to the chase, release Felix and proceed with the future. Felix is long done and has zero trade value and it's a waste of time having him in the pen. They're going to be eating the $27 mil either way so why prolong this anymore? He's given up 13 earned runs and 13 hits in 7 1/3 innings this spring-it ain't getting any better next month.

    And they know he's going to struggle badly too yet are giving him this rotation spot out of respect, the same way they wasted a roster spot with Ichiro the beginning of last year and Griffey's ugly final shortened season.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:51 pm
  • Felix still thinks he’s a power pitcher when his fastball tops at 88mph.

    Not enough mph difference between his fastball and his change up.

    Chuck and Buck were talking about how his fastball was getting hammered at an alarming rate the other day.

    Felix needs to realize he’s not 25 and his fastball that he used to throw by hitters is now batting practice due to lost velocity.
    Stop throwing it on a regular basis.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:17 am
  • He is done and a waste of a spot..
    I don't hear of him of doing anything like Justin V or Clay K
    when they also started losing FB speed..
    You need to admit and adjust..Felix just whines about
    not being the opening day starter and keeps doing the
    same thing.I can't stand the guy too much now.
    JS is showing a lot more at this stage and deserves a
    shot..I suspect he will after 16 days in the minors to keep
    him another year.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:29 pm
  • Atradees wrote:Hernandez just needs to go home. He is terrible. Maybe he has substance abuse problems. its time for Justice. Sheffield.


    Substance abuse?

    Kinell did that come from?
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:02 pm
  • South of Heaven, apparently!
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:12 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Atradees wrote:Hernandez just needs to go home. He is terrible. Maybe he has substance abuse problems. its time for Justice. Sheffield.


    Substance abuse?

    Kinell did that come from?

    A couple seasons ago someone who worked in a club
    said Felix loved his booze..
    I can't remember the name but maybe that is the substance?
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:31 pm
  • The real question is will there be a Kings Court this year? I sure hope not but as long as Felix is selling tickets he's gonna pitch.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:23 pm
  • getnasty wrote:The real question is will there be a Kings Court this year? I sure hope not but as long as Felix is selling tickets he's gonna pitch.



    Hes #5 in the rotation this year. I'd be surprised if he starts 15 games this season.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:33 pm
  • I doubt there will be a Kings Court this season. But if there were a sports franchise to do it, the Mariners would be it. Like Ichiro playing in Japan is typical Mariners.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:39 pm
  • Hawk-Lock wrote:I doubt there will be a Kings Court this season. But if there were a sports franchise to do it, the Mariners would be it. Like Ichiro playing in Japan is typical Mariners.


    Gordie Howe played for the Red Wings in his 40s... (and 80 games for the Whalers in his 50s). The Mariners can spare a couple games for the greatest Japanese player to play in the MLB to get a couple ABs in Japan..

    plus, not a bad recruiting tool.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:07 pm
  • Watch him pitch. Thats were that came from. His form is shot.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:35 pm
  • Atradees wrote:Watch him pitch. Thats were that came from. His form is shot.



    Couldn't be age and injury...
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:59 pm
  • He's been at it for a long time. I feel bad for the guy because he ate up innings for the M's when they weren't even close to competitive. Truly dominating stuff. Although, where some players have learned to adjust to decreasing velocity, he just seems to try throwing it like he's still throwing in the upper 90's. His age and injuries have definitely caught up with him in my opinion.
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Re: Mariners 2018/19 offseason thread...
Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:39 am
  • One of the best pitchers or our generation, period. But he has a ridiculous amount of innings on that arm. It's unfortunate that he seems to still think he has it, let alone being mad about not starting in the opener. But, I have nothing but great memories of the King, he was an unreal talent for a lot of years. I was at the perfect game too, I'll never forget that day.
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